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As a newcomer to this community, I just want to say thank you for asking such an important and well-thought-out question! I'm 57 and my wife is 55, so we're a few years away from these decisions but already starting to plan our Social Security strategy. What's been absolutely incredible about this discussion is seeing so many consistent real-world experiences from people like Josef, Charity, and Carmen who actually received those enhanced survivor benefits. Before reading this thread, I was getting mixed information from various sources, but having multiple people confirm they received the FULL amount their spouse was getting at death (not just the FRA amount) really validates this approach. I'm also grateful for all the practical tips that emerged - the Claimyr service for reaching SSA, setting up my Social Security accounts early, the importance of annual earnings record checks, and understanding timelines like the 30-day reporting requirement. These are exactly the operational details you need but don't always think to research ahead of time. Your strategy of delaying to 70 while considering both your immediate needs and your wife's long-term financial security seems very sound based on all the evidence shared here. It's encouraging to see someone planning so thoughtfully for both scenarios. This discussion has given me much more confidence about our own future planning - thank you for starting such a valuable conversation!
Welcome to the community, Keisha! As someone who's also relatively new here, I'm so glad you found this discussion as valuable as I did. Your timing at 57 and 55 gives you a wonderful advantage - having several years to absorb all these insights and implement the practical suggestions before you need to make your claiming decisions. What really struck me throughout this entire thread is exactly what you mentioned - the remarkable consistency of real-world experiences from Josef, Charity, Carmen and others. Before finding this community, I was also getting conflicting advice from different sources, but hearing from multiple people who actually lived through receiving those enhanced survivor benefits removes all the uncertainty. I've been taking notes on the same practical details you mentioned! The Claimyr service recommendation could be a real game-changer given how difficult it seems to reach SSA directly these days. And knowing about things like the annual earnings record checks gives you time to catch and correct any errors well before they could affect your benefit calculations. It's wonderful to see how this community shares genuine experiences rather than just theoretical advice. Having several years to plan based on these insights puts you in an excellent position to optimize your strategy. Thanks for adding your perspective - it's encouraging to connect with others who are finding the same clarity and confidence through these shared experiences!
As a newcomer to this community, I'm incredibly grateful for this comprehensive discussion! I'm 59 and my husband is 62, so we're right in the middle of trying to figure out our Social Security timing strategy. What gives me the most confidence is seeing all the consistent real-world experiences from Josef, Charity, Carmen, and others who actually went through the survivor benefit process and confirmed they received the full enhanced amounts from delayed claiming. Before finding this thread, I was getting so much conflicting advice from friends and online articles, but having multiple people with firsthand experience validate that this strategy actually works as intended is incredibly reassuring. I'm also taking notes on all the practical tips that came up naturally throughout this conversation - the Claimyr service for getting through to SSA (since their phone lines are impossible), setting up our my Social Security accounts to track benefits, and those important timelines like the 30-day reporting requirement. These are exactly the kinds of operational details you need to know but don't always think to research upfront. Your approach of optimizing for both your immediate retirement security AND your wife's long-term survivor benefits shows such thoughtful planning. It's clear this strategy benefits both of you, which makes the decision to wait until 70 even more compelling. Thank you for asking this question - it's helped so many of us newcomers feel more confident about our own Social Security planning decisions!
I work for a disability advocacy organization and see these situations frequently. One critical point I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you should also inquire about the "month of entitlement" for your CIC benefits. Since your ex-spouse took early retirement at 58, your CIC benefits should begin the same month your son's DAC benefits became effective, assuming you were providing care at that time. However, there's often confusion about the "application month" versus "entitlement month." Make sure to emphasize when you call SSA that you've been continuously providing care since before your son's DAC benefits began. This distinction could affect your backpay significantly. Also, I'd strongly recommend getting any verbal promises or information from SSA representatives in writing. Ask them to send you a letter confirming your eligibility determination and benefit amount before your first payment. This prevents disputes later and gives you documentation if you need to appeal any decisions. One more thing - if you encounter resistance from SSA staff who seem unfamiliar with CIC benefits for disabled adult children, you can reference Program Operations Manual System (POMS) section RS 00203.001, which specifically covers mother's and father's benefits. Sometimes citing the specific regulation helps representatives understand what you're requesting. You've clearly been an exceptional caregiver, and the system should work for you, not against you. Keep advocating for yourself - you've earned these benefits through 15 years of dedication.
This is incredibly detailed and professional advice - thank you so much! The distinction between "application month" and "entitlement month" is something I never would have known to ask about, but it sounds like it could make a real difference in the amount of backpay I receive. I love the tip about referencing the specific POMS section (RS 00203.001) when talking to representatives. Having that regulation number ready could save me from having to explain the entire concept to someone who's never handled this type of case before. Your point about getting everything in writing is also crucial. After reading everyone's experiences here about getting contradictory information from different SSA representatives, I can see how important it would be to have documentation of what I'm told verbally. As someone who works with these cases regularly, do you have any sense of how long the entire process typically takes from initial application to first payment? I'm trying to plan financially for the transition period, especially since I may need to take time off from any potential part-time work to handle the application process and appointments. Thank you again for sharing your professional expertise. It's so helpful to get guidance from someone who sees these cases from the advocacy side rather than just the government administration side.
Based on my experience working with families in similar situations, the typical timeline from application to first payment is usually 4-6 weeks for CIC benefits when the underlying DAC benefits are already established. Since your son is already receiving DAC benefits, SSA doesn't need to make a new disability determination - they just need to verify your caregiving relationship and process your auxiliary benefit claim. However, this timeline can vary significantly depending on your local office's workload and whether any complications arise. In my experience, the cases that process most smoothly are ones where the applicant comes prepared with all documentation and can clearly articulate their ongoing caregiving role. A few additional timeline considerations: - If you establish a protective filing date by phone first, your benefits will be backdated to that date even if the formal application takes several weeks to complete - The first payment often includes the lump sum backpay, which can be substantial if you're entitled to several months of retroactive benefits - If there are any questions about your caregiving documentation, they may request additional evidence, which can add 2-4 weeks to the process For financial planning during the transition, I'd recommend assuming it could take up to 8 weeks just to be safe, especially if you're planning to reduce work hours during the application process. The backpay should help bridge any income gap once it arrives. One final suggestion - consider reaching out to your local Area Agency on Aging or disability resource center. Many have benefits counselors who can provide free assistance with SSA applications and might even accompany you to appointments. Having an advocate familiar with the system can really streamline the process.
This timeline information is exactly what I needed to hear! Knowing that 4-6 weeks is typical for CIC benefits when DAC is already established gives me a realistic expectation to plan around. The 8-week buffer you suggest makes sense too - better to be prepared for delays than caught off guard. The point about the first payment potentially including a lump sum backpay is really encouraging. If I can get that protective filing date established early next week and there are several months of retroactive benefits, that could really help with the financial transition while I'm focusing on the application process. Your suggestion about contacting the local Area Agency on Aging or disability resource center is brilliant! I had no idea these organizations might have benefits counselors who could actually accompany me to SSA appointments. As someone who's been navigating this alone for so long, having an experienced advocate by my side sounds like it could make a huge difference in ensuring everything goes smoothly. Thank you for such practical, realistic guidance about what to expect. After reading through everyone's advice in this thread, I feel like I finally have a clear roadmap for moving forward. I'm going to call SSA first thing Monday morning to establish that protective filing date, then reach out to our local disability resource center to see if they have someone who can help guide me through the process.
As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to thank everyone for this incredibly comprehensive and reassuring discussion! I'm currently helping my 24-year-old cousin who receives DAC benefits, and we just faced this exact same panic when she received a settlement from a medical malpractice case. Like so many others here, we initially got terrifying advice from a local benefits counselor who insisted she'd need to "spend down" the settlement money immediately or lose her DAC benefits. We were scrambling to figure out how to quickly use $18,000 "appropriately" when I found this thread and realized we'd been given completely wrong information. It's such a relief to understand that DAC benefits fall under Title II (SSDI) and have absolutely NO asset limits! My cousin can keep her settlement without any impact on her monthly payments. The widespread confusion between SSI rules (with the $2,000 limit) and DAC/SSDI rules is honestly shocking, especially when it's coming from people who are supposed to be helping families navigate these systems. What really stands out reading through all these experiences is how universal this problem seems to be - almost everyone here has a story about getting incorrect advice from SSA employees, benefit counselors, or other professionals who mix up these program rules. It's frightening how confidently wrong information gets delivered by people in official positions. The practical suggestions throughout this discussion have been invaluable - especially about ABLE accounts and the Claimyr service. I'm definitely going to help my cousin set up an ABLE account for extra protection with state benefits, and I'll be recommending this community to other families dealing with similar confusion. Thank you all for creating such a supportive space where real families can share accurate information and help each other avoid unnecessary financial panic. This thread is truly a lifesaver!
Welcome to the community! Your story about your cousin's medical malpractice settlement and that benefits counselor's incorrect "spend down" advice is so familiar - it's incredible how many families here have gone through this same terrifying experience! I'm really glad you found this thread before making any hasty financial decisions based on that wrong information. A $18,000 settlement is substantial, and your cousin can absolutely keep every penny of it without any worry about her DAC benefits. Those Title II programs truly have zero asset restrictions, which is such a crucial distinction that seems to get lost constantly even among professionals who should know better. It's honestly mind-boggling how widespread this SSI/DAC confusion is among benefits counselors and other people in official positions. Your cousin's settlement money can sit in her bank account, be invested, or used however she sees fit without any impact on her monthly DAC payments. The ABLE account is definitely worth setting up! Even though it's not necessary for DAC purposes, it's great for organizing disability-related expenses and provides that extra layer of protection for any state benefits she might need down the road. Plus, given the size of her settlement, the tax advantages of an ABLE account could be beneficial too. Thank you for sharing your experience - it adds another important voice to this collection of stories that will help other families realize they're not alone in getting incorrect pressure from misinformed professionals. This community really does fill such a vital gap in providing accurate, real-world guidance!
As a newcomer to this community, I just wanted to say how incredibly valuable this entire discussion has been! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my 22-year-old sister who receives DAC benefits, and we recently went through the same panic when she received a car accident settlement. A caseworker at our local SSA office told us she'd have to report it and might lose benefits if it exceeded certain limits. We were terrified and started looking into ways to quickly spend the money before I found this thread and learned that was completely wrong advice! It's such a relief to understand that DAC benefits are Title II (SSDI) with NO asset limits whatsoever. My sister can keep her settlement without any impact on her monthly payments. Reading through everyone's experiences, it seems like this confusion between SSI and DAC/SSDI rules is incredibly common - even among SSA employees themselves! What strikes me most is how many families here have similar stories about getting incorrect information from official sources. It's honestly scary how confidently wrong advice can be given by people who should know these distinctions. The ABLE account suggestions throughout this thread are really helpful too. Even though it's not required for DAC benefits, it sounds like great additional protection for any state benefits. I'm definitely going to help my sister set one up. Thank you all for sharing your real-world experiences so openly - this community is clearly providing the accurate guidance that official channels often fail to deliver. I'll be recommending this resource to other families dealing with similar confusion!
As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for this incredibly enlightening discussion! I'm 63 and have been agonizing over this exact same question for months. My financial planner gave me vague answers, and every time I tried to research it online, I just got more confused by the technical jargon. Reading through all these explanations about how PIA adjustments work with COLA increases has been like a lightbulb moment for me. I had no idea that my future benefits are automatically getting these increases starting at 62, even though I'm not collecting yet. This makes me feel so much more confident about my decision to wait until full retirement age. It's honestly shocking how poorly this crucial information is communicated through official channels - this community provides the clear, practical explanations that people actually need when making these important financial decisions. Looking forward to learning more from all of you!
Welcome to the community, Ravi! I'm also new here and can completely relate to getting vague answers from financial planners - it seems like many of them don't fully understand these COLA nuances either. This thread has been such a revelation for me too! The way everyone has explained how our PIAs are getting those automatic adjustments behind the scenes really puts things into perspective. It's incredible that we're accumulating both the COLA increases AND building up delayed retirement credits by waiting. I wish I had found this community months ago instead of struggling through confusing official documentation. The practical, real-world explanations here are exactly what we need to make informed decisions. Your plan to wait until full retirement age sounds smart - now you can move forward with confidence knowing those COLA increases are working in your favor even while you wait!
As someone who just joined this community, I can't thank everyone enough for this incredibly detailed and reassuring discussion! I'm 65 and have been second-guessing my decision to wait until my full retirement age because I kept seeing all those COLA announcements and wondering if I was somehow "leaving money on the table" by not claiming yet. The way everyone has broken down how PIA adjustments work automatically starting at age 62 has been absolutely eye-opening - I had no clue that my future benefits are actually growing with each COLA increase even though I'm not receiving checks yet. This means my strategy to wait until 67 is actually accumulating both the delayed retirement credits AND all those COLA adjustments! It's amazing how this one thread has provided more practical clarity than months of trying to navigate the SSA website. The technical language on official sites makes this seem so much more complicated than it actually is. Thank you all for creating such a supportive space where people can get real, understandable answers to these critical retirement questions!
ShadowHunter
I went through something very similar when I was 63! The confusion around what counts as "earned income" for Social Security purposes is really common. Everyone here is absolutely right - annuity payments are considered unearned income and won't affect your Social Security benefits at all. The earnings limit only applies to wages from employment or net self-employment income. Since you're just 2 months away from your FRA, you're almost home free anyway! At that point, the earnings test disappears completely and you can have unlimited income from any source without any benefit reductions. One thing I'd suggest is keeping good records of your annuity payments for tax purposes, even though they don't count toward the earnings limit. As someone else mentioned, they could affect the taxability of your Social Security benefits depending on your total income. But that's a separate issue from the earnings test you were worried about. Hang in there - you're so close to FRA and then all these worries will be behind you!
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Madison Allen
•This is so reassuring to hear from everyone who's been through this! I was really losing sleep over potentially losing benefits right before hitting FRA. The whole system seems unnecessarily complicated - they should make it clearer what counts as "earned" vs "unearned" income. Thanks for the encouragement about keeping good records too. I definitely want to stay organized for tax season. Can't wait for those 2 months to pass!
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Elijah Brown
I just wanted to chime in as someone who works in retirement planning - everyone here is absolutely correct that annuity payments do NOT count toward the Social Security earnings limit. The confusion is totally understandable because the SSA's terminology around "earned" vs "unearned" income isn't always crystal clear. The earnings test specifically targets income from active work - W-2 wages, 1099-NEC payments, or net self-employment earnings. Your annuity is considered "unearned income" along with things like pensions, IRA distributions, investment dividends, rental income, etc. None of these affect your Social Security benefits under the earnings test. Since you're only 2 months from FRA, you're practically in the clear anyway! At that point, you could literally win the lottery and it wouldn't impact your SS benefits. The earnings test completely disappears at full retirement age. One small tip: when you do call SSA (whether through regular channels or that Claimyr service someone mentioned), have your annuity contract handy. Sometimes it helps to clarify exactly what type of annuity you have (immediate vs deferred, etc.) just to be thorough, though the answer will be the same regardless. Congratulations on being so close to FRA - you've made it through the trickiest part of the earnings test rules!
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