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I started collecting my retirement benefits early at 62 back in October 2024. My Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) is $3,250 and the SSA told me my Family Maximum Benefit (FMB) is $6,085. I've got three family members who qualify for benefits on my record: 1. My 18-year-old son who's finishing his senior year of high school 2. My 30-year-old daughter who has a disability and just transitioned from SSI to Disabled Adult Child (DAC) benefits 3. My wife who qualifies as a parent with a Child-in-Care (CIC) because she takes care of our disabled daughter We submitted all the applications, and supposedly everything's been approved. But the award letters we got look nothing like what the SSA rep told us to expect! I've called multiple times but keep getting disconnected or transferred to people who can't answer my questions. Can anyone please explain: 1. What exactly is my "Auxiliary Benefit" total and how is it calculated? 2. Are my family members' payments calculated from the Auxiliary Benefit or the FMB? 3. Should my three beneficiaries receive equal payments, or is there a formula for how it's split? 4. Based on my PIA and FMB, what should the total monthly amount be for all three of them combined? 5. After my son graduates high school this spring and is no longer eligible, how will the benefit amounts change for my wife and disabled daughter? I'm completely lost trying to make sense of these benefit calculations, and the SSA hasn't been any help. Thanks in advance for any insights!
I started collecting my Social Security retirement benefits last year when I reached my full retirement age (66 years and 10 months). My current wife receives a spousal benefit that's reduced because she opted to claim before reaching her FRA. The arrangement works well for our situation despite the reduction. My question is about my former spouse. We were married for 19 years before divorcing, and she has since remarried. She's currently 55 years old. I'm wondering if she has any potential claims to my Social Security benefits, either now or in the future? Does her remarriage completely eliminate any possibility of her claiming on my record? Or could she potentially make a claim when she reaches retirement age? Appreciate any insights from those who understand ex-spouse benefit rules!
Thank you all for the helpful information! It seems clear that my ex-wife has no claim to benefits on my record as long as she remains married. That's a relief to know. My current wife and I are satisfied with our benefit decisions, even though she's receiving a reduced amount by claiming early. One follow-up question - if my ex-wife's current marriage ends and she then claims on my record when she's eligible, would I be notified by SSA? Or would that happen without my knowledge?
The SSA would not notify you if your ex-wife files for benefits on your record. The process happens entirely without your involvement or knowledge. Remember that her claim (if she ever becomes eligible to file one) would have absolutely no impact on your benefit amount or your current wife's benefits. The SSA considers each claim independently.
Just wanted to add some clarity on the timing aspects since I see some questions about this. Your ex-wife would need to wait until she's at least 62 to claim any ex-spouse benefits (assuming she becomes eligible by being unmarried at that time). Since she's currently 55, that's still 7 years away. Also, regarding notification - you're correct that SSA won't notify you if she ever does file. This is standard practice to protect privacy. The system is designed so that ex-spouse claims are completely separate from your benefits and don't require any input or awareness from you. One small correction to an earlier comment - the 10-year marriage requirement is measured from the date of marriage to the date the divorce was finalized, not just separated. Since you mentioned 19 years of marriage, that requirement is definitely met if the situation ever changes.
I'm trying to figure out if I can still collect Social Security benefits based on my ex-husband's record if I remarry. We were married for 15 years before divorcing 4 years ago. I'm now 58 and considering getting remarried to my current boyfriend. Someone told me that if I remarry, I lose the ability to claim on my ex's record completely, but someone else said I can still get them if I wait until I'm 60? I'm so confused by these remarriage rules and can't get through to anyone at SSA. My own work record is much smaller than my ex's because I stayed home with our kids for several years. Any help understanding this would be really appreciated!
@Ali Anderson, you're absolutely correct about the remarriage rules applying to survivor benefits too! And congratulations on your upcoming marriage. One important distinction with surviving divorced spouse benefits that wasn't mentioned yet: you can potentially start collecting them as early as age 60 (compared to age 62 for regular divorced spouse benefits), though they'll be reduced if you take them before your full retirement age. Since you'll be 60 when you remarry, you could theoretically apply for these benefits right away if needed. The benefit amount for survivors is indeed much better - potentially up to 100% of what your ex-husband was receiving or entitled to receive, rather than the 50% maximum for divorced spouse benefits. Given his higher earnings, this could be substantial. I'd definitely echo the advice to get official estimates from SSA before your wedding. Since survivor benefits can start at 60 and you're remarrying right at that age, you'll want to understand your options for timing - whether to apply immediately at 60 (reduced benefits) or wait until your full retirement age for the maximum amount. The timing of your remarriage actually works out perfectly to preserve all your options while still allowing you to marry when you planned. Best wishes!
@Kristian Bishop Great question about getting estimates! A few options that have been mentioned in this thread: 1. Create a "my Social Security" account at ssa.gov - this will show your own projected benefits but won't show ex-spouse benefits 2. Try that Claimyr service that @Giovanni Rossi mentioned earlier - apparently it helps you get connected to SSA much faster than calling directly 3. Some people have had luck calling SSA early in the morning (like 8 AM) or late in the day to avoid peak times You could also try visiting a local SSA office in person, though they often have long waits too. But for something this important to your financial future, it's really worth the effort to get official numbers rather than just estimates or rules of thumb. @Ali Anderson, I agree your timing is perfect! And thank you @Zoe Kyriakidou for starting such a helpful discussion - I'm learning so much from everyone's experiences and questions.
@Kristian Bishop For getting estimates without the phone hassle, I'd definitely recommend trying that Claimyr service that @Giovanni Rossi mentioned earlier - several people in this thread have had success with it for getting through to SSA quickly. You can also create a "my Social Security" account at ssa.gov which will show your own projected benefits, though it won't show what you might be eligible for based on an ex-spouse's record. Another option is to visit your local SSA office in person if you have one nearby - sometimes that's faster than trying to get through on the phone, especially for complex questions about divorced spouse or survivor benefits. They can run scenarios for you and give you printouts of the different benefit amounts you might be eligible for. I agree that understanding all your options before making remarriage decisions is really important - we're talking about potentially thousands of dollars per year in retirement income, so it's worth the effort to get the official numbers!
I've been following this discussion and wanted to share some additional resources that might help everyone here. For those struggling to get through to SSA by phone, you can also visit your local Social Security office in person - sometimes it's faster than waiting on hold for hours. You can find your nearest office at ssa.gov/locator. I'd recommend calling ahead to see if they require appointments, as some offices have shifted to appointment-only since COVID. Also, if you're trying to get benefit estimates, the online "my Social Security" account at ssa.gov is really helpful for seeing your own projected benefits, though as others mentioned, it won't show you what you might be eligible for from an ex-spouse's record. One more tip: if you do end up calling SSA, try calling right when they open at 7 AM local time - the wait times are usually much shorter in the morning. I've had good luck getting through within 15-20 minutes that way versus hours during peak times. The remarriage timing decisions you're all discussing are so important financially - it's worth the effort to get the official numbers to make informed choices!
Thanks for these practical tips, @Hazel Garcia! The 7 AM calling strategy is something I hadn't thought of - that could save so much frustration. I've been dreading trying to call SSA but knowing there's a better time to get through makes it seem more manageable. I'm definitely going to try creating that online account first to at least see my own benefit projections. Even though it won't show ex-spouse benefits, having my own numbers will be a good starting point for comparison. This whole thread has been incredibly educational. It's amazing how many nuances there are to these remarriage rules that I never would have known about otherwise. I feel much better prepared to have informed conversations about timing now!
Hi everyone - I'm in a bit of a situation with my Social Security online account. About 18 months ago, I set up a MySocialSecurity account because I was planning to start collecting benefits at 62. After submitting my application, I consulted with a lawyer who advised me to cancel it, which I did about a week later. Now I'm actually ready to apply, but I've completely forgotten my username and password for that account. Do I need to create an entirely new MySocialSecurity account, or is there a way to recover my old one? I've tried the password reset option but it asks for information I can't remember setting up. Anyone dealt with this before?
I'm going through almost this exact same situation right now! Created my MySocialSecurity account about a year ago, forgot all my login details, and have been putting off dealing with it. Reading through all these experiences has been incredibly helpful and reassuring. The overwhelming consensus around trying ID.me verification first is really convincing - so many success stories with quick turnaround times. I especially appreciate the practical tips about lighting for the selfie and making sure to wear/not wear glasses to match your ID photo. One question for those who used ID.me successfully - did you have to remember any information from your original account setup, or does the verification rely entirely on matching your current government ID? I'm worried I might get stuck if they ask for details I've completely forgotten from when I first created the account. Also want to echo the thanks to Dmitry from the SSA office for taking time to share official guidance - knowing that walk-ins are seeing 3-4 hour waits definitely makes the online recovery options much more appealing! Going to try the ID.me route this weekend when I have good natural lighting.
Welcome to the community, Diego! I'm glad this thread has been helpful for you too. To answer your question about the ID.me verification - from what I understand based on everyone's experiences shared here, the ID.me process relies primarily on verifying your current identity (government ID + selfie) rather than requiring you to remember details from your original account setup. That's actually one of the big advantages of this method over the old security questions system. The whole point is to verify that you are who you say you are using current documentation, and then they can match that to your existing SSA records. So you shouldn't need to remember forgotten passwords, security questions, or other account setup details. The success stories shared by Carmen, Zara, and others seem to confirm that it's really about identity verification rather than account knowledge. Good luck with trying the ID.me route this weekend - the natural lighting tip seems to be really important based on multiple people's experiences!
Diego, great question! I can confirm from my own experience with ID.me verification that you don't need to remember anything from your original account setup. The whole process is based on verifying your current identity using your government-issued ID and a live selfie - it's completely separate from whatever password or security questions you originally set up. That's exactly why this method has been so successful for people in situations like ours where we've forgotten all the original account details. The system verifies you are who you claim to be using current documentation, then matches that verified identity to your existing SSA records. So don't worry about remembering old account details - focus on having good lighting and your current driver's license ready for the verification process. Based on all the success stories here, you should be able to get back into your account without needing to recall any forgotten information from the original setup!
I'm new to this community but wanted to share my experience since I just went through this exact situation last month! I had a MySocialSecurity account from about 2 years ago that I completely forgot how to access - couldn't remember my username, password, or security question answers. I was really dreading the recovery process after hearing horror stories about long wait times and complicated procedures. After reading through similar discussions, I decided to try the ID.me verification route that many people recommended, and I'm so glad I did! The entire process took less than 15 minutes. Here's what made it work smoothly for me: 1) Made sure I had excellent lighting (near a window during daytime) 2) Had my current driver's license ready 3) Wore my glasses since that's how I appear in my license photo 4) Made sure my phone camera was clean for a clear selfie The ID.me system was much more intuitive than I expected. It walks you through each step clearly, and the identity verification happens in real-time. Once verified, I was immediately back into my MySocialSecurity account and could update all my contact information. One thing I learned: definitely don't try to create a new account if you already have one - I've heard that can trigger fraud alerts and cause major delays. The account recovery route is definitely the way to go. For anyone facing this same situation, I'd highly recommend trying the ID.me verification first before calling or visiting an office. Based on my experience and what others have shared, it has a very high success rate and saves a lot of time and frustration. Good luck!
Welcome to the community, Javier! Your detailed step-by-step breakdown is incredibly helpful and really reinforces what so many others have shared about the ID.me verification being the best first option. I love that you included the specific preparation tips - having your phone camera clean is such a simple but important detail that I wouldn't have thought of! Your 15-minute success timeline is fantastic and really shows how streamlined this process can be when you're prepared. It's also great to hear another confirmation about avoiding the duplicate account creation - that fraud alert issue seems to be a real problem based on multiple people's experiences. Thanks for taking the time to share such a thorough account of your experience. Stories like yours give people facing this situation the confidence to tackle what initially seems like an overwhelming problem. The community support here really is amazing!
My wife (63) and I (65) are trying to figure out our Social Security strategy. I've been told that if my wife waits until her full retirement age (which is 67), she can get 50% of my benefit amount instead of her own if mine is higher. But then someone else said she can claim on my record even before her FRA, just at a reduced rate. I'm already collecting my retirement ($2,800/month), and her benefit at her FRA would be around $1,100. Can someone explain the rules about spousal benefits and the FRA connection? Is there a big advantage to her waiting until 67? We're trying to maximize our household income over the long term.
Great decision on waiting until her FRA! Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful - make sure to factor in Medicare costs when doing your calculations. Since your wife is 63, she'll need to bridge health insurance until she's eligible for Medicare at 65. If she's currently on your employer plan or paying for individual coverage, those costs should be part of your decision matrix. Also, when she does file at 67, make sure she applies about 3-4 months before her birthday to avoid any delays in processing. The SSA can be slow, and you don't want to miss any monthly payments due to paperwork delays. You've gotten excellent advice here from the community!
Just want to emphasize something that might get overlooked in all these calculations - don't forget about cost of living adjustments (COLAs)! Both your wife's own retirement benefit and any spousal benefit she receives will get annual COLA increases. So if she waits until 67 and gets that $1,400 spousal benefit, it won't stay at $1,400 - it'll increase each year with inflation adjustments. This makes the "waiting" strategy even more valuable over time since she'll be getting COLAs applied to the higher base amount. Also, since you mentioned trying to reach SSA - their online calculators at ssa.gov can give you pretty accurate estimates without having to wait on hold for hours. You can create a my Social Security account and run different scenarios to see exactly what her benefits would look like at different claiming ages.
The online calculators at ssa.gov are great for individual retirement benefit projections, but they're limited when it comes to spousal benefits. You can see your estimated retirement benefit at different claiming ages, but for spousal benefit calculations, you'll likely need to do the math manually or speak with an SSA representative. The calculators will show your husband's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), and then you can calculate 50% of that for your spousal benefit at FRA. Just remember that if your own retirement benefit is higher than 50% of his PIA, you'll get your own benefit instead. The my Social Security account is definitely worth setting up though - it gives you access to your complete earnings history and benefit estimates, which is super helpful for planning!
The ssa.gov calculators are great for individual benefit estimates, but they don't show spousal benefit scenarios directly. You'll see your own projected benefits at different claiming ages, but for spousal benefits you'll need to do the math yourself (50% of spouse's PIA) or call SSA. However, the calculators will show you both spouses' individual benefit amounts, so you can easily compare and see which scenario gives the higher payout. The online tools are definitely worth using first before dealing with phone wait times!
Dmitry Ivanov
To answer your specific question about what happens after your son graduates: The family maximum won't change - it stays tied to your PIA. But with one fewer beneficiary, the amount available will be redistributed. However, there's a special rule called the "pie shrinking rule" that might affect your situation. When a beneficiary stops receiving benefits, sometimes the total auxiliary amount available to remaining beneficiaries actually shrinks slightly rather than staying the same. Rather than trying to calculate this yourself, I strongly recommend requesting a written benefit estimate from SSA that shows what everyone's benefit will be after your son ages out. Make sure to specify that you need an estimate that accounts for the family maximum redistribution when your son turns 19. Ask for this in writing - that way if they calculate it incorrectly, you'll have documentation to support an appeal later.
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StarSailor
AuthorI had no idea about the "pie shrinking rule" - this is exactly why this is all so confusing! I'll definitely request that written estimate. Is there a specific form I should ask for, or just request a written explanation of future benefit amounts?
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Dmitry Ivanov
There's no specific form - just ask for a "written benefit estimate showing the recalculation of family benefits after my son ages out." Make sure to emphasize that you need it in writing and that it should show all beneficiaries' amounts before and after the change. If they refuse to provide it in writing, ask to speak to a supervisor - you have a right to this information in writing.
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Ruby Knight
I'm sorry you're dealing with this frustrating situation! The family maximum benefit calculations are incredibly complex, and unfortunately many SSA representatives don't fully understand them either. One thing I'd suggest is requesting a "Family Maximum Benefit Worksheet" when you speak to a Technical Expert. This is an internal document that shows exactly how they calculated each person's benefit amount and how the family maximum was applied. It's not something they routinely provide, but you have the right to request it. Also, make sure to ask specifically about the timing of when your family members' benefits started. Sometimes there are slight differences in effective dates that can affect the calculations, especially if applications were processed at different times. Given the complexity of your situation with three different types of beneficiaries (child, DAC, and CIC), I'd also recommend asking the Technical Expert to explain which specific sections of the Social Security Act apply to your case. The rules for DAC benefits can be different from regular auxiliary benefits, and that might explain why your daughter's amount seems lower than expected. Keep detailed notes of every conversation and ask for reference numbers for any calculations they provide. If the numbers still don't make sense, you can always file an appeal and request a formal review of the benefit calculations.
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