Will I get higher spousal benefits if I claimed my SS early but my husband has much higher earnings?
I'm completely lost trying to figure out spousal benefits! I started collecting my Social Security at 62 (I know, probably a mistake) because I needed the income after some health issues. I'm 68 now, and my monthly check is only $1,580. My husband is 69 and planning to file for his benefits next month. Based on his earnings history as an engineer, his benefit will be around $3,400 per month. I've heard conflicting things about whether I can get some of his higher benefit since I took mine early. Someone told me I'm permanently reduced to only getting like 30% of his amount because I filed before my FRA. Is that right? Does this mean the total I'd get between my own benefit and the spousal portion can't exceed 30% of his benefit? I'm so confused about how this calculation works! Would appreciate if anyone who's been through this could explain in plain English what I might qualify for. Do I need to contact SSA directly to apply for the spousal benefit once he files?
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Zainab Omar
The 30% figure isn't quite right. When you claim spousal benefits after claiming your own benefits early, you can still receive up to 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), but that amount will be reduced by your early filing penalty. Here's how it works: After your husband files, the SSA will calculate the difference between your benefit at Full Retirement Age (before reduction for early filing) and 50% of his PIA. You'll get that difference as your spousal add-on, but reduced because you filed early. For example, if your FRA benefit before reduction was $1,800, and 50% of his PIA is $1,700, you wouldn't get any spousal add-on (because your benefit is already higher). But if your FRA benefit was $1,500 and 50% of his PIA is $1,700, you'd get a $200 difference, reduced for early filing. The SSA will automatically calculate this when your husband files - you don't need to file a separate application.
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QuantumQuasar
•Thank you for explaining! So just to make sure I understand - I'll still get my own reduced benefit of $1,580, plus potentially some additional amount based on his record? I thought maybe I'd have to choose between mine or the spousal benefit. And they'll just automatically add it to my payment after he files? That would be wonderful if I could get a little boost to my monthly check!
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Connor Gallagher
My wife went thru this last yr. She also took her SS at 62 and I waited till 70. When I filed they gave her an extra $210 on top of her check automatically. We didn't have to do anything. But the lady at SS told us it all depends on your earnings history.
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QuantumQuasar
•That's really helpful to hear a real example! Did they notify your wife somehow that she'd be getting the extra amount, or did it just show up in her direct deposit? I'm hoping I might get at least a small increase like that too.
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Yara Sayegh
The whole spousal benefit thing is SO CONFUSING!!! I've been trying to figure it out for months. I'm in a similar boat except I haven't filed yet (I'm 63). My husband gets $3,100 and when I called SSA they said something completely different from what others told me. They said I should wait until my FRA to get the full 50% but online calculators show something else and I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE anymore!!! The SSA website explanation might as well be written in another language.
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Keisha Johnson
•What you're experiencing is a common misunderstanding that happens when discussing spousal benefits. There are two different scenarios: 1. If you ONLY claim spousal benefits (and never worked), waiting until FRA gets you 50% of your spouse's PIA. 2. If you qualify for your own benefit AND spousal (like the original poster), it's more complex. You're actually claiming your own benefit, then getting a spousal add-on if 50% of your spouse's PIA exceeds your own benefit amount. This distinction is why you're getting conflicting information. Online calculators sometimes don't handle these nuances well, especially the deemed filing rules that changed in 2015.
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Paolo Longo
I've helped dozens of people navigate this exact situation. You're getting a reduced benefit because you filed at 62, but you can still get a spousal supplement. Here's what happens: 1. SSA will compare your PIA (what you'd get at FRA WITHOUT early reduction) to 50% of your husband's PIA 2. If 50% of his PIA is higher, you get the difference added to your check 3. That difference gets reduced because you claimed early Based on your numbers, if your husband's benefit is $3,400, his PIA is probably around $2,800 (assuming he delayed to 69). So 50% would be $1,400. If your reduced benefit is $1,580, your PIA before reduction was probably around $2,050. Since that exceeds 50% of his PIA, you might not get any spousal add-on at all. You should absolutely contact SSA once your husband files to verify, but don't get your hopes up for a big increase based on these numbers.
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QuantumQuasar
•Oh, I see. That makes sense but it's disappointing. I thought I might get a bigger bump in benefits. I think my PIA before reduction was somewhere around $2,000, so it sounds like I might not qualify for much. I'll definitely call SSA after my husband files to check though.
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CosmicCowboy
Have you tried calling SSA directly? I spent 3 HOURS on hold last week trying to ask about my disability benefits!!! Finally gave up. Honestly their phone system is a joke.
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Amina Diallo
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QuantumQuasar
•Thanks for the suggestion! I haven't called yet since my husband hasn't filed, but I was dreading it. I'll definitely look into that service if I run into trouble getting through when the time comes. The last time I tried calling about something else, I gave up after being on hold forever.
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Connor Gallagher
btw I think ur smart for taking it at 62… my wife got 6 years of payments before i even started getting mine and shes GLAD she did even if its less per month. everyone acts like waiting is always better but it depends on ur situtation
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QuantumQuasar
•That's kind of you to say! I sometimes regret taking it early since the amount is so low, but I really did need it at the time for medical bills. And you're right - I've already collected 6 years of benefits that I wouldn't have received if I'd waited. I guess it all depends on individual circumstances.
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Yara Sayegh
Does anyone know if they will send a letter explaining the spousal benefit amount? Or do you just see it when your deposit is suddenly higher? I'm trying to budget for when my husband files next year and don't want to count on money that might not come!
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Zainab Omar
•Yes, SSA will send you a notice explaining any change to your benefit amount before it happens. The letter will show your current benefit, the additional spousal amount you qualify for, and your new total monthly benefit. This typically arrives 2-3 weeks before the first adjusted payment.
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Keisha Johnson
One important thing that hasn't been mentioned yet: the deemed filing rules that took effect in 2015 mean you can't choose to take only spousal benefits while letting your own benefit grow. When you apply for one type of benefit, you're deemed to have applied for all benefits you're eligible for. For someone who already filed for their own benefits early like you did, this means when your husband files, SSA will automatically determine if you're eligible for any additional spousal amount and add it to your payment if you qualify. This calculation is called the "excess spousal benefit" - it's the difference between your PIA and half of your husband's PIA, reduced for early claiming. The reduction is permanent. Based on your situation, I recommend calling SSA after your husband files to confirm what additional amount, if any, you might receive.
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QuantumQuasar
•Thank you for that additional information! I didn't know about those 2015 rule changes. It sounds like in my case, since I've already been receiving my own benefit for years, they'll just automatically check if I qualify for any additional spousal amount once my husband files. I'll definitely follow up with SSA once he does.
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Paolo Longo
Just to clarify for everyone in this thread - the spousal benefit maximum is 50% of the higher-earning spouse's PIA (their benefit amount at full retirement age). If the higher earner delayed claiming past FRA and gets delayed retirement credits, the spouse does NOT get 50% of that higher amount. This is a very common misunderstanding I see with clients. If your husband's FRA benefit was $2,800 but he gets $3,400 because he delayed claiming, your spousal benefit calculation would be based on the $2,800 figure, not the $3,400. Also, if you call SSA about this, make sure to speak with someone who specifically understands spousal benefits. Not all representatives are equally knowledgeable about these complex calculations.
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Connor Gallagher
•This is true! When my wife got her spousal increase they used my FRA amount not my age 70 amount for the calculation. The extra money from delaying only helps the person who delayed.
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