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I just want to echo what others have said about being proactive with follow-up. I went through this process last year and the automatic recalculation did work, but it took almost 10 months to see the adjustment. One thing I'd add that I haven't seen mentioned yet: when you're reporting your 2024 earnings in the application, make sure you also note any bonuses or overtime pay you received that year. Sometimes people forget to include these when estimating their annual earnings, but they can make a meaningful difference in your benefit calculation. Also, if you do decide to wait until your 2024 earnings show up in the system naturally, keep in mind that this typically happens after tax season when employers submit their W-2 data. So you might be looking at waiting until summer or even fall of 2025 for it to appear on your record organically. Given your August FRA date, filing sooner rather than later and then following up on the recalculation seems like the smarter move to me. You'll start receiving benefits and can always advocate for the adjustment once your 2024 data is processed.

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This is such valuable advice about including bonuses and overtime! I actually did receive a year-end bonus in December that I almost forgot about - that's definitely going into my earnings estimate when I file. Your point about waiting until summer/fall 2025 for the earnings to appear naturally really puts things in perspective. That would mean delaying benefits for potentially 6+ months just to avoid having to follow up on a recalculation. When you put it that way, filing now and being proactive about the follow-up process seems like the obvious choice. I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward with my application after reading everyone's experiences here. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge and helping me understand what to expect!

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I work for a local SSA office and can confirm that yes, we do include current year earnings even when they haven't posted to your record yet. When you file your application, there's a specific section where you'll report your 2024 earnings - make sure you're as accurate as possible with that number. The recalculation process is automatic once your W-2 data gets processed into our system (usually by late spring/early summer of the following year), but I always recommend people follow up if they don't see an adjustment by fall. Sometimes the automated recalculation gets stuck and needs a manual review. Given your situation with the lower earnings from 2018-2020, your $87,000 from 2024 will definitely help your benefit calculation since it will replace one of those lower years in your highest 35 years of earnings. Don't delay filing if you need the income - just keep good records and be prepared to follow up if needed.

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Mei Liu

Andre, I just wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful for your situation. Since you mentioned mortgage payments as part of your decision to take early benefits, make sure you factor in that Social Security benefits may be partially taxable depending on your total income. If you have other income sources (pension, part-time work, investment income, etc.), up to 85% of your Social Security benefits could be subject to federal income tax. The thresholds are pretty low - for single filers, if your combined income is over $25,000, some of your benefits become taxable. This doesn't mean you shouldn't take early benefits - just something to plan for when budgeting with your reduced benefit amount. You might want to have a little extra set aside for taxes or adjust your withholding if you have other income. Also, since several people mentioned the mySocialSecurity account - if you haven't logged in recently, I'd recommend checking it now to make sure all your personal information is current (address, phone number, etc.). It'll save time when you're ready to apply in September. The 4-month advance timeline everyone's mentioned is definitely the way to go based on all the experiences shared here. You're really smart to start planning this early!

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That's a really important point about the tax implications that I hadn't fully considered! I do have a small pension that will kick in, so I'll definitely need to factor in potential taxes on my Social Security benefits. Thanks for mentioning the income thresholds - I'll need to calculate my total expected income to see where I might fall. I just logged into my mySocialSecurity account and you're right, it's good to double-check everything is current before applying. My address was actually outdated from a move two years ago, so I'm glad I checked now rather than discovering that issue during the application process in September!

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Nina Chan

Hi Andre! I just wanted to add something that might help with your timeline planning. I applied exactly 4 months early like everyone's recommending, but what really made the difference was being super organized with my paperwork beforehand. Here's my suggestion: Start gathering your documents NOW, even though you won't apply until September. You'll need your birth certificate, Social Security card, bank information for direct deposit, recent tax returns, and W-2s from the last couple years. Having everything ready in a folder will make the actual application process much smoother. Also, I noticed you mentioned trying to call SSA with no luck. If you do need to speak with someone before applying, try calling your local field office directly rather than the national number. You can find your local office on the SSA website - they often have much shorter wait times. One last thing - when you do apply in September, make absolutely sure you select January 2025 as your benefit START month, not your application month. This is different from when you're submitting the application and confuses a lot of people. You're being really smart to plan this far ahead. With your health situation factored in, taking benefits at 62 sounds like the right decision for your circumstances. Good luck with everything!

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive advice I was hoping to get! Starting to gather documents now is such a smart suggestion - I can already tell that having everything organized in advance will save me stress later. I'm definitely going to create a dedicated folder with all the required paperwork over the next few weeks. The tip about calling local field offices instead of the national number is also really valuable - I had no idea that was an option and it explains why I've had such trouble getting through. I'll look up my local office info right away. Thanks for emphasizing the benefit start month selection too - after reading everyone's experiences, I can see how that's a common point of confusion that I want to avoid. I really appreciate you and everyone else taking the time to share such detailed, practical advice. This thread has been incredibly helpful for planning my application timeline and approach!

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I'm 63 and have been on SSDI for about 5 years now. This thread is exactly what I needed to read! I've been worrying about this conversion for months, especially after hearing different stories from friends and reading confusing information online. What really gives me confidence is how absolutely consistent everyone's experience has been - automatic conversion at FRA, same exact payment amount, just an internal reclassification by SSA. The fact that so many people describe the identical smooth process really shows this is how it actually works, not just how it's supposed to work. I'm particularly relieved to know that Medicare continues unchanged and that I don't need to do anything on my end. The notification letter timeline (about 6 weeks before FRA) is also really helpful to know in advance. My FRA is 67, so I have about 4 years to go, but now I can budget with complete confidence that my current SSDI amount will continue unchanged. This thread has been a goldmine of real-world information - thank you to everyone who shared their personal experiences! It's so much more valuable than trying to navigate the official SSA website.

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I completely understand that relief you're feeling! As someone who's newer to both SSDI and this community, reading through this entire thread has been like finding a treasure trove of practical information that you just can't get anywhere else. What strikes me most is exactly what you mentioned - the absolute consistency in everyone's experience. When you see person after person describing the identical smooth, automatic process with unchanged payment amounts, it really builds confidence that this is genuinely how the system works. No bureaucratic surprises or hidden complications. The 4-year timeline you have gives you such a great advantage for financial planning. Knowing with certainty that your current SSDI payment will continue unchanged through the conversion removes so much uncertainty from long-term budgeting. That peace of mind is invaluable! I'm also really grateful for all the practical details people have shared - like the 6-week notification timeline and keeping that letter for documentation. These real-world tips make all the difference in knowing what to actually expect. This thread has become my go-to resource for understanding this important transition!

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This thread has been such an incredible resource! I'm 59 and have been receiving SSDI for about 14 months now, and I had the exact same concerns as @Ella Thompson about what happens at FRA. Reading through everyone's consistent experiences has completely put my mind at ease. The fact that literally every single person who's been through this conversion describes the identical process - automatic at FRA, same payment amount, just a simple reclassification - gives me total confidence in planning my finances for the next 8 years. I was especially worried about potential benefit reductions or having to navigate complicated paperwork, but knowing that SSA handles everything automatically and just sends a notification letter makes this seem so much less daunting. The tip about keeping that letter for documentation purposes is brilliant too! What really stands out to me is how this community has turned one person's question into such a comprehensive guide that's helping so many of us understand this important transition. The real-world experiences shared here are worth more than all the confusing government websites combined. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their stories - you've helped more people plan for their futures than you probably realize!

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I'm so glad I found this discussion! As someone who's completely new to SSDI (I just started receiving benefits last month), I had no idea about any of this conversion process at retirement age. Reading through everyone's experiences has been incredibly educational and reassuring. What gives me the most confidence is seeing how every single person describes the exact same smooth, automatic process. It's clear that despite how overwhelming the SSA system can feel when you're new to it, this particular transition is very well-established and reliable. I'm still years away from my FRA, but knowing now that I can budget with certainty that my current payment will continue unchanged takes away so much anxiety about long-term financial planning. The practical tips everyone has shared - especially about keeping the notification letter and the 6-week timeline - are exactly the kind of real-world details that make all the difference. Thank you @Ella Thompson for asking the question that started this amazing resource, and thanks to everyone who shared their personal experiences. This kind of community support is invaluable for those of us just starting to navigate these complex systems!

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Confused about Family Maximum Benefit (FMB) distribution among child, disabled adult child, and CIC - SS benefits don't match expectations

I started collecting my retirement benefits early at 62 back in October 2024. My Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) is $3,250 and the SSA told me my Family Maximum Benefit (FMB) is $6,085. I've got three family members who qualify for benefits on my record: 1. My 18-year-old son who's finishing his senior year of high school 2. My 30-year-old daughter who has a disability and just transitioned from SSI to Disabled Adult Child (DAC) benefits 3. My wife who qualifies as a parent with a Child-in-Care (CIC) because she takes care of our disabled daughter We submitted all the applications, and supposedly everything's been approved. But the award letters we got look nothing like what the SSA rep told us to expect! I've called multiple times but keep getting disconnected or transferred to people who can't answer my questions. Can anyone please explain: 1. What exactly is my "Auxiliary Benefit" total and how is it calculated? 2. Are my family members' payments calculated from the Auxiliary Benefit or the FMB? 3. Should my three beneficiaries receive equal payments, or is there a formula for how it's split? 4. Based on my PIA and FMB, what should the total monthly amount be for all three of them combined? 5. After my son graduates high school this spring and is no longer eligible, how will the benefit amounts change for my wife and disabled daughter? I'm completely lost trying to make sense of these benefit calculations, and the SSA hasn't been any help. Thanks in advance for any insights!

I'm a newcomer to this community but have been dealing with Social Security for years as a benefits counselor, and I wanted to add some perspective on your situation. One critical point that hasn't been fully addressed is that your Family Maximum Benefit calculation might actually be wrong from the start. The FMB formula is complex and based on "bend points" that change annually. For someone with a PIA of $3,250, an FMB of $6,085 seems unusually low - you might want to ask them to recalculate the FMB itself, not just the distribution. Also, regarding your disabled daughter's DAC benefits - there's a special rule called the "combined Family Maximum" that applies when someone is receiving DAC benefits on a living parent's record. This can sometimes result in a higher overall family maximum than the standard calculation, especially if your daughter had significant work history before becoming disabled. I'd strongly recommend asking the Technical Expert to verify: 1. That your FMB was calculated using the correct bend points for 2024 2. Whether the Combined Family Maximum rule applies to your daughter's DAC benefits 3. If the "Child Disability Freeze" provisions affect any of the calculations These technical details are often overlooked but can significantly impact benefit amounts. The fact that multiple representatives have given you conflicting information suggests they're not applying the more complex rules that might apply to your specific situation. Don't accept "that's just how it's calculated" as an answer - demand to see the actual mathematical computation with the specific rules and bend points they used.

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Welcome to the community, Olivia! Your expertise as a benefits counselor is incredibly valuable here. The point about the FMB potentially being calculated incorrectly from the start is eye-opening - I never thought to question that base number, but you're absolutely right that $6,085 seems low for a PIA of $3,250. The "Combined Family Maximum" rule for DAC benefits is something I've never heard mentioned before, and it could be a game-changer for our situation. Given that my daughter had been working part-time before her disability worsened, this might definitely apply. I'm adding all three of your verification points to my list for the Technical Expert: 1. FMB calculation with correct 2024 bend points 2. Combined Family Maximum rule applicability 3. Child Disability Freeze provisions Your point about not accepting vague answers really resonates - I think I've been too passive in accepting their explanations when I should be demanding to see the actual mathematical breakdown. This gives me a much stronger foundation for advocating for accurate calculations. Thank you for bringing your professional perspective to this discussion. It's clear there are multiple layers of complexity that the regular SSA reps simply aren't equipped to handle properly.

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Welcome to the community! I'm new here but have been lurking and reading about similar situations. Your case sounds incredibly frustrating but also really educational for those of us trying to understand these complex benefit calculations. After reading through all the excellent advice in this thread, it's clear you've gotten some really solid guidance about specific documents to request and technical rules that might apply. The fact that you have three different types of beneficiaries (child student, DAC, and CIC) plus the SSI transition timing issues creates a perfect storm of complexity. One small thing I wanted to add - when you do get that face-to-face appointment with a Technical Expert, consider bringing printed copies of some of the key POMS sections that others mentioned (like RS 00615.020). Having the actual policy language with you can be helpful if you encounter any pushback or confusion during the appointment. Also, based on Olivia's point about the FMB potentially being calculated incorrectly, it might be worth asking them to show you the actual bend point formula they used. If your base Family Maximum is wrong, then all the downstream calculations for your family members would be wrong too, which could explain why nothing seems to add up correctly. Really hoping you get this resolved soon - please keep us updated on how your appointment goes! This thread has been incredibly informative for understanding family maximum benefit calculations.

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Thank you for the warm welcome and the great suggestion about bringing printed POMS sections! That's a really smart idea - having the actual policy language could definitely help if there's any confusion or pushback during the appointment. You're absolutely right that Olivia's point about the FMB calculation being potentially wrong from the start could be the key to solving this whole puzzle. If the base Family Maximum of $6,085 is incorrect, then no wonder all the individual benefit amounts don't make sense. I'll definitely ask to see the actual bend point formula they used - that could be the smoking gun that explains everything. The combination of three different beneficiary types plus the SSI transition timing really does seem like a perfect storm. I'm feeling much more prepared now though, thanks to all the detailed advice from everyone in this thread. Having specific document names, POMS sections, and technical rules to reference should make a huge difference. I'll definitely keep everyone posted on how the appointment goes. This community has been incredibly helpful - I went from being completely confused to having a clear action plan with specific questions to ask. Fingers crossed we can get this sorted out once and for all!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Chloe. Losing both parents within such a short time must be incredibly difficult to process, and I can completely understand why you'd have concerns about protecting your financial security during this overwhelming period. I wanted to add my voice to everyone else's reassurance - your inheritance will absolutely not affect your Social Security retirement benefits. As someone who works in estate planning, I see this question come up frequently, and the answer is always the same: inheritances are considered "unearned income" by Social Security and don't count toward the annual earnings test that applies to early retirees. Only wages from employment or self-employment income count as "earned income" for those calculations. You can receive your full $137,000 share without any worry about benefit reductions. One practical suggestion: when you meet with the real estate attorney for the house sale, ask them to ensure the closing documents clearly identify the proceeds as inheritance distribution. This won't be necessary for Social Security purposes, but having clean documentation makes everything easier down the line. Focus on taking care of yourself and your siblings during this transition - the financial side is one less burden you need to carry right now.

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Evan, thank you for providing that professional perspective from estate planning - it really adds another layer of credibility to all the reassurance everyone has been giving. Your suggestion about asking the real estate attorney to ensure the closing documents clearly identify the proceeds as inheritance distribution is excellent advice. Even though it's not required for Social Security purposes, having that clean documentation from the start just makes good sense. As someone new to this community, I'm really impressed by how many different professionals and people with personal experience have come together to help answer Chloe's question so thoroughly. It's clear that inheritances and Social Security retirement benefits are completely separate issues, and seeing all these real-world examples really drives that point home. Thank you for taking the time to share your expertise!

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I'm so deeply sorry for your loss, Chloe. Losing both parents within a year is an unimaginable heartbreak, and dealing with estate matters while grieving adds such an overwhelming burden. I wanted to add my reassurance to what everyone else has shared - your inheritance will absolutely not affect your Social Security retirement benefits in any way. I went through a very similar situation when my mother passed and left me proceeds from her home sale (around $95,000). I was also collecting early retirement benefits at 64 and was terrified it would impact my monthly payments. But as everyone here has correctly explained, Social Security only considers "earned income" (wages, salary, self-employment) when applying the annual earnings test. Inheritances are classified as "unearned income" and are completely exempt from this calculation. Your $137,000 inheritance is yours to receive without any worry about benefit reductions. One thing that helped me during that difficult time was creating a simple file folder for all the estate paperwork - not because Social Security needed it, but because staying organized gave me a small sense of control during such a chaotic period. Please take care of yourself and lean on your siblings for support. You have enough to process right now without worrying about your Social Security benefits - that's one stress you can completely let go of.

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