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Social Security earnings limit when switching from survivor to retirement benefits - when does it end?

I've been receiving my deceased husband's survivor benefits since I turned 60 (I'm 67 now, born in 1958). I'm still working part-time at a local gallery making about $28,000 annually. I'm planning to switch from survivor benefits to my own retirement benefits in the next few months since my earnings record will give me a higher monthly amount. What's confusing me is the earnings limit - I know there's been a reduction in my survivor benefits because I'm still working, but I'm not clear when this earnings limit no longer applies? Does it stop at my FRA (which I believe has already passed) or is there something different because I'm switching from survivor to retirement benefits? The SSA website is so confusing about this!

NebulaKnight

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Good news! The earnings limit no longer applies to you since you've already reached your Full Retirement Age (FRA). For someone born in 1958, your FRA is 66 years and 8 months, which you've already passed since you're 67 now. Once you reach your FRA, Social Security no longer reduces your benefits regardless of how much you earn from working. This applies to both survivor benefits and retirement benefits. So you can earn as much as you want without any reduction in benefits.

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Dylan Wright

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That's such a relief! The SSA paperwork made it seem like there might be different rules when switching benefit types. So I can continue at my gallery job without worrying about reductions once I switch to my own benefits? I was afraid I might need to wait until 70 to avoid the earnings test completely.

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Sofia Ramirez

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I went thru the same thing last yr when i switched from my husbands to mine. I was so worried about the earnings limit but they told me once u hit ur FRA its done, doesn't matter if ur on one benefit then go to another one. Just make sure ur new benefit is actually higher tho!!

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Dylan Wright

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Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you have to provide any special documentation when switching from one benefit to the other? I've calculated that my own retirement benefit should be about $320 more per month than what I'm getting on my husband's record now.

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Dmitry Popov

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The Earnings Test ends at your Full Retirement Age, regardless of which benefit type you're receiving. Since you were born in 1958, your FRA is 66 and 8 months, which you've already passed. Here's the technical explanation: The Annual Earnings Test (AET) only applies to beneficiaries below FRA. Once you reach FRA, Section 203 of the Social Security Act no longer imposes benefit withholding based on earnings. This applies across all benefit types - retirement, survivors, spousal, etc. So you can earn unlimited income now without any reduction to your benefits, whether they're survivor or retirement benefits.

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Ava Rodriguez

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I thought there was a different rule for survivor benefits vs. retirement? My neighbor keeps saying survivor benefits have a different earnings test until age 70. Is that wrong?

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Dmitry Popov

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Your neighbor is incorrect. The earnings test works exactly the same way for survivor benefits as it does for retirement benefits - it ends completely at your Full Retirement Age (which varies by birth year). After FRA, there is no earnings test for ANY type of Social Security benefit. The confusion might be because there are different rules for WHEN you can claim different benefits and the reduction percentages differ, but the earnings test itself functions identically across benefit types.

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Miguel Ortiz

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I WENT THROUGH HELL with this exact situation!!! The SSA office gave me THREE different answers when I called. One rep said I was still subject to the limit, another said I wasn't, and the third put me on hold for 40 minutes then hung up on me!!! The system is BROKEN and nobody there knows what they're talking about. I finally had to go in person and wait 4 hours to get the right answer, which is YES, once you're past your FRA the earnings limit is GONE no matter what benefit you're on or switching to. But good luck getting anyone at SSA to confirm this over the phone!

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Zainab Khalil

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I had the same experience trying to call SSA! Waited on hold for over 2 hours just to have them transfer me to someone else who had no idea what I was talking about. It's impossible to get straight answers from them over the phone.

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Ava Rodriguez

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wait but does switchn from survivor to retirement reset anything?? my sister in law said something about the year u switch benefits there's a special calculation they do for earnings?? so confused about all of this stuff

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Dmitry Popov

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There's no 'reset' when switching benefit types. Your sister-in-law might be thinking of the special rule for the calendar year in which you reach FRA - where only earnings before the month you reach FRA count toward the earnings test, and the limit is higher ($56,520 in 2024). But since the original poster is already past FRA (age 67), this doesn't apply at all. Once you're past FRA, the earnings test is completely eliminated regardless of which benefit type you receive or switch to.

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Dylan Wright

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I just want to thank everyone for the helpful responses! I actually called the SSA yesterday after reading your comments, and after a 45-minute wait, the representative confirmed what you all said - the earnings test completely disappears once you reach your FRA regardless of benefit type. Such a relief! Now I can focus on maximizing my gallery income AND my Social Security without worrying about reductions. I'm going to schedule my benefit switch for next month!

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Sofia Ramirez

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congrats!! its such a relief when u finally get a straight answer from them. glad u got it figured out!

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NebulaKnight

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One additional tip since you mentioned maximizing your benefits - make sure you're taking advantage of all the tax strategies available to you. Up to 85% of your Social Security benefits can be taxable if your combined income is high enough. Since you're working part-time, you might want to look into whether contributing to a traditional IRA (if eligible) could help reduce your overall taxable income. There are specific thresholds where Social Security taxation kicks in, and staying under those can sometimes save you money overall.

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Dylan Wright

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That's excellent advice I hadn't considered! My gallery recently started offering a 401(k), so I should probably increase my contributions there to reduce my taxable income. Do you know if there are any special tax considerations when switching from survivor to retirement benefits midyear?

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NebulaKnight

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Great question about midyear switches. There's no special tax treatment specifically for switching benefit types midyear. The IRS will treat all Social Security benefits the same for tax purposes regardless of whether they came from survivor or retirement benefits. You'll receive one combined SSA-1099 for the year showing your total benefits. However, planning your switch to minimize your overall taxable income for the year is smart financial planning!

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Zainab Khalil

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My aunt was in the exaact same situation as you & the thing no one told her was that you HAVE to specifically REQUEST to switch from survivor to your own benefits!!! Social Security doesn't automatically give you the higher amount, you have to apply for it. She missed out on like a year of higher payments bc no one told her.

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Dylan Wright

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Oh my gosh, thank you for mentioning this! I was assuming they would automatically switch me to the higher benefit. I'll make sure to specifically request the change when I call them. Your aunt's experience is a good warning!

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