Can my wife claim my full $4,000 Social Security survivor benefit or must she wait until her FRA?
My financial advisor suggested I check into the survivor benefit situation for my wife. I'm currently 66 and receiving $4,000/month in Social Security retirement benefits. My wife is 58 and hasn't claimed any benefits yet. She's planning to work until her full retirement age (67). I've been having some health issues lately that have me concerned. If something happened to me in the next decade or so, would my wife be able to immediately claim my full $4,000 monthly benefit as a survivor benefit? Or would she be forced to wait until she reaches her full retirement age at 67 to get the full amount? I've heard conflicting information about reduced survivor benefits if claimed early versus waiting until FRA. Also, I'm confused about whether her own benefit matters in this situation. She'll have a smaller benefit (around $2,100 at her FRA) based on her own work history. Does that impact what she can get as a widow? Any clear explanation would be helpful.
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Jamal Harris
Your wife can claim survivor benefits as early as age 60, but she would receive a reduced amount if claimed before her FRA. At age 60, she'd get approximately 71.5% of your $4,000, which would be about $2,860/month. This increases gradually until her FRA when she'd get the full $4,000. As for her own retirement benefit, she can actually switch between benefits. Many widows don't realize this strategy: she could take reduced survivor benefits at 60, then switch to her own benefit at 70 if it's grown larger through delayed retirement credits. Or take her own reduced retirement benefit at 62 and switch to full survivor benefits at her FRA. The SSA doesn't always explain these options clearly, so make sure she gets a thorough benefits analysis before making any decisions.
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Zoe Stavros
•Thanks for the detailed explanation. So if I'm understanding correctly, she has options but will face a reduction if she claims survivor benefits before 67. Do survivor benefits also earn delayed retirement credits if she waits past her FRA to claim them?
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Mei Chen
when my husband passed i was 63 and got 78% of his benefit. they told me i couldnt wait til my FRA for the full amount, i had to take it right away or lose it completely!! was i given wrong info?? this was 2 years ago
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Jamal Harris
•Yes, you were given incorrect information. Widows/widowers can claim survivor benefits anytime between age 60 and their FRA, with a reduction for early claiming. You absolutely CAN wait until your FRA to get 100% of your late spouse's benefit. The SSA representatives sometimes provide incorrect information. If you were forced to take reduced benefits, you should contact SSA immediately to see if they can correct this error.
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Liam Sullivan
Sorry about your health concerns. My mom just went through this last year when my dad died. The funeral home actually notified Social Security. Then mom had to go to the SS office with their marriage certificate, his death certificate, and her ID. She was already past FRA so she got his full amount since it was higher than hers. They did reduce her payment for the first month though for some reason I didn't understand.
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Zoe Stavros
•Thanks for sharing your mom's experience. Did she have to wait long for the switch to happen? I've heard the process can take a while, which makes me worry about my wife having income gap issues if something happens.
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Amara Okafor
To directly answer your question: No, your wife does NOT have to wait until her FRA to collect survivor benefits, but she WILL receive a reduced amount if claimed before her FRA. Survivor benefits can be claimed as early as age 60 with a reduction of approximately 28.5% at that age, gradually decreasing as she approaches her FRA. At her FRA, she would receive 100% of your $4,000 benefit. Important points: 1. Survivor benefits do NOT earn delayed retirement credits past FRA (unlike retirement benefits) 2. She can switch between her own retirement benefit and the survivor benefit 3. If she's still working when claiming before her FRA, the earnings test may reduce her benefits temporarily This is definitely a situation where careful planning can make a significant difference in lifetime benefits.
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Zoe Stavros
•Thank you for clarifying that survivor benefits don't earn delayed credits past FRA. That's important to know. So it sounds like the optimal strategy would be for her to claim whichever benefit is lower first, then switch to the higher one later?
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CosmicCommander
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Giovanni Colombo
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CosmicCommander
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
I think everybody's missing something important here - survivors benefits are completely different than retirement!! My sister-in-law got reduced benefits because she claimed at 60 and it's PERMANENT. She can't switch to full benefits later like someone said above. Once you claim survivor benefits early, you're STUCK with that reduced amount FOREVER!!!!
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Amara Okafor
•That's not accurate. Your sister-in-law's survivor benefit was reduced because she claimed before her FRA, but that doesn't prevent her from switching to her own retirement benefit later if it would be higher. The reduction is permanent for that particular benefit, but she still has options to switch. There are two separate benefits: survivor benefits and retirement benefits based on her own work record. Each has its own rules. The early claiming reduction is permanent for whichever benefit is claimed early, but she can still switch between them to maximize her total benefits over time.
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Giovanni Colombo
Just wanted to add - make sure your wife knows exactly what paperwork she'll need if something happens. My mom had to provide: death certificate (certified copy), marriage certificate, both their Social Security cards, birth certificate, and photo ID. The SSA website lists everything but having it all ready saved her a second trip. Also tell her she should apply in the month of death - they don't pay benefits retroactively beyond a certain point.
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Zoe Stavros
•That's extremely helpful, thank you. I'll make sure we have all those documents organized and accessible. Would you recommend keeping physical copies together in a specific place, or are digital copies sufficient for the SSA?
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Jamal Harris
To answer your follow-up question about optimal strategy: Generally, yes - claiming the lower benefit first then switching to the higher one later can maximize lifetime benefits. For example, if your wife's own benefit at age 70 would be higher than your survivor benefit (unlikely with the numbers you provided, but possible for others), she could take reduced survivor benefits at 60, then switch to her own maximized benefit at 70. More commonly for couples with disparate earnings like yours, she might take her own reduced retirement benefit at 62, then switch to the full survivor benefit at her FRA. The optimal approach depends on: 1. Both benefit amounts 2. Her life expectancy 3. Whether she's still working (earnings test) 4. Any other income sources during potential gap years The SSA won't automatically tell her about these strategies, so it's good you're researching now.
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Mei Chen
•this is so confusing!! i wish the SSA would just TELL you what the best option is instead of making you figure it out yourself. i bet most widows leave money on the table because we don't know all these rules
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