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How to report foreign earnings to Social Security under totalization agreement?

I'm trying to help my husband maximize his future Social Security benefits, but we've hit a roadblock with his earnings record. He worked in Germany for about 3 years (2016-2019), and when we checked his Social Security statement online, that period shows zero earnings. Germany has a totalization agreement with the US, so I know those earnings should count somehow toward his SS benefits calculation. Has anyone gone through this process of reporting foreign earnings under a totalization agreement? Do we need special forms? Do we contact the German pension authority first or the SSA? We have all his income statements from Germany with the amounts he paid into their system. I've tried calling SSA twice but got disconnected after waiting for over an hour each time. Any advice would be really appreciated!

Zainab Ismail

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You need Form SSA-308 (Self-Employment/Optional Coverage Questionnaire) and possibly Form SSA-42 (Certificate of Coverage). The totalization agreement doesn't automatically transfer earnings data between countries - you have to initiate the process yourself. Be prepared to provide translated copies of all earnings documentation from Germany, including proof of tax payments into their social security system. When I went through this for my work in France, it took about 6 months to get everything processed correctly.

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Miguel Silva

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Thank you so much! I had no idea there were specific forms for this. Did you have to get the earnings documentation officially translated or would our own translation be acceptable? 6 months seems so long, but I guess that's par for the course with government agencies.

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Connor O'Neill

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my brother did this but with canada and it was a NIGHTMARE! they kept losing his paperwork and he had to start all over twice!! make sure u make copies of EVERYTHING u send them

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Miguel Silva

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Oh no, that sounds awful! Thanks for the warning - I'll definitely make multiple copies of everything. Did your brother eventually get it resolved?

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QuantumQuester

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Doesn't the totalization just mean you can combine the quarters/credits from both countries to qualify? I don't think it actually changes your benefit amount - the US will only pay based on your US earnings and Germany will only pay based on your German earnings. At least that's my understanding from when I worked in the UK.

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Zainab Ismail

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That's partially correct. The totalization agreement does allow you to qualify for benefits by combining credits, but there's also a benefit calculation component. The US will calculate a prorated benefit based on the proportion of your career spent working in the US. It's called a "totalized benefit" and it absolutely can increase your US benefit amount if those foreign earnings are properly documented and certified.

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Yara Nassar

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I went through this exact process last year with my husband's earnings from Germany! You need to schedule an in-person appointment at your local SSA office and bring: original German income statements, tax documents showing social security contributions, your marriage certificate, his passport with visa pages showing work authorization, and Form SSA-308 filled out (but they'll also have it there). The key thing we discovered is you need to get a certificate from the German pension insurance system (Deutsche Rentenversicherung) FIRST before going to SSA. They'll provide documentation of his covered earnings that SSA will accept. Fair warning: we tried calling forever and couldn't get through. I finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got us connected to a live agent in about 15 minutes. They have a demo video here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - it was the only way we could actually schedule that crucial in-person appointment.

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Miguel Silva

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This is incredibly helpful! Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I didn't realize we needed to contact the German pension system first - that makes sense. And thanks for the tip about Claimyr - I'll definitely check that out because the calling situation has been impossible.

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Keisha Williams

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i think your confused about how it works. totalization just lets you qualify for benefits in either country if you dont have enough quarters in one. it doesnt actually add money to your benefit amount. thats why its called totaliZation not EQUalization lol

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Yara Nassar

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That's not entirely accurate. While totalization does help you qualify in both countries, it also affects how benefits are calculated. Under the US-Germany agreement, SSA will calculate a "theoretical benefit" based on your combined earnings history, then prorate it based on the percentage of your career spent in the US system. So documenting those German earnings can absolutely increase your US benefit amount.

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Paolo Ricci

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When my wife went through this process for her work in South Korea (another totalization country), we found that the most important thing was persistence. The frontline SSA employees often aren't familiar with totalization agreements and may give incorrect information. We had to politely escalate to a technical expert or supervisor who understood the international agreements. The process took about 9 months total and involved multiple submissions of documentation. One key thing: make sure your husband's name appears exactly the same way on all documents from both countries. Even minor variations caused delays for us. Also, SSA doesn't adjust earnings records over the phone - you'll definitely need an in-person appointment.

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Miguel Silva

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9 months?! Wow, I need to adjust my expectations. Good point about the name consistency - his German documents use his middle initial but his US documents spell out his full middle name. I'll make sure to note that discrepancy when we submit everything.

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Amina Toure

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The US-Germany totalization agreement is one of the more straightforward ones to navigate. Here's the exact process: 1. Contact Deutsche Rentenversicherung first for a certified earnings statement covering the period he worked there (Versicherungsverlauf) 2. Get this document apostilled in Germany (legal certification for international use) 3. Submit Form SSA-308 along with the apostilled German earnings statement to your local SSA office (appointment required) 4. SSA will process this through their Office of International Operations (OIO) in Baltimore 5. They'll update his earnings record with special "deemed" earnings that will count toward his PIA calculation The most common mistake people make is trying to do this without the German pension authority documentation. SSA won't accept employer pay stubs or tax records alone for this purpose - they specifically need certification from the foreign pension system.

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Miguel Silva

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This step-by-step guide is exactly what I needed! I wasn't familiar with the apostille process but will look into that. If we still have contacts in Germany, would it be easier to have them help obtain the Versicherungsverlauf, or can we request this from the US?

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Connor O'Neill

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doesnt this only matter if hes close to retirement? how old is he? maybe not worth the hassle if hes younger

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Miguel Silva

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He's 42, so not close to retirement. But I'd rather get this fixed now while we still have all the documentation and contacts in Germany. I worry it might be harder to track everything down 20+ years from now.

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Zainab Ismail

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One important clarification on totalization that hasn't been mentioned: the agreement doesn't mean those German earnings will show up on his SSA earnings record the way US wages would. Instead, SSA will calculate something called a "theoretical benefit" as if all combined work periods were under US Social Security, then prorate it based on the percentage of work performed in the US. This means that after all your paperwork is processed, his earnings record might still show zeros for those years, but SSA will have internal documentation about the German covered employment that will increase his benefit calculation when he applies for retirement benefits. The most important document is the German equivalent of our Social Security statement showing covered earnings and contributions to their system.

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Miguel Silva

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That makes sense - no wonder I was confused about how it would show up on his record. So even after all this work, his online SSA statement might still show zeros for those years, but the internal calculation will include them when he eventually applies for benefits? That's really helpful to understand so we don't think something went wrong when we check his record later.

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