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As someone who recently went through the Social Security application process, I wanted to share a few additional resources that helped me navigate the earnings limit complexity: The SSA website has a retirement earnings test calculator (though it's pretty basic) that can help you estimate potential benefit reductions. Also, your local SSA field office often has staff who are more knowledgeable about these nuanced situations than the general phone representatives - it might be worth scheduling an in-person appointment if you have a complex earnings situation. One thing I learned is that if you do end up with an overpayment, SSA typically offers several repayment options including having it deducted from future benefits over time, which can be less of a financial shock than a lump sum repayment. The key takeaway from this whole thread seems to be: be proactive about understanding both the annual and monthly earnings test options, keep meticulous records, and don't hesitate to get professional guidance when the rules get complex. Your April start date sounds reasonable given your situation - just make sure you have all the facts before you apply!

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Thank you for mentioning the SSA retirement earnings test calculator and the option of scheduling an in-person appointment at a local field office! I hadn't thought about the fact that local office staff might be more knowledgeable about these complex situations than phone representatives. That's definitely something I'll consider if I need more detailed guidance. It's also reassuring to know about the flexible repayment options if there ever is an overpayment situation - having it deducted from future benefits over time sounds much more manageable than a surprise lump sum bill. Your summary really captures what I've learned from this entire thread: being proactive, keeping detailed records, and not being afraid to ask for help when things get complicated. This community has given me so much confidence about moving forward with my April start date!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm really impressed by the depth of knowledge and willingness to help that everyone has shown in this thread! I'm actually in a very similar situation to the original poster - planning to start Social Security benefits mid-year while continuing part-time work, and I was completely confused about how the earnings limit worked with the timing. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational. I had no idea about the monthly earnings test option for the first year of benefits - that could be a game-changer for people like us who have already earned income before starting benefits. The practical tips about the SSA-777 form, keeping detailed records, and the distinction between when work is performed versus when you're paid are exactly the kind of real-world advice you need but don't always find in official publications. Thank you to everyone who shared their personal experiences, especially those who went through overpayment situations. It's so helpful to know what to expect and how to be proactive about avoiding those problems. This thread has definitely given me the confidence to move forward with my own application process!

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I'm dealing with this exact same frustrating situation right now! My grandmother had about $2,400 taken from her Social Security benefits for an alleged overpayment, and I submitted the SSA-1724 form roughly 4 weeks ago with absolutely zero response from them. What's really helped me after reading through all these comments is learning about the specific strategies - like calling at 7:45-8:00 AM when they open and asking specifically if the form has been "scanned" or "imaged" into their system rather than just asking if they received it. I had no idea these distinctions mattered! The most frustrating part is how they can instantly deduct thousands of dollars but then leave us hanging for months just to get basic acknowledgment of our appeals. My grandmother is 78 and needs that money for her arthritis medications and other essentials. The stress of not knowing what's happening is honestly affecting her sleep and overall health. I'm definitely going to start keeping a detailed call log this week and try the early morning calling strategy. It's infuriating that the system seems designed to wear us down and make us give up, but reading all these success stories here gives me motivation to keep fighting. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone had luck with the online "my Social Security" account for checking status, or is calling really the only way to get information? Also, for those who eventually won their reconsiderations, did you get the full amount back or just partial? Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it really helps to know we're not navigating this broken bureaucracy alone!

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@Dmitry Ivanov I m'so sorry you and your grandmother are dealing with this stressful situation! Four weeks with no response while your 78-year-old grandmother worries about affording her arthritis medications is heartbreaking. It s'completely unacceptable how their broken system causes so much anxiety for vulnerable elderly people who depend on these benefits. To answer your questions - from what I ve'seen in this thread, the online my "Social Security account" sometimes shows pending requests but not consistently. Calling seems to be the most reliable way to get actual status information, which is why everyone emphasizes the early morning calling strategy. Regarding recovery amounts, it looks like most people who won their reconsiderations got back the majority of their money, though some mentioned getting partial "amounts" back. The success stories here are really encouraging even though the process is frustratingly slow. I m'new to dealing with SSA issues but have been following this thread closely because the advice has been so valuable. The fact that we all have to become experts at gaming their phone system just to get basic information about our own cases is ridiculous, but I m'grateful for communities like this where people share what actually works. Keep fighting for your grandmother - she shouldn t'have to choose between her medications and other necessities because of their bureaucratic delays and poor communication. Please keep us updated on how the early morning calling strategy works out for you!

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I'm so sorry you're going through this incredibly frustrating situation! Unfortunately, I'm dealing with something very similar right now - my elderly father had about $2,200 taken from his Social Security benefits for an alleged overpayment, and I submitted the SSA-1724 form about 2 weeks ago with no response yet. Reading through all the advice shared here has been invaluable - I had no idea about strategies like calling right at 7:45-8:00 AM or asking specifically if the form has been "scanned" or "logged" into their system rather than just asking if they received it. It's absolutely ridiculous that we have to become experts at gaming their phone system just to get basic information about our own appeals! What really gets me is how they can instantly take thousands of dollars but then leave us in complete limbo for months just trying to get acknowledgment that they even have our paperwork. My dad is 73 and needs that money for his diabetes medications and other essentials - the stress of uncertainty is really affecting his health. The one thing that gives me hope from reading everyone's experiences is that most people eventually do get their money back, even though the process takes way longer than it should. The system really does seem designed to make people give up, but persistence appears to be key. I'm definitely going to start keeping a detailed call log and try the early morning calling strategy this week. Thank you for posting this and to everyone who has shared their experiences - it helps so much to know we're not fighting this broken bureaucracy alone!

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This thread has been so helpful! I just experienced something similar - got an unexpected $743 deposit two days ago marked "SOC SEC" and have been nervous about what it could be. After reading Lauren's update about the COLA calculation errors, I went back and did some rough math on what my increase should have been since January, and $743 is pretty close to what I think I was underpaid. I also checked my online Social Security account like several people suggested, and there actually WAS a message in my Message Center from last week that I had missed - it mentioned a "benefit adjustment" but wasn't very detailed. I'm still planning to call them tomorrow to get the full explanation, but I feel much more confident now that this is legitimate back pay rather than an error. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences and especially for the warnings about not spending it until confirmed!

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That's great that you found the message in your account! I wish I had thought to check there first before panicking. It sounds like you're in a similar boat as the rest of us with the COLA underpayment situation. When you call tomorrow, maybe you could ask them if they're planning to send out more detailed notices explaining these adjustments? It seems like a lot of people are getting these deposits without clear communication about what they're for upfront. Good luck getting through to them!

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I just got an unexpected $956 deposit yesterday from "US TREASURY SOC SEC" and was completely freaking out about whether it was a mistake. After reading everyone's experiences, especially Lauren's update about the COLA calculation errors, I'm feeling much more relieved. I did the math and that amount is actually pretty close to what I think I was underpaid since the January COLA adjustment. I checked my online Social Security account like several people suggested and found a brief message about a "benefit recalculation" that I had completely missed. I'm still going to call them to get the full details, but knowing that so many others are experiencing the same thing makes me feel like this is probably legitimate back pay rather than an error they'll want back. Thanks everyone for sharing your stories and the great advice about not spending it until confirmed - definitely saving me from potentially making a costly mistake!

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I'm in the exact same situation! Got a $1,127 deposit yesterday and was really worried it was some kind of error. After reading through everyone's experiences here, especially about the COLA calculation issues, I feel so much better. I also went and checked my online account like people suggested and found a message I had missed about a "payment adjustment." It's really reassuring to see so many people getting similar deposits - makes it seem much more likely that this is legitimate back pay rather than a mistake. I'm planning to call SSA tomorrow morning to get confirmation, but at least now I'm not panicking about it. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and especially for the warnings about waiting to spend it until we know for sure what it's for!

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I'm a financial advisor who specializes in disability benefits, and I wanted to add some perspective on the investment and savings opportunities that the increased DAC income could create for your son's long-term financial security. With the jump from $943 to $1,800 monthly, your son would have an extra $857 per month that could potentially be saved or invested through vehicles like ABLE accounts or Special Needs Trusts. ABLE accounts allow up to $17,000 annually in contributions (2024 limit) without affecting benefits, and the funds can grow tax-free when used for qualified disability expenses. Consider this: if your son could save even half of that monthly increase ($428), that's over $5,100 annually that could be building toward future needs like housing modifications, transportation, or emergency expenses. Over 10 years with modest growth, this could create a substantial safety net for his independence. Also, don't overlook the potential impact on your own retirement planning. Knowing that your son will have significantly higher and more stable income from DAC benefits (versus means-tested SSI) should factor into your decisions about your own Social Security timing and retirement accounts. His increased financial independence reduces the pressure on your estate planning as well. The transition involves bureaucratic complexity, but the long-term financial empowerment for your son - and the peace of mind for your family - makes it absolutely worth pursuing. You're setting him up for genuine financial dignity and independence that will last his lifetime!

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This is such valuable financial planning advice! I hadn't thought about the long-term investment opportunities that the increased DAC income could create. The idea that my son could potentially save even half of the monthly increase ($428) is really exciting - over time, that could build into a substantial emergency fund for his future needs. The ABLE account information is particularly helpful. I knew about ABLE accounts but hadn't connected how much more feasible they become with the higher DAC income. Being able to contribute up to $17,000 annually tax-free for qualified disability expenses could be transformative for his long-term financial security. You're also absolutely right about how this affects our own retirement planning. Knowing that my son will have stable, inflation-adjusted DAC benefits rather than means-tested SSI does give us much more confidence about our own financial decisions. It reduces the pressure on our estate planning knowing he'll have that solid foundation of income throughout his life. The perspective about "genuine financial dignity and independence" really resonates with me. This isn't just about getting more money each month - it's about giving my son real choices and autonomy in his life while building long-term security. That makes all the bureaucratic complexity absolutely worth it. Thank you for framing this transition in terms of lifetime financial empowerment rather than just immediate benefit increases. It's helping me see the bigger picture of what we're really accomplishing for his future!

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This financial planning perspective is incredibly helpful and something I hadn't fully considered! As someone new to navigating these benefits, I'm realizing there are so many layers beyond just the immediate income increase. The ABLE account strategy you mentioned sounds like it could be a game-changer - being able to save that extra money tax-free while maintaining benefits eligibility seems like the perfect solution for building long-term security. I'm particularly interested in your point about how this affects overall family financial planning. It's reassuring to know that having my son on more stable DAC benefits rather than means-tested SSI could actually help with our own retirement decisions. The ripple effects of this transition seem to extend far beyond just the monthly payment amount. Your phrase about "genuine financial dignity and independence" really captures what this is all about. It's not just about getting more money - it's about giving him real choices and the ability to plan for his own future. That perspective makes all the paperwork and bureaucratic hurdles feel much more worthwhile. Thank you for sharing this comprehensive financial view - it's helping me understand that we're not just changing benefit programs, we're potentially transforming my son's entire financial trajectory for life!

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I went through this exact situation with my parents last year! My mom was getting around $900 while dad got $2,400, and it turned out she was missing about $300/month in spousal benefits. The key thing that helped us was bringing a printed copy of dad's benefit statement to the SSA office - it showed his PIA clearly, which made it easier for the agent to calculate what mom should be getting. We ended up getting 8 months of back pay (about $2,400 total) because that's when the error started. The whole process took about 6 weeks from when we first called to when the corrected payments started. One tip: if you go to a local office instead of calling, bring both parents if possible. They seemed to process everything faster when both spouses were present to verify the marriage and benefit details. Don't give up on this - the math definitely looks wrong based on what you've shared, and that missing money really adds up over time!

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Thank you so much for sharing your success story! It's really encouraging to hear that you were able to get this resolved and recover 8 months of back pay. The tip about bringing a printed copy of dad's benefit statement is brilliant - having that PIA information readily available probably saved a lot of time and confusion. I think we'll try the local office approach first since you mentioned it was faster with both parents present. Six weeks seems very reasonable for this kind of correction, and $2,400 in back pay shows just how much these "small" monthly differences add up over time. Your experience gives me a lot of hope that we can get this sorted out for my mom. Really appreciate you taking the time to share the details of your process!

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I'm going through something very similar with my grandmother right now! She's been getting around $800 while my grandfather gets $2,100, and we just discovered she's been underpaid for over two years. What really helped us was creating a simple spreadsheet before calling SSA that showed: 1) Grandfather's current benefit amount, 2) What 50% of that should be ($1,050 in his case), and 3) What grandmother is actually receiving. Having those numbers clearly laid out made it much easier to explain the discrepancy to the SSA representative. We also learned that if your parents have been married for more than 10 years and your dad has been receiving benefits for at least 2 years, your mom is definitely eligible for spousal benefits. The representative we finally got (on our 4th call!) told us that sometimes the system doesn't automatically trigger the spousal benefit calculation, especially if there were any data entry errors during the original application process. One more thing - if your mom has a my Social Security account, you can actually see a breakdown of her benefits there. It will show if she's getting any spousal supplement or just her worker benefit. That might give you a clearer picture before you call. Good luck, and don't let them brush you off - this is real money your mom has earned!

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This spreadsheet idea is genius! Having those clear numbers laid out beforehand will definitely help when we talk to SSA. It's frustrating but not surprising that it took you 4 calls to get someone who really knew what they were talking about - that seems to be a common theme in this thread. The point about the system not automatically triggering spousal benefit calculations is really important too. I'm going to help my mom check her online account this weekend to see that breakdown you mentioned. It's encouraging to hear from so many people who have successfully gotten these issues resolved, even if it takes persistence. Thanks for the practical tips and for sharing your ongoing experience!

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