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Social Security survivor benefits question - Do delayed retirement credits apply if spouse dies shortly after filing?

My husband recently filed for his Social Security retirement at age 67 (his full retirement age). His monthly benefit is about $2,700. I'm currently 65 and plan to file for my own retirement benefits when I reach my FRA at 67, my benefit would be around $2,100. Here's where things got complicated - my husband suffered a massive stroke just three weeks after filing for benefits. His doctors aren't optimistic about his recovery. I'm trying to understand what happens with survivor benefits if the worst happens. I know I can receive survivor benefits equal to what my husband was receiving, but here's my question: Since he had already reached his FRA but died shortly after filing, would my survivor benefit be calculated based on just his $2,700 FRA amount? Or would it include the delayed retirement credits he would have earned if he had waited until age 69 (which was our original plan before his health declined)? I've read conflicting information online about this. Some sources say survivor benefits are based only on what the deceased was actually receiving, while others mention something about SSA calculating what the person would have received with delayed credits in certain circumstances. Any insight from those who've dealt with this specific situation would be really appreciated. This is all so overwhelming to figure out while dealing with everything else.

Connor Richards

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I'm so sorry about your husband's condition. To answer your question directly: your survivor benefit would be based on what your husband was actually receiving when he passed away ($2,700), not what he might have received had he delayed until 69. Since he had already filed for benefits, the delayed retirement credits don't apply. If he had not yet filed for benefits and passed away, then the SSA would have calculated his benefit with delayed credits up to the date of death. But once someone has filed, that locks in their benefit amount for survivor benefit calculations. When you reach your FRA, you should speak with SSA about your options. You might want to take your own benefit now and switch to the survivor benefit later, or vice versa, depending on the amounts.

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Zoe Wang

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Thank you for your clear explanation. That makes sense, even though it's disappointing news. I was hoping there might be some provision since he had just filed, but I understand how the rules work now. Do you know if there's any kind of exception for someone who dies very shortly after filing? Like within the first month?

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Grace Durand

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This happened to my sister last year!!! My brother-in-law filed for SS and then died 6 weeks later from a heart attack. She got widow benefits but ONLY the amount he was actually getting not what he WOULD HAVE got if he waited longer. SSA told her once someone files that amount is LOCKED IN for survivors too. It's really not fair because they had planned to wait longer but he got sick suddenly so filed earlier. The system doesn't care about individual circumstances!

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Zoe Wang

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I'm sorry about your brother-in-law. Thank you for sharing your sister's experience - it helps to hear from someone who's been through something similar. You're right that it doesn't seem fair, especially when serious illness forces a change in plans. I appreciate the confirmation about how the system works.

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Steven Adams

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my condolences but theres something nobody mentioned yet - check if ur husbands been getting SS for less than 12 months, you can withdraw his application completely!! its called a 'withdrawal of application' and its on form SSA-521, he gets to repay whatever benefits he received and its like he never applied at all! then survivor benefits would include the delayed credits up to his death

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Zoe Wang

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Wait, this is really important information! He only received one payment so far. I had no idea this was even possible. If we withdraw his application, would this really allow me to get the survivor benefits with the delayed credits calculated? This could make a significant difference in my future income. I'll look into the SSA-521 form. Thank you!

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Alice Fleming

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This is exactly right. If your husband has been receiving benefits for less than 12 months, you can file Form SSA-521 (Request for Withdrawal of Application) and repay all benefits received so far. In your situation, that would make it as if he never filed for benefits, and then the survivor benefits would be calculated with delayed retirement credits up to the date of his passing. Just to be clear on the math: If your husband's FRA benefit is $2,700, and he lived two years past his FRA without filing (to age 69), that would have been an 8% increase per year for a total of 16% more. So instead of $2,700, the survivor benefit would be about $3,132 per month. This is definitely worth considering given the significant difference in monthly benefits over your lifetime.

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Zoe Wang

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Thank you for confirming and explaining the math! The difference between $2,700 and $3,132 per month is substantial over time. I need to make this withdrawal request quickly before more time passes. Do you know if his current medical condition affects his ability to sign the withdrawal form? He's conscious but has limited capacity right now.

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Hassan Khoury

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I had to deal with this EXACT situation when my mom passed. Try calling SSA to explain but good luck actually reaching someone! I spent WEEKS trying to get through on their 800 number and kept getting disconnected or told the wait time was 2+ hours. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to a person in under 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Once I reached someone, they explained all my options including the withdrawal option others mentioned. Since this is time-sensitive with the 12-month window, I wouldn't waste time trying to get through the normal SSA channels.

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Zoe Wang

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Thank you for the recommendation. You're right about the urgency - I tried calling SSA yesterday and couldn't get through after waiting for over an hour. I'll check out that service since I need to get this resolved quickly before the window of opportunity closes. It's frustrating that reaching SSA has to be so difficult during such a stressful time.

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Victoria Stark

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Everybody saying withdraw the application is assuming her husband can consent to this. If he's medically incapacitated and she doesn't have power of attorney for him already the SSA probably won't let her withdraw HIS application. Maybe someone with experience with this specific situation can chime in?

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Zoe Wang

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That's a really important point I hadn't fully considered. I do have medical power of attorney for him, but I'm not sure if that extends to Social Security matters. I need to find out if that's sufficient or if I need something else. Does anyone know if medical POA is enough for this situation?

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Alice Fleming

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To address the power of attorney question: You'll need a specific type of POA for Social Security matters. A medical POA usually doesn't cover financial/governmental matters. However, there's another option if your husband can't sign the withdrawal form - you can apply to be his representative payee. In emergency situations like this, SSA can sometimes expedite the process. Bring your medical POA documents with you to the SSA office along with documentation from his doctor about his condition. They may be able to process the withdrawal request if you're appointed as his representative payee. I strongly recommend going to your local SSA office in person rather than just calling for this complex situation. Bring all medical documentation and be prepared to explain the time-sensitive nature of the situation.

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Zoe Wang

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Thank you for this detailed advice. I've made an appointment at our local SSA office for next week (earliest they had). I'll bring all his medical documentation and our existing POA paperwork. I'll also ask his doctor to provide something explaining his current incapacity. I really appreciate everyone's help navigating this complicated situation during such a difficult time.

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Benjamin Kim

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Jus wanted to say im sorry about ur husband and hope he recovers. My aunt was in same boat but she didnt know about the 12 month withdrawal thing until it was too late... definatly get on this quick b4 u miss the window. The differance in benifits adds up to alot of $$$ over time.

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Grace Durand

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One more thing - if you withdraw his application make SURE you understand you have to repay ALL the money he already got from SS!!! They won't process the withdrawal until every penny is paid back. If he got a big retroactive payment this could be thousands you need to have ready!

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Connor Richards

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This is an important point. The withdrawal requires repaying all benefits received, but in this case it sounds like the husband only received one month's payment so far. That would be the $2,700 that would need to be repaid. Given that the potential increase to survivor benefits would be about $432 per month ($3,132 - $2,700), the break-even point would be reached in about 6-7 months of receiving the higher survivor benefit. After that point, it becomes financially advantageous.

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