Can Social Security survivors benefits increase after FRA if I wait until 70 to claim?
I'm currently 62 and lost my husband last year. I'm trying to figure out the best strategy for claiming survivors benefits. I know my own retirement benefits increase if I wait until 70, but I'm confused about survivors benefits. Do survivor's benefits also grow if I wait past my full retirement age (66 and 10 months) to claim them? Or do they max out at my FRA? My financial advisor says one thing but the SSA rep I spoke with seemed to say something different. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation?
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Mei Lin
Survivor benefits do NOT grow after your FRA. Unlike your own retirement benefits which increase 8% per year until 70, survivor benefits reach their maximum at your full retirement age. So there's absolutely no advantage to waiting past your FRA to claim survivor benefits. The confusion probably comes because these are two different benefits with different rules. Your own retirement benefits have delayed retirement credits until 70, but survivor benefits don't. If your husband's benefit amount is higher than your own retirement benefit would be, you might want to consider taking survivors at FRA and then switching to your own at 70 (assuming your own benefit with delayed credits would then be higher).
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Jamal Wilson
•Thank you for the clear explanation! So there's no benefit to waiting past my FRA for survivor benefits. That makes my decision easier. Do you know if I could take reduced survivor benefits now at 62 and then switch to my own retirement at 70? My own benefit at 70 would definitely be higher than the survivor benefit.
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Liam Fitzgerald
my condolences on ur loss. i think ur financial advisor is wrong, my mom went thru this last year. SS survivor benefits max out at ur FRA. waiting til 70 doesnt increase them AT ALL!!!
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Jamal Wilson
•I'm so sorry about your mom. Thanks for sharing her experience - it helps to hear from someone who's been through it. It's frustrating that there's so much conflicting information out there.
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GalacticGuru
You have options here. Since you're 62, you could: 1. Take reduced survivor benefits now (about 71.5% of the full amount) and let your own retirement grow until 70. 2. Take reduced retirement benefits now and switch to full survivor benefits at your FRA. The best choice depends on which benefit will ultimately be higher. If your own benefit at 70 would be significantly higher than the survivor benefit, option 1 might be better. Have you checked your estimated benefit amounts on the MySocialSecurity portal?
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Amara Nnamani
•This is correct advice. Just to add a key detail - survivor benefits reach their maximum at YOUR full retirement age, regardless of your husband's age when he passed. And if your husband already took reduced benefits before his FRA, your survivor benefit maximum would be limited by the RIB-LIM rule (basically you'd get what he was receiving or 82.5% of his PIA, whichever is higher). One strategy many widows don't know about: If you worked enough to qualify for your own retirement, taking REDUCED survivor benefits at 62 while letting your own benefit grow until 70 can be very advantageous if your own benefit would be substantial.
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Giovanni Mancini
I waited to claim my husbands survivors benefit til i was at FRA and got the full amount. Tried to claim at 68 thinking it would be more and the lady at social security laughed at me! Said I shoulda claimed at FRA! So dont make my mistake... they definitely dont increase after FRA!
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•It's crazy how confusing they make this system!!! Same thing happened to my aunt - she waited until 69 to claim survivor's benefits thinking they'd be higher (like regular SS) and lost out on like 2 years of payments for NOTHING. The SSA should be clearer about this stuff!!
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Dylan Cooper
I had the EXACT same question when my husband passed. Spent WEEKS trying to get someone at Social Security on the phone who could give me a straight answer. Always disconnected after waiting for hours. Finally I used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an SSA agent in about 15 minutes. The agent confirmed survivor benefits max out at FRA - waiting longer doesn't increase them. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The strategy they recommended was taking reduced survivor benefits at 62 and switching to my own retirement at 70, since my own benefit would be higher by then.
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Jamal Wilson
•Thanks for the suggestion! I've been trying to get through to SSA for days. I'll check out that service - sounds a lot better than waiting on hold for hours only to get disconnected.
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GalacticGuru
•Just a note of caution - make sure you're certain about which benefit will be higher in the long run before choosing a strategy. Sometimes survivor benefits, especially if your spouse was a high earner, can be higher than your own retirement benefit even with delayed retirement credits.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
Ugh why is SS stuff so confusing?? My grandma got told different things by different SS reps about this exact issue! But from what I understand survivor benefits are different from retirement - they DON'T grow after FRA. Also, did u know if ur working while collecting survivor benefits, there's an earnings limit until u reach FRA? They dont tell u these things!
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Mei Lin
•You're right about the earnings limit. For 2024, if you're under FRA and collect any Social Security benefit (including survivors), you lose $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above $21,240. The year you reach FRA, it's $1 for every $3 above $56,520, but only counting earnings before the month you reach FRA. After FRA, there's no earnings limit at all.
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Giovanni Mancini
Call SSA and ask for a benefits comparrison calculation. They can run the numbers for all your options. Thats wat i did. and YES survivor benefits max out at FRA dont wait longer you'll just loose money!!!!
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Jamal Wilson
•Good suggestion! I'll definitely ask for that calculation. I need to see the actual numbers for my situation to make the best decision.
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