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Just got approved for early SS retirement at 62 (begins next month) and I'm SUPER confused about family benefits for my kids. My benefit at 62 will be about $2,700/month and would've been around $4,050 at full retirement age. Here's where I'm lost - when I first spoke with an SSA rep last week, she told me my two teenage daughters (14 and 16) and my wife (who's their primary caregiver) would each get approximately $2,025 based on my FRA amount x 50%. Then yesterday, a different rep called back saying the first calculation was wrong and they'd each get about $1,010 based on something called the "family maximum" divided by 3. The second amount sounds more realistic (first seemed crazy high), but I don't know which formula is correct. Can anyone who understands family maximum benefit calculations explain what's going on? And two quick related questions: 1. For tax withholding - do I need separate W-4V forms for myself, my wife, and kids? We file jointly, but not sure how this works for SS benefits. 2. We usually spend 6-8 weeks visiting family overseas each summer - do we really need to notify Social Security about this? One booklet says yes for trips over 30 days, but the rep told me it's not necessary for vacations.
I'm turning 67 next month and just got approved for my Social Security retirement benefits starting in April. After crunching the numbers, I realized if I waited until 70, I'd only get about $135 more per month than what I'll receive now. Given current interest rates, I figured I might as well collect now and invest the payments, since I'm still working full-time and don't actually need the money yet (planning to retire around January 2026). The SSA already sent me my benefit approval letter showing my monthly amount will be $2,840. My question is - am I missing something here? Since I'll be working full-time for almost another year after starting benefits, could my payments be reduced because of the earnings test? I thought that doesn't apply after FRA, but wanted to check if anyone sees potential problems with my strategy before I start receiving payments. Thanks for any insights!
My neighbor did something similar but she put all her SS money in I bonds last year when the rates were really good!
I-bonds can certainly be a good option for preserving capital with inflation protection. However, there's a $10,000 annual purchase limit per person for electronic I-bonds (plus potentially $5,000 more from tax refunds), which may be less than the total SS benefits received in a year. For someone receiving $2,840 monthly as mentioned, that's about $34,000 annually, so additional investment vehicles would be needed beyond the I-bond limit.
Your strategy sounds solid! I'm in a similar situation - turning 66 this year and considering the same approach. One thing I'd add is to make sure you understand how the taxation works with your specific income level. Since you mentioned you don't actually need the money yet, you might want to consider maximizing contributions to tax-deferred accounts (401k, traditional IRA if eligible) with your work income to help offset some of the tax impact from the SS benefits. Also, have you factored in potential healthcare costs? If you're planning to retire in January 2026, you'll want to make sure you have a solid plan for health insurance coverage between then and Medicare eligibility if you're not already on it. The extra cash flow from SS starting now could help build up an HSA if you have access to one through work.
I logged into my Social Security account yesterday to check my earnings record and noticed my 2024 wages aren't showing up yet. All my previous years are there, but nothing for 2024 even though I've been working steadily all year. Is this normal? When does SSA typically update the earnings information? I'm planning to retire in about 18 months, so I want to make sure everything is correct before I apply for benefits. Should I be concerned or is there a typical lag time for this data to appear?
Thanks everyone for the great information! I was definitely overthinking this. I'll stop worrying about the 2024 earnings not showing up yet. Does anyone know if I should be checking my earnings record for accuracy every year? I've never really paid attention to it before now that retirement is getting closer.
Yes, it's a good practice to check your earnings record annually. If there are errors (missing earnings or incorrect amounts), there's a 3-year, 3-month, and 15-day time limit to correct them. After that, it becomes much harder to make changes. Since your retirement is approaching, verifying past years is important - especially high-earning years that will factor into your benefit calculation.
Absolutely check it regularly! I discovered my employer failed to report one quarter back in 2017, and I had to get that fixed. Your benefit amount is based on your highest 35 years of indexed earnings, so missing wages can directly impact your monthly payment amount. The SSA statement will also show your estimated retirement benefits at different claiming ages (62, FRA, 70), which is helpful for planning.
Great advice from everyone here! I'm in a similar situation preparing for retirement. One thing I'd add - if you do find any discrepancies when checking your earnings record, make sure to keep copies of your W-2s and tax returns as documentation. I learned this the hard way when I had to prove earnings from a job 15 years ago and had to track down old records. The SSA will accept various forms of proof including pay stubs, tax returns, and employer records, but having your own copies makes the process much smoother.
I'm honestly freaked out right now. Just got a letter from SSA asking about 2023 earnings under my late husband's name and Social Security number. He passed away in 2006 (17 years ago!!) and I definitely reported his death to Social Security back then. The letter shows some company I've never heard of supposedly employed him last year? I immediately called the SSA fraud hotline to report it and then contacted the company listed as the 'employer.' They told me they've never had anyone by my husband's name working there and suggested it's probably some kind of scam. I'm remarried now and collect Social Security on my own work record, so I'm not worried about my benefits being affected, but this feels really violating. Has anyone dealt with something similar? Is reporting it to the fraud line enough, or should I be doing something else to protect his identity? And I'm curious - how would this type of scam even work?
Final update: You all have been so helpful through this stressful situation! I wanted to share what's happened after taking your advice. I filed all the recommended reports and placed credit freezes. The credit card companies closed the fraudulent accounts after I sent death certificates. The most progress came after using that Claimyr service someone suggested to reach SSA directly. I actually got through to a knowledgeable agent who confirmed my husband's death was properly recorded but explained the earnings issue slipped through during employer reporting. They're removing the false earnings and flagging his SSN in their system for enhanced monitoring. They also connected me with their OIG (Office of Inspector General) to ensure a thorough investigation. It's been exhausting but I feel like I've done everything possible to shut this down. Thank you all again for your guidance through this ordeal!
You've done an excellent job handling this situation systematically. I'm glad you got confirmation that his death was properly recorded and that the false earnings are being removed. The enhanced monitoring flag is particularly important - not everyone knows to ask for that. One final suggestion: set yourself a calendar reminder to check his credit reports again in 6 months, just to ensure no new activity has occurred. Identity theft issues can sometimes resurface.
Thank you for sharing your experience and updates throughout this ordeal - it's incredibly helpful for others who might face similar situations. Your systematic approach to handling this identity theft was exactly right. I'm glad the Claimyr service helped you get through to a knowledgeable SSA agent who could actually resolve the earnings issue and set up enhanced monitoring. One additional tip for anyone reading this thread: if you're dealing with deceased family member identity theft, consider requesting annual Social Security statements for the deceased person (if you're the legal representative). This can help you catch fraudulent activity early before it becomes as extensive as what happened here with the credit cards. It's unfortunate that protecting deceased loved ones' identities requires so much effort, but your detailed documentation of the process will definitely help others navigate this same nightmare.
I've been on medical leave throughout most of 2023 which resulted in significantly lower income that year. Now in 2024, I'm back to full-time work with much higher earnings. I'm trying to figure out when these higher 2024 earnings will actually be factored into my Social Security benefit calculation. I know SS uses your highest 35 years, but I'm confused about the timing - does anyone know when the SSA incorporates your previous year's income into the benefit amount? Will my 2024 earnings show up in calculations for 2025, or is there a longer delay? This could make a big difference in when I decide to file for benefits in the next few years.
Thank you all for the helpful responses! This clears up a lot of my confusion. It sounds like I should expect my 2024 earnings to be reflected in SSA's systems by mid-2025, and since I'm planning to wait until 2026 to apply for benefits, those earnings will definitely be included in my initial benefit calculation. That's a relief since 2023 was such a low year for me during medical leave.
I went through something similar a few years back when I had a career gap. One thing to keep in mind is that Social Security also indexes your earnings for inflation when calculating benefits, so your older earnings get adjusted upward. This means that even though your 2024 earnings will be higher in raw dollars, the indexed value of your previous good earning years might still be competitive depending on how long ago they were. You can get a rough estimate by looking at the wage indexing factors on SSA's website - they publish these annually. It might help you better understand whether your 2024 return to work will significantly boost your eventual benefit or just marginally improve it.
Declan Ramirez
the kids benefits DO end when they turn 18 or graduate high school (up to 19 if still in high school) so keep that in mind for ur planning
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Sean Matthews
AuthorGood point - our daughters are 14 and 16 now, so we've got a few years but definitely need to plan for when those benefits stop.
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Isabella Costa
I'm new to this community but going through a similar situation with early retirement and family benefits. This thread has been incredibly helpful! I had no idea about the family maximum rule and how it actually works. One quick question for those who've been through this - when you're calculating your family's total monthly budget, do you factor in the possibility that the family maximum calculation might change if Social Security recalculates your PIA? I've heard sometimes there are adjustments made after you start receiving benefits, especially in the first year. Also, @Sean Matthews, thanks for starting this discussion. The conflicting information from SSA reps is so frustrating - it's reassuring to know others have experienced the same thing!
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