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I'm still in shock over losing my son suddenly last month. He had two young children (ages 8 and 11) who are now living with their mother, my ex-daughter-in-law. My son was their primary financial support and I promised to help figure out their Social Security options. I know children can get survivor benefits, but I'm completely lost on how to start this process. Do I need to go to a local office? What documents will they need? Is there an online application? Does my ex-daughter-in-law need to be the one to apply since she has custody? My son had been working steadily for about 15 years paying into Social Security. Any guidance would be so appreciated during this difficult time.
I'm turning 62 in just a few months and trying to figure out my Social Security options. My ex-husband currently receives SSDI (he's been on disability for about 5 years now). We were married for 15 years before divorcing in 2014. I never remarried. I know you can claim ex-spouse retirement benefits, but does this apply to SSDI too? Am I eligible to receive any benefits based on his disability record when I turn 62? My own work history is spotty because I stayed home with our kids for several years. Any advice would be really appreciated!
Just wanted to add one more tip from my experience - when you do apply, make sure to ask them to calculate BOTH your own benefit amount AND the ex-spouse benefit amount in writing. I applied last year and they initially only told me about my own benefit (which was lower). It wasn't until I specifically asked about ex-spouse benefits that they realized I qualified for a higher amount. Also, if you have any periods where you didn't work or had very low earnings, those zero years really hurt your own benefit calculation, so the ex-spouse benefit might be significantly better for you. Don't let them rush you through the application - make sure they're checking everything!
I'm in a very similar situation - my ex-husband has been on SSDI for about 3 years and I'm approaching 62 next year. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! One thing I wanted to add based on my research is that you should also consider whether waiting until your full retirement age (probably 66 or 67) would be worth it financially. I know everyone's situation is different, but I've been running some calculations and for me, waiting those extra 4-5 years to get the full 50% instead of the reduced amount at 62 might actually be better in the long run, especially if I can keep working part-time. The break-even point seems to be around age 78-80 depending on the benefit amounts. Of course, that assumes you can afford to wait and don't need the income right away. I'm still torn about what to do myself! Has anyone else wrestled with the decision of taking reduced benefits early versus waiting for the full amount?
That's such a great point about considering the long-term financial impact! I've been so focused on just getting some income at 62 that I hadn't really done the math on waiting versus taking reduced benefits early. The break-even analysis you mentioned is really smart - around age 78-80 makes sense when you factor in the permanent reduction for early filing. In my case, I'm leaning toward taking the benefits at 62 mainly because my own work record is so spotty from staying home with kids, and I'm not sure I can realistically keep working full-time for another 4-5 years. But you're absolutely right that everyone's situation is different. Do you have a good resource for running those break-even calculations, or did you just do the math yourself? I'd love to crunch some numbers before I make my final decision!
For break-even calculations, I used a combination of the SSA's online calculator at ssa.gov and a simple spreadsheet. The SSA calculator gives you estimated benefits at different claiming ages, then I just multiplied each monthly amount by 12 months and compared the cumulative totals over time. There are also some good online calculators - I found one at AARP's website that was pretty user-friendly. The key inputs are your estimated benefit at 62 vs full retirement age, then you calculate when the total lifetime benefits cross over. In your situation with the spotty work history, claiming at 62 might make even more sense since you're likely looking at ex-spouse benefits either way, and those don't increase much with delayed filing compared to your own benefits. Plus there's always the "bird in the hand" factor - you never know what might happen with Social Security policy changes down the road!
I've been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis and can no longer continue my teaching career. I'm in the middle of applying for SSDI with some help from my employer's disability insurance company, but I'm worried about healthcare coverage for my whole family. We have three children (ages 6, 8, and 10) and my husband runs his own small business without group health insurance. My biggest concern isn't even the SSDI payment amount - it's getting Medicare coverage that works for my condition. The current marketplace plans are terrible for my medication needs. If I get approved for SSDI and eventually Medicare, would my husband and our three kids also qualify for Medicare coverage? Or would they get any kind of SSDI family/dependent benefits? I'm concerned that my husband's income might disqualify them, even though it's not enough to cover good private insurance for a family of five. Does anyone know if there are income limits that would affect my family's eligibility? I feel like we're in this weird gap where we make too much for some programs but not enough to afford decent private insurance. Any guidance from people who've navigated this with a family would be so appreciated!
To summarize the accurate information shared above: 1. Your children would qualify for auxiliary benefits based on your SSDI record once you're approved. These benefits are typically 50% of your Primary Insurance Amount per child, but subject to a family maximum limit. 2. Your husband would only qualify for spousal benefits if caring for a child under 16 or if he's retirement age. 3. Medicare will only cover you as the disabled individual after the 24-month waiting period following SSDI approval. It doesn't extend to family members. 4. For healthcare coverage for your children, look into: - Your state's CHIP/Children's Medicaid program (income limits are more generous for children) - Marketplace plans with premium tax credits based on your modified adjusted gross income - Continuation of any current coverage you have 5. For your husband, options include: - Self-employed health insurance (which is tax-deductible) - Marketplace plans with possible subsidies - Exploring if he qualifies for any professional association group plans The most important thing now is focusing on your SSDI application. Make sure you have comprehensive medical documentation of your MS progression, limitations, and treatment history. Consider having an attorney review your application before submission, especially if the third-party company isn't SSDI-specialized.
Thank you so much for this clear summary! I'll definitely check into our state's CHIP program for the kids. And we'll start researching marketplace plans for my husband too. I appreciate the reminder about focusing on the SSDI application itself first - that's the foundation everything else depends on. I've been keeping a daily symptom journal and collecting all my medical records from the past 3 years to make sure we have strong documentation.
I'm going through something very similar with my husband's recent disability diagnosis. One thing I learned that might help - when you do get approved for SSDI, make sure to apply for your children's auxiliary benefits right away. Don't assume it's automatic. We had to specifically request it and provide birth certificates and other documentation for each child. Also, regarding healthcare for your husband - since he's self-employed, he might be able to deduct health insurance premiums as a business expense, which could make marketplace plans more affordable. We ended up finding a decent plan that way, though it's still not cheap. The waiting is the hardest part. Hang in there, and don't give up if you get denied initially. Most people do, but appeals often succeed with proper documentation. Your daily symptom journal is smart - that kind of detailed record really helps show the progression and impact of your condition.
I'm a travel nurse (age 62) trying to figure out if I should file for early Social Security retirement. About 60% of my income comes from non-taxable stipends (housing, meals, incidentals). I know the 2025 earnings limit for early retirement is $22,320, but I'm confused about how my stipends would factor in. If I earn $20,000 in regular taxable wages but also receive $30,000 in non-taxable stipends, would I be under the earnings limit? Since stipends aren't taxable income, do they even count toward the Social Security earnings test? I'm trying to decide if it makes financial sense to start collecting early SS benefits while continuing my travel nursing part-time. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation? The local SSA office gave me conflicting answers when I called.
One last thing to be aware of - if you go over the earnings limit, it's not a cliff where you lose all benefits. For every $2 you earn above the 2025 limit of $22,320, SSA will withhold $1 from your benefits. So even if you accidentally exceed the limit somewhat, you won't lose everything. Also, in the year you reach Full Retirement Age (FRA), the limit is much higher and the penalty is lower (only $1 withheld for every $3 over the limit). And once you hit your FRA, there's no earnings limit at all.
Thanks for explaining that! That makes me feel better about trying this approach. I'm going to apply for my retirement benefits next month and aim to keep my taxable wages under the limit. With the nursing shortage, I should have plenty of flexibility to pick assignments that will work with my new arrangement.
This is such a helpful discussion! I'm not a travel nurse but I'm in a similar situation where I have both taxable wages and some non-taxable reimbursements from my employer. Reading through all these responses, it sounds like the key is making sure your stipends are legitimate under IRS rules and that only your W-2 Box 5 wages count toward the earnings test. @CosmicCrusader - it might be worth getting that confirmation in writing from SSA like you mentioned. That way if there are any questions later, you have documentation of what you were told. Good luck with your decision!
Hey fellow SS recipients - got a question about SSDI and retirement accounts that's been driving me crazy. I've been on SSDI for about 3 years now (back injury from construction work that never fully healed). My financial situation is getting tight, and I'm considering withdrawing about $8,000 from my TSP account that I built up during my federal job before the construction gig. I know there's that substantial gainful activity (SGA) limit for SSDI - around $1,550/month for 2025 I think? But I'm confused whether a one-time TSP withdrawal counts toward this limit. Is it considered passive/unearned income? Or would SSA count it against my earnings limit and potentially suspend my benefits? I already know I'll get hit with taxes on the withdrawal, but that's better than letting my credit card debt keep growing. Anyone have experience with this? Don't want to accidentally mess up my SSDI benefits trying to stay afloat.
Thanks everyone for the helpful replies. Just to summarize what I've learned for anyone else in my situation: 1. TSP withdrawals will NOT count against SSDI's SGA limit (currently ~$1,550/month for 2025) 2. This is because TSP withdrawals are considered unearned/passive income 3. If I were on SSI instead of SSDI, it WOULD count (thankfully I'm not) 4. I'll still pay income tax + 10% early withdrawal penalty 5. A TSP loan might be better than a withdrawal in my situation 6. The withdrawal might affect Medicare premiums later via IRMAA This community is amazing - you've saved me so much stress!
Hey Camila - just wanted to add one more thing about TSP loans that might help with your decision. Since you're no longer a federal employee, you CAN still take a TSP loan if you haven't already taken one out. The loan limit is typically 50% of your vested balance or $50,000, whichever is less. The big advantage is you're essentially paying interest back to yourself (currently around 4.125% I think), and there's no tax hit or early withdrawal penalty. You just need to make sure you can handle the monthly payments - they're usually spread over 1-5 years. However, if you default on the loan, it becomes a taxable distribution with penalties. Given that you're on SSDI with limited income, make sure the payment amount works with your budget before going this route. But it could save you thousands compared to a straight withdrawal!
Amun-Ra Azra
My condolences on your loss. Dont forget that if youre helping financially with the grandkids, make sure to document everything in case you can claim them as dependents on your taxes. Might want to talk to a tax person about that situation.
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Gael Robinson
This is an important point about taxes. Generally, the custodial parent claims the children as dependents, but there are exceptions if you're providing significant financial support. However, be aware that once the children start receiving survivor benefits, those benefits may count as their income (though much of it is likely exempt from taxation at their ages and benefit amounts). The mother, as representative payee, will receive tax forms for the benefits. This gets complicated, so consulting with a tax professional is excellent advice.
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Benjamin Johnson
I'm so sorry for the loss of your son. As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to add that when your ex-daughter-in-law calls SSA, she should be prepared for potentially long hold times and have all the documents ready before making the call. From what I've read, it helps to call first thing in the morning (8am local time) when they open, as the lines tend to be less busy then. Also, I wanted to mention that the children's benefits will automatically stop when they turn 18, unless they're still in high school (then it continues until 19 or graduation, whichever comes first). If either child has a disability that began before age 22, they may be eligible for continued benefits as adults, but that would need to be evaluated separately. One more thing - the benefits are paid monthly, usually on the same day each month based on your son's birth date. The first payment might take 1-2 months to arrive after approval, but subsequent payments should be regular. Wishing you and your family strength during this difficult time.
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