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Can my non-US spouse claim Social Security benefits based on my record while we live abroad?

I'm an American citizen currently living in London with my British husband. I've been receiving my Social Security retirement benefits for about 3 years now (I'm 70). My husband will be turning 67 next year and we're trying to figure out if he qualifies for any Social Security spousal benefits through me. He does have a Social Security number from when he worked in the US for about 9 years in the 1990s (I think he needed 10 years/40 quarters to qualify on his own record). We've been married for 22 years. Does anyone know if non-US citizens living outside the US can claim spousal benefits? And would the fact that he's receiving a UK pension affect the amount? The SSA website is confusing me with all the talk about totalization agreements and WEP/GPO reductions. Thanks for any guidance!

Sophia Clark

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Yes, your husband can likely qualify for spousal benefits on your record! The good news is that nationality doesn't matter for spousal benefits, and the US has a totalization agreement with the UK that makes this process relatively straightforward. Since he worked in the US for 9 years (36 quarters), he's just shy of qualifying for his own benefit. However, as your spouse, he can receive up to 50% of your full retirement age benefit amount - regardless of his citizenship. A few important things to note: 1. Because he'll be receiving a UK pension, his Social Security spousal benefit will likely be reduced by two-thirds of his UK pension amount (this is called the Government Pension Offset or GPO) 2. He'll need to apply through the Federal Benefits Unit at the US Embassy in London 3. He must have been married to you for at least 1 year (which you clearly meet at 22 years

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Ryan Young

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Thank you so much for this helpful information! I was really confused about how the totalization agreement worked. So if I understand correctly, even with the GPO reduction, he might still get some spousal benefits? His UK pension isn't very large since he spent most of his career as a self-employed carpenter. Do we need to make an appointment with the Embassy or can we start the application online?

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My situation was almost identical! American married to a British husband living in Manchester. He worked in Boston for 8 years in the 80s. He applied for spousal benefits when he turned 66 last year and it was approved, BUT the amount was really disappointing after the GPO reduction. His UK pension basically wiped out most of the SS benefit - he only gets about $120/month from Social Security. The process through the Embassy was pretty straightforward though. We emailed the Federal Benefits Unit first to get instructions.

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Ryan Young

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's good to know about the potential reduction. Even $120 extra per month would be helpful though. Did it take a long time for the application to be processed?

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Madison Allen

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Ryan Young

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Oh, that's really helpful to know! I've tried calling the international number for SSA a few times but the wait times are ridiculous. I'll check out that service if we hit roadblocks. Thanks for the tip!

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Joshua Wood

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I tried Claimyr too when dealing with my German pension coordination. It worked but honestly the Federal Benefits Unit at the London embassy is actually pretty responsive compared to other countries. Just email them first instead of calling.

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Justin Evans

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ur husband DEFINITELY can get benefits!!! i moved to australia with my aussie wife (im american) and she gets spousal SS even though she never even LIVED in the usa!!!! but watch out for that GPO thing its a SCAM they take away most of the money!!!! the whole system is rigged against international couples!!!!

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Ryan Young

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Thanks for your input. I've been reading about the GPO and while it's frustrating, I understand why they have the offset in place. I'll make sure we're prepared for a reduced benefit amount.

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Emily Parker

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A couple of technical points that might help you: 1. The UK-US Totalization Agreement won't actually help your husband qualify for his own benefit in this case. Those agreements help combine work credits to reach minimum qualification, but they don't transfer actual quarters of coverage from one system to another. 2. For the GPO calculation: they'll reduce his spousal benefit by 2/3 of his UK "statutory pension" amount, but any private/occupational UK pensions won't count toward this reduction. 3. If he's just one year short of qualifying on his own record (36 quarters vs. needed 40), you might want to check if there are any US earnings that weren't properly credited. Sometimes self-employment income or cash jobs don't get properly recorded. 4. There's no reduction to YOUR benefit because of his UK pension - the GPO only affects his spousal benefit. Hope that helps clarify things!

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Ezra Collins

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This is slightly wrong, the GPO applies to government pensions from jobs not covered by Social Security. The UK National Insurance pension IS counted for GPO but a work pension from a private UK employer isn't included.

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Emily Parker

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You're absolutely right - thank you for the correction! That's what I was trying to say about the "statutory pension" (meaning the National Insurance pension) versus private pensions, but I should have been clearer. The UK National Insurance pension will trigger GPO, but any additional private UK pension arrangements won't.

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Joshua Wood

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I went through this whole process last year with my Canadian husband. One thing nobody tells you - make sure your husband has his original SS card! If he can't find it from when he worked in the US decades ago, request a replacement NOW because that added months to our application process.

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Ryan Young

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That's excellent advice, thank you! He actually does still have his original card in our important documents file, but I wouldn't have thought that would be a potential delay. Really appreciate the tip.

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Ezra Collins

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Just wanted to add that my friend is in a similar situation but reversed - he's British and his wife is American, living in Wales. Something to be aware of is that benefit payments for non-US citizens living abroad sometimes need to be picked up in person every 6 months at a US embassy or consulate. Rules vary by country though, so check specifically for UK requirements.

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Ryan Young

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Really? That would be quite inconvenient since we're not in London. I'll definitely ask about this when we contact the Federal Benefits Unit. Thanks for bringing this up!

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Sophia Clark

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To address your question about starting the application process - you should first contact the Federal Benefits Unit at the US Embassy in London. They handle all Social Security matters for UK residents. Email them at FBU.London@ssa.gov to get the process started. They'll likely send you the proper forms and instructions. Your husband will need: 1. His Social Security card 2. Birth certificate 3. Marriage certificate 4. Information about his UK pension 5. Your Social Security number and claim information The application can't be completed fully online for international cases, but they can certainly get you started with the right paperwork.

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Ryan Young

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Thanks for the detailed information! I'll email the FBU to get started. We have all those documents ready, so hopefully the process won't be too difficult.

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Justin Evans

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my wife just reminded me that they send payments different for people overseas!!! u cant get direct deposit to a UK bank!! they either do direct deposit to a US bank account (do u still have one?) or they mail actual CHECKS to ur address in london which is crazy slow!

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Emily Parker

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This is outdated information. The SSA now offers International Direct Deposit to UK bank accounts. They've expanded this service to most countries. No need to maintain a US bank account or deal with paper checks anymore.

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Justin Evans

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oh really?? that must be new!! we still have to use my sisters US address and bank for my wifes benefits!! good to know thx

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