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One more thing i learned the hard way - make sure you specificlly tell them you want your benefits to START in January. Don't just say you're applying for benefts AT age 70. If your birthday is in Jan. but you file in Dec. be VERY CLEAR about this!!!
As someone who just went through this process myself (turned 70 last month), I can confirm what others have said about the timing. I applied in November for December benefits and received my full DRCs, though it took about 2 months for the final adjustment to show up correctly. One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned - when you apply online or at the office, there's actually a specific question asking what month you want your benefits to BEGIN. Make sure you select January 2025, not December 2024. This prevents any confusion about whether you're trying to claim benefits before your 70th birthday. Also, keep copies of everything and take screenshots of your online application if you file that way. Having documentation makes it much easier to resolve any issues if they come up later.
Thank you so much for this practical advice! I hadn't thought about the importance of being specific about the start month when applying. Taking screenshots is a great tip too - I've learned from other government processes that having documentation can save a lot of headaches later. It's reassuring to hear from someone who just went through this exact situation successfully.
As someone who just went through this process myself, I wanted to add one more perspective that might be helpful. My wife's FRA was also January (2025), and we discovered that the Social Security Administration actually recommends applying about 3 months BEFORE you want your benefits to start to avoid any processing delays. So for January 2026 benefits, definitely submit that application by October 2025 at the latest. Also, don't forget that once your husband reaches his FRA and starts collecting benefits, he can actually continue working if he wants to without any earnings penalty - unlike if you claim early. This gives you even more flexibility in your retirement planning. The earnings test disappears once you hit FRA, so if he wants to do some part-time work or consulting after "retirement," it won't affect his Social Security payments at all. The bottom line everyone's been telling you is absolutely correct: he can stop working December 31st, 2025 (or any day before that) and still receive 100% of his benefit starting January 2026. The timing of when you stop working and when you claim benefits are two completely separate decisions!
Thank you so much for mentioning the 3-month application window - that's exactly the kind of specific timing detail I was looking for! I've been so focused on the work-stop date that I hadn't really nailed down when to actually submit the paperwork. October 2025 it is! And it's great to know about the earnings test disappearing at FRA. My husband has been thinking about maybe doing some consulting work after he "retires," so knowing that won't impact his Social Security is really valuable. Everyone in this thread has been incredibly helpful - I feel so much more confident about our retirement planning now!
I'm so glad you asked this question because I was literally wondering the same thing about my own situation! My FRA is coming up in a few months and I've been stressing about whether I need to work right up until that exact month. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly enlightening - it sounds like the consensus is that you can stop working well before your FRA month and still get full benefits as long as you wait to file until you reach FRA. The distinction between stopping work and claiming benefits seems to be the key thing that trips everyone up (myself included!). Thanks for posting this and getting such detailed answers from everyone - you've helped more people than just yourself!
Daniel, I've been through a very similar situation and want to share what finally worked for me. The death certificate roadblock is incredibly common - SSA has the information but still demands documentation they already possess. Here's what broke through for me: When you call SSA, immediately ask for a "Claims Authorization Representative" and explain that you need to discuss "potential auxiliary benefits on a deceased number holder's record." Use those exact terms - it signals to the system that this is a complex benefits determination, not a simple inquiry. Also mention upfront that "benefits were previously awarded to minor children on this record following the number holder's death in 2012." This creates a paper trail they can follow in their system without requiring external documentation. For the survivor vs. retirement benefit decision, you have a huge advantage being divorced after 19 years. You can potentially use a "claim and switch" strategy: take reduced survivor benefits starting at 60, then switch to your own maximum retirement benefit at 70 if it's higher. This is one of the few scenarios where you can actually optimize both benefits. One often-overlooked point: if you do qualify for survivor benefits, they're calculated differently than spousal benefits and aren't subject to the Government Pension Offset if that applies to your situation. The February appointment is unacceptable given that this should be a straightforward records review. Keep pushing for an earlier date or phone consultation - they often have cancellations that open up sooner slots.
This is incredibly detailed and actionable advice! Thank you for the specific terminology - "Claims Authorization Representative" and "potential auxiliary benefits on a deceased number holder's record" sounds much more official than what I've been saying. I've been stumbling through generic explanations when I should be using their own system language. The point about referencing my children's previous benefits is brilliant - that's documented proof in their system that his death was already processed and verified. I'm going to write down these exact phrases before I call tomorrow morning. The "claim and switch" strategy you described sounds potentially very advantageous. I had no idea you could take survivor benefits at 60 and then switch to your own at 70 if it's higher. That could be a game-changer for maximizing lifetime benefits. One quick question - when you mention this isn't subject to Government Pension Offset, does that apply even though I have a government pension? I worked for the state and paid into Social Security the whole time, so I think I should be okay, but want to make sure I understand correctly. I'm definitely going to keep pushing for an earlier appointment. Three months is ridiculous when they already have all the information they need in their system!
Daniel, I'm really sorry you're dealing with this bureaucratic mess! The death certificate situation is absolutely ridiculous when SSA clearly already has this information in their system. One thing that might help speed up the process: when you call back, try mentioning that you need to discuss "divorced spouse survivor benefits under Section 202(e) of the Social Security Act." Using the specific legal citation sometimes gets you transferred to more knowledgeable representatives who understand these complex cases. Also, since you mentioned your kids received benefits on his record after his death, you might want to have one of their Social Security numbers handy when you call. The rep can look up the family benefit history and see that death benefits were already processed and paid out on your ex-husband's record - that's ironclad proof they have the death information. For what it's worth, you're in a really good position benefits-wise. Being married 19 years gives you strong claim rights, and the fact that you never remarried keeps all your options open. The earnings limit clarification is also huge - having your pension and deferred comp not count toward the limit makes early retirement much more viable. Hang in there - this is definitely solvable, just frustratingly bureaucratic!
My sister applied for her SS retirement last year and she said they asked her a bunch of questions about whether she ever had a different SSN or if she'd ever used another name that wasn't from marriage. Just something else to be prepared for! Also they wanted to know about any pensions from jobs that didn't pay into Social Security (for WEP calculation I guess).
I'm new here but wanted to share my recent experience since it might help! I just went through this exact process last month - had my phone appointment in early October for December benefits after my November FRA. The timing worked out perfectly and I received my first payment right on schedule in January. A couple of things that really helped me: I created a simple checklist of all my documents beforehand and had them spread out on my desk during the call. Also, when they asked about my desired start date, I was very clear that I wanted benefits to begin the month AFTER my FRA to get the full amount. The representative was really helpful and walked me through everything step by step. Your January 10th appointment should give you plenty of time for April benefits. Good luck with your retirement!
Welcome to the community! Your timing experience is really reassuring to hear. I love the idea of having a checklist and spreading documents out beforehand - that sounds much more organized than scrambling to find papers during the call. Did they ask you about anything that wasn't on the standard list most people mention (like birth certificate, W-2s, etc.)? I'm trying to be as prepared as possible since I've heard horror stories about missing documents causing delays.
Freya Christensen
Just to add one more piece of advice - since your husband will be retiring at the end of March next year, you might want to create a my Social Security account online (if you haven't already) to make the application process smoother when the time comes. Also, make sure to apply for benefits about 2-3 months before he wants them to start. While he can apply right after reaching FRA in October for November benefits, giving SSA a little extra processing time is always smart. And remember that even though the earnings test won't apply, his benefits might still be subject to federal income tax if your combined income exceeds certain thresholds. Up to 85% of Social Security benefits can be taxable depending on your overall income.
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Ravi Malhotra
•Thank you! We do have the my Social Security accounts already set up, and we've been checking his estimated benefit amounts there. Good point about applying early - we'll start the process in September then for November benefits. And yes, we're working with our tax advisor on how the benefits will affect our overall tax situation. Really appreciate the help!
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Sean Kelly
Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact scenario two years ago! I reached my FRA in September and filed for benefits in November while still working full-time. Got my full benefit amount with zero issues. The key thing to remember is that Social Security looks at this on a month-by-month basis once you reach FRA, not annually. So even though your husband's total 2025 earnings will be high, SSA only cares about what he earned in the months before reaching FRA in October. One small tip - when he does apply, have his recent pay stubs ready. Sometimes they ask for documentation to verify current employment status, and having everything organized can speed up the process. The whole thing was much smoother than I expected!
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Connor O'Brien
•Thanks for sharing your real experience, Sean! It's really helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation. The month-by-month approach makes so much sense when you explain it that way. Great tip about having pay stubs ready too - I wouldn't have thought of that but it sounds like good preparation. Did SSA actually ask you for them during your application process, or was it more of a "just in case" thing?
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