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Jamal Wilson

Can Social Security survivors benefits increase after FRA if I wait until 70 to claim?

I'm currently 62 and lost my husband last year. I'm trying to figure out the best strategy for claiming survivors benefits. I know my own retirement benefits increase if I wait until 70, but I'm confused about survivors benefits. Do survivor's benefits also grow if I wait past my full retirement age (66 and 10 months) to claim them? Or do they max out at my FRA? My financial advisor says one thing but the SSA rep I spoke with seemed to say something different. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation?

Mei Lin

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Survivor benefits do NOT grow after your FRA. Unlike your own retirement benefits which increase 8% per year until 70, survivor benefits reach their maximum at your full retirement age. So there's absolutely no advantage to waiting past your FRA to claim survivor benefits. The confusion probably comes because these are two different benefits with different rules. Your own retirement benefits have delayed retirement credits until 70, but survivor benefits don't. If your husband's benefit amount is higher than your own retirement benefit would be, you might want to consider taking survivors at FRA and then switching to your own at 70 (assuming your own benefit with delayed credits would then be higher).

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Jamal Wilson

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Thank you for the clear explanation! So there's no benefit to waiting past my FRA for survivor benefits. That makes my decision easier. Do you know if I could take reduced survivor benefits now at 62 and then switch to my own retirement at 70? My own benefit at 70 would definitely be higher than the survivor benefit.

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my condolences on ur loss. i think ur financial advisor is wrong, my mom went thru this last year. SS survivor benefits max out at ur FRA. waiting til 70 doesnt increase them AT ALL!!!

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Jamal Wilson

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I'm so sorry about your mom. Thanks for sharing her experience - it helps to hear from someone who's been through it. It's frustrating that there's so much conflicting information out there.

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GalacticGuru

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You have options here. Since you're 62, you could: 1. Take reduced survivor benefits now (about 71.5% of the full amount) and let your own retirement grow until 70. 2. Take reduced retirement benefits now and switch to full survivor benefits at your FRA. The best choice depends on which benefit will ultimately be higher. If your own benefit at 70 would be significantly higher than the survivor benefit, option 1 might be better. Have you checked your estimated benefit amounts on the MySocialSecurity portal?

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Amara Nnamani

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This is correct advice. Just to add a key detail - survivor benefits reach their maximum at YOUR full retirement age, regardless of your husband's age when he passed. And if your husband already took reduced benefits before his FRA, your survivor benefit maximum would be limited by the RIB-LIM rule (basically you'd get what he was receiving or 82.5% of his PIA, whichever is higher). One strategy many widows don't know about: If you worked enough to qualify for your own retirement, taking REDUCED survivor benefits at 62 while letting your own benefit grow until 70 can be very advantageous if your own benefit would be substantial.

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I waited to claim my husbands survivors benefit til i was at FRA and got the full amount. Tried to claim at 68 thinking it would be more and the lady at social security laughed at me! Said I shoulda claimed at FRA! So dont make my mistake... they definitely dont increase after FRA!

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It's crazy how confusing they make this system!!! Same thing happened to my aunt - she waited until 69 to claim survivor's benefits thinking they'd be higher (like regular SS) and lost out on like 2 years of payments for NOTHING. The SSA should be clearer about this stuff!!

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Dylan Cooper

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I had the EXACT same question when my husband passed. Spent WEEKS trying to get someone at Social Security on the phone who could give me a straight answer. Always disconnected after waiting for hours. Finally I used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an SSA agent in about 15 minutes. The agent confirmed survivor benefits max out at FRA - waiting longer doesn't increase them. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The strategy they recommended was taking reduced survivor benefits at 62 and switching to my own retirement at 70, since my own benefit would be higher by then.

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Jamal Wilson

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Thanks for the suggestion! I've been trying to get through to SSA for days. I'll check out that service - sounds a lot better than waiting on hold for hours only to get disconnected.

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GalacticGuru

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Just a note of caution - make sure you're certain about which benefit will be higher in the long run before choosing a strategy. Sometimes survivor benefits, especially if your spouse was a high earner, can be higher than your own retirement benefit even with delayed retirement credits.

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Ugh why is SS stuff so confusing?? My grandma got told different things by different SS reps about this exact issue! But from what I understand survivor benefits are different from retirement - they DON'T grow after FRA. Also, did u know if ur working while collecting survivor benefits, there's an earnings limit until u reach FRA? They dont tell u these things!

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Mei Lin

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You're right about the earnings limit. For 2024, if you're under FRA and collect any Social Security benefit (including survivors), you lose $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above $21,240. The year you reach FRA, it's $1 for every $3 above $56,520, but only counting earnings before the month you reach FRA. After FRA, there's no earnings limit at all.

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Call SSA and ask for a benefits comparrison calculation. They can run the numbers for all your options. Thats wat i did. and YES survivor benefits max out at FRA dont wait longer you'll just loose money!!!!

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Jamal Wilson

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Good suggestion! I'll definitely ask for that calculation. I need to see the actual numbers for my situation to make the best decision.

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Ella Cofer

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I'm really sorry for your loss, Jamal. This is such a common source of confusion, and unfortunately even SSA reps sometimes give conflicting information. To be absolutely clear: survivor benefits do NOT increase after your full retirement age. They max out at your FRA (66 and 10 months in your case). This is completely different from your own retirement benefits, which do continue to grow 8% per year until age 70. Given that you're 62 now, you have two main strategies to consider: 1. Take reduced survivor benefits now (about 71.5% of full amount) and switch to your own retirement at 70 if it would be higher 2. Take your own reduced retirement now and switch to full survivor benefits at your FRA The key is figuring out which benefit will ultimately be higher. If your own benefit at 70 with delayed retirement credits would exceed the survivor benefit, option 1 is usually better. You can get your benefit estimates on ssa.gov/myaccount or by calling for that comparison calculation Giovanni mentioned. Don't let your financial advisor convince you to wait past FRA for survivor benefits - you'd just be leaving money on the table!

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Elijah Brown

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Jamal. Going through this myself right now and it's overwhelming dealing with both grief and these confusing benefit rules. Just wanted to confirm what others have said - survivor benefits definitely don't grow past FRA. I learned this the hard way when I called SSA three times and got three different answers! Finally got connected to someone who knew what they were talking about and they were very clear: survivor benefits max out at YOUR full retirement age, period. The strategy that makes sense for most people in our situation is exactly what Ella mentioned - take the reduced survivor benefits now at 62 and let your own retirement benefit grow until 70. That way you're getting some income now while maximizing your future benefit if your own would be higher. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier - make sure to factor in cost of living adjustments (COLAs) when you're comparing future benefits. The survivor benefit will get COLAs each year even if you take it early, which can add up over time. Hang in there - once you get through to the right person at SSA and get your actual numbers, the decision becomes much clearer.

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Salim Nasir

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Thank you so much, Elijah. It really helps to connect with someone going through the same situation. You're absolutely right about how overwhelming it is to deal with all this while grieving. That's a great point about the COLAs - I hadn't thought about how those would apply to the survivor benefit over time. It sounds like taking the reduced survivor benefit at 62 and switching to my own at 70 is probably the way to go, especially since I've been working and have a decent earnings record. I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here. It's frustrating that we have to become experts on these rules during such a difficult time, but this community has been incredibly helpful. I'm going to call SSA tomorrow and ask for that benefit comparison calculation to see the actual numbers for my situation.

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Aaliyah Reed

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Jamal. This is definitely one of the most confusing aspects of Social Security, and you're getting good advice here from the community. Just to reinforce what everyone is saying - survivor benefits absolutely do NOT increase after your FRA. I work in elder law and see this confusion constantly. Your financial advisor is incorrect on this point. Here's what I always tell clients in your situation: Think of it as two separate "buckets" of benefits with different rules. Your own retirement benefit bucket has delayed retirement credits until 70, but the survivor benefit bucket maxes out at your FRA - no exceptions. Given that you're 62, the "claim survivor benefits now, switch to your own at 70" strategy often makes the most sense if your own benefit would be substantially higher. You'd get reduced survivor benefits (about 71.5% of full amount) for 8 years, then switch to your maximized retirement benefit. One additional tip: When you call SSA for that comparison calculation, specifically ask them to show you the crossover point - the age where your own delayed retirement benefit would exceed the survivor benefit. This helps you see exactly when switching would pay off. The SSA Publication 05-10084 "Survivors Benefits" has this info in writing if you want official documentation to show your financial advisor.

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Ava Martinez

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Thank you so much for the professional perspective, Aaliyah! That "two buckets" analogy really helps clarify things. I'm definitely going to ask for that crossover point calculation when I call SSA - that's exactly the kind of specific information I need to make this decision confidently. I really appreciate you mentioning the SSA publication number too. Having something official in writing will be helpful when I talk to my financial advisor about why waiting past FRA for survivor benefits doesn't make sense. It's concerning that they gave me incorrect information about something this important. This whole thread has been incredibly valuable. It's amazing how much clearer everything becomes when you get consistent information from people who actually understand these rules. Thank you all for taking the time to help someone navigate this difficult situation.

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Natasha Petrov

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Jamal. This is such a difficult time to have to navigate these complex benefit decisions. Everyone here is absolutely correct - survivor benefits do NOT increase after your full retirement age. This is one of the most misunderstood aspects of Social Security, and unfortunately even some financial advisors get it wrong. I went through this exact situation three years ago when I lost my wife. Like you, I got conflicting advice and it was incredibly frustrating. What finally helped me was getting the actual numbers from SSA for my specific situation. Here's what I learned: Since you're 62, you can take reduced survivor benefits now (about 71.5% of the full amount) and then switch to your own retirement benefit at 70 if yours would be higher with the delayed retirement credits. This way you're not leaving money on the table while your own benefit grows. The key is getting SSA to run those comparison calculations for you. When you call, ask them to show you both scenarios with actual dollar amounts and the "break-even" point where switching would benefit you long-term. Also, don't feel bad about your financial advisor being wrong on this - it's a very specific rule that even some professionals miss. The important thing is you're getting the right information now before making any irreversible decisions. Take care of yourself during this difficult time, and don't hesitate to ask more questions here. This community really knows their stuff when it comes to Social Security.

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Thank you so much, Natasha. I'm really grateful for everyone sharing their personal experiences - it means a lot to know I'm not alone in dealing with this confusion during such a difficult time. Your point about getting the actual dollar amounts is exactly what I need to focus on. I've been going in circles with general advice, but seeing the real numbers for my specific situation will make the decision much clearer. I'm going to call SSA first thing tomorrow and ask for those comparison calculations you mentioned. It's reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same process and came out the other side with a good understanding of their options.

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