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Sadie Benitez

How to apply for Social Security spousal benefits boost after already receiving for years?

I'm completely confused about this 'spousal excess' benefit I keep hearing about online. I started collecting my Social Security at 62 (about $1,850/month currently) and my husband has been on his benefits since 65 (he gets around $3,100/month). We're both now 72, well past our FRA. Only yesterday my neighbor mentioned I might qualify for additional money as a spouse, but I never heard a word about this from SSA when I applied! Do I need to do something special to apply for this 'top up' amount? How would I even know if I qualify? The benefit calculations I found online are giving me a headache - percentages and PIAs and all sorts of things I don't understand. Has anyone gone through this process recently who can explain it in plain English? Appreciate any help!

Drew Hathaway

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Yes, this is something many people don't realize! The spousal benefit can sometimes provide a higher payment than your own retirement benefit. Since you're already receiving benefits and are past FRA, you should contact Social Security to see if you qualify for the "excess spousal benefit" - which is essentially the difference between your current benefit and up to 50% of your husband's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). The basic formula is: If 50% of your spouse's PIA is higher than your own benefit amount, you could be eligible for the difference. For example, if 50% of your husband's PIA is $1,550, but your benefit is $1,850, you wouldn't qualify because your own benefit is already higher. But if 50% of his PIA was $2,000, you might be eligible for a $150 boost.

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Sadie Benitez

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Thank you for explaining that much more clearly! So it's based on 50% of his PIA, not 50% of what he actually receives monthly? Is the PIA the amount he would have gotten at his FRA? And do I need to make an appointment or can I just call SSA to ask about this?

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Laila Prince

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my sister went thru this last yr... she got an extra $237/mo added to her check after she asked about it!! nobody tells you this stuff, you have to ASK them about it specifically!!!

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Sadie Benitez

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That's exactly my concern! Why wouldn't they automatically tell people about this? Did your sister have to provide any special documentation when she applied for it?

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Isabel Vega

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This is actually a fairly straightforward process, but SSA representatives should have explained it when you initially filed. The spousal benefit calculation is based on your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is the benefit amount he would receive at his full retirement age - not what he's currently getting with any delayed retirement credits. If half of his PIA exceeds your own retirement benefit, you'd be entitled to an amount that would bring your total up to that 50% threshold. Since you've been collecting your own benefit for 10 years, any increase would be paid as a combination benefit. To apply, call SSA directly at 1-800-772-1213 and request a review for potential spousal benefits. Be prepared with both your SSNs and possibly your marriage certificate. Since you're already receiving benefits, this would be processed as an adjustment rather than a new application.

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Laila Prince

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good luck calling that number!!! i tried for 3 WEEKS and never got through, kept getting disconnected after waiting 2+ hours!!!

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After reading about this same issue last month, I tried calling SSA about my own situation. Gave up after being on hold for 1.5 hours and then getting disconnected! So frustrating. Finally found a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. The agent confirmed I was eligible for extra spousal benefits and processed it right away. Wish I'd known about this years ago!

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Marilyn Dixon

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The SSA phone system is absolute GARBAGE!!! They've been "upgrading" it for years and it's somehow WORSE now than before. I'll check out that service - I've wasted entire DAYS trying to get through about my husband's disability benefits. Did you have to wait long after talking to them for the extra amount to show up in your checks?

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I'm in almost the same boat as you! Been collecting my own SS since 62, husband has higher benefit, and we just found out about this "excess spousal" thing from our tax guy of all people. I'm confused though - does this mean I could have been getting more money all these years??? Will they pay me the back payments I should have gotten????

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Isabel Vega

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Unfortunately, retroactive payments for spousal benefits are generally limited to 6 months maximum from the date you file for them. The SSA operates under the assumption that it's your responsibility to know what benefits you're eligible for and apply accordingly. This is one reason why getting professional guidance when initially filing can be so valuable.

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TommyKapitz

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my understanding is if you started taking SSI at 62 you get a reduced amount permanently so thats probably why you didnt qualify for spousal at that time. but now that your both past retirement they recalculate it i think. good luck with the whole thing, everything with ssa takes forever these days.

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Drew Hathaway

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Just a quick clarification - you're likely referring to Social Security retirement benefits (SSDI), not SSI. SSI is Supplemental Security Income, which is needs-based and entirely different. The reduced benefit from claiming early does continue, but spousal benefits are still calculated based on that reduced amount compared to 50% of the spouse's PIA. The recalculation doesn't happen automatically when reaching FRA - you need to request it.

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Sadie Benitez

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Thank you all for the helpful information! I called SSA this morning but couldn't get through - kept getting a busy signal. I'll try again tomorrow, and maybe look into that Claimyr service if I keep having trouble. It's really frustrating that these benefits aren't automatic. I'll report back what I find out about my specific situation!

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Good luck! Also, when you do talk to them, make sure to specifically ask about the "excess spousal benefit" by name. Sometimes if you're not using the exact terminology, the representatives might not fully understand what you're asking about. And have your husband's SSN handy - they'll need it to check his PIA.

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Drew Hathaway

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One more important thing to understand about spousal benefits: if your husband took his benefits early (before his FRA), his PIA is still based on his full retirement age amount. So even if he took a reduction by claiming early, the 50% spousal benefit calculation still uses his full PIA amount. Conversely, if he delayed claiming past his FRA and earned delayed retirement credits, those extra increases DON'T factor into your spousal benefit calculation. It's always based on 50% of his PIA at his full retirement age, regardless of when he actually started receiving benefits. This is why the actual math can get confusing, but the SSA should be able to perform this calculation for you once you reach them.

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Sadie Benitez

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That makes more sense now. My husband started his benefits at exactly 65, which was his FRA (he was born in 1952). So I guess they would use his actual benefit amount as the PIA for calculating my potential spousal excess. I just wish I'd known about this years ago!

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HAS ANYONE HAD SUCCESS getting retroactive payments for more than 6 months? This seems so unfair that they don't tell us about benefits we're entitled to!

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Laila Prince

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my cousin said she got back pay for a full year but i think she had to file some kind of appeal or something. don't know the details sorry

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Isabel Vega

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Just to clear up a common misconception I'm seeing in this thread: The 6-month retroactive limit applies specifically to retirement and spousal benefits when filed after Full Retirement Age. For disability benefits (SSDI), retroactive benefits can go back up to 12 months from the application date. There are very few exceptions to these limits, even with appeals. The Social Security Administration operates under the assumption that beneficiaries are responsible for knowing and applying for benefits they're entitled to. If you find yourself in a situation where you believe you should have been receiving a higher benefit for years, you can request a formal appeal, but success is rare unless there was a clear SSA administrative error involved in your case.

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Marilyn Dixon

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THIS is exactly why the system is broken!! How can they expect regular people to understand all these complicated rules?? My mother lost out on THOUSANDS because nobody at SSA bothered to tell her about widow's benefits when my father died. The whole thing is designed to confuse people so they don't claim everything they deserve!!

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Just wanted to share my experience with this. I was in a similar situation last year. My husband's benefit was much higher than mine, and I discovered I was eligible for additional spousal benefits. After I applied, it took about 2-3 weeks for the adjustment to show up in my bank account. The extra amount wasn't huge (about $320 per month), but it certainly helped with rising grocery prices! They only gave me 4 months of back pay though.

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Sadie Benitez

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Thank you for sharing this! I'm hoping I might be eligible for something similar. Every bit helps these days with inflation being what it is. Did you have to provide any documentation when you applied for the spousal excess?

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Ellie Lopez

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They just needed my marriage certificate and my husband's Social Security number when I called. I had to verify some basic information about both of our work histories, but nothing too complicated. The representative was actually very helpful once I got through - she explained that since I was already in their system receiving my own benefits, it was just a matter of running the calculation to see if I qualified for the spousal excess. Make sure you have your husband's SSN ready when you call!

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Omar Hassan

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I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago! Like you, I had no idea about spousal benefits when I first applied. Here's what I learned: You definitely need to call and specifically ask about "excess spousal benefits" - they won't automatically check for you. The key thing is that it's based on 50% of your husband's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), which is what he would have gotten at his full retirement age. Since his benefit is around $3,100, his PIA is probably in that ballpark too. So 50% would be roughly $1,550. Since your benefit is $1,850, you probably won't qualify for additional spousal benefits because your own benefit is already higher than 50% of his PIA. But definitely still call to verify - sometimes the actual PIA calculations can be different than what people are currently receiving, especially if there were delayed retirement credits involved. I used the Claimyr service that someone else mentioned because I couldn't get through the regular SSA line, and it was worth every penny to avoid the endless hold times!

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Abigail Spencer

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This is really helpful, thank you! I hadn't thought about the delayed retirement credits potentially affecting the calculation. My husband did start collecting right at his FRA, so his current benefit should be pretty close to his PIA. Based on what you're saying about the $1,550 threshold, it sounds like I might not qualify since I'm already getting $1,850. But you're absolutely right that I should still call to verify - maybe there are other factors I'm not considering. I'll definitely look into that Claimyr service if I keep having trouble getting through to SSA directly!

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LunarLegend

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I'm a Social Security representative and wanted to clarify a few things I'm seeing in this discussion. First, you absolutely should call to request a spousal benefit review - this isn't something we automatically process when someone is already receiving their own retirement benefits. The calculation is indeed based on 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), not his current monthly payment. Since he started at his Full Retirement Age, his current benefit should equal his PIA. With his $3,100 monthly benefit, 50% would be $1,550. Given that your current benefit is $1,850, you likely won't qualify for additional spousal benefits since your own benefit exceeds that 50% threshold. However, I still recommend calling because there can be nuances in the calculation based on your specific work history and benefit computation. When you call 1-800-772-1213, ask specifically for a "spousal benefit eligibility review" and have both Social Security numbers ready. The best times to call are typically Tuesday-Thursday between 10 AM-2 PM to avoid peak volume times. Regarding retroactive payments, the maximum is 6 months from your application date for retirement/spousal benefits, and this policy is strictly enforced except in cases of clear administrative error on our part.

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