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Abby Marshall

Will I qualify for Social Security spousal benefit top-up at 63 if husband claims before his FRA?

Just found out I might be leaving money on the table with my Social Security! I started taking my retirement benefits last year when I turned 63 (after working part-time most of my life). I'm currently getting $1,420/month. My husband (we've been married 38 years) is also 63 but still working full-time and hasn't filed for his SS yet. Based on his earnings history, he's projected to get around $3,100/month at his full retirement age. My question is: am I eligible for the spousal benefit top-up once he starts collecting? And does he need to wait until his full retirement age (67) for me to get that, or can I still receive the spousal top-up if he claims early? I've heard conflicting things about this and the SSA website is so confusing! Would really appreciate some clarity from anyone who understands these spousal benefit rules.

Sadie Benitez

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Yes, you'll be eligible for a spousal benefit top-up once your husband files for his retirement benefits, regardless of whether he files before his FRA or not. The spousal benefit would be up to 50% of his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) - which is what he would get at his full retirement age - minus your own benefit amount. Here's how it works: If your husband files early, it doesn't reduce your spousal benefit eligibility, but your actual amount might be affected by several factors: 1. Since you're already receiving your own benefits, your spousal benefit would only be the difference between your current benefit and up to 50% of his PIA. 2. Since you filed for your own benefits before your FRA, your spousal benefits are also reduced permanently (you're locked into the early filing reduction). So while you don't have to wait for him to reach FRA to get the spousal top-up, the amount you'll receive will be affected by both of your filing ages.

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Abby Marshall

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Thank you so much for explaining! So if I understand correctly, even if he files at 64, I could still get some spousal top-up? Do you know approximately how much that would be based on my current benefit of $1,420 and his projected benefit of $3,100? And would I need to apply for it separately or would SSA automatically add it to my payment?

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Drew Hathaway

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My sister went thru this EXACT situation last yr!!! SSA is TERRIBLE about explaining this stuff. They'll make u wait MONTHS for answers that should be simple!!! Her husband filed b4 FRA and she still got the spousal but it was reduced alot bc they BOTH filed early. So frustrating!!!!

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Abby Marshall

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Oh that's good to know, thanks! Did your sister have to wait a long time to actually get the spousal benefits added to her payment? I'm worried about dealing with the SSA and their backlogs.

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Laila Prince

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I get ss and wife gets 1/2 of mine. We filed when I hit FRA but she was only 62. She gets less than half cause she filed early. The ss people told me had to do with something called her PIA being reduced for early filing. But yes u can get it before his FRA but less money.

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Isabel Vega

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Based on the numbers you've provided, let me walk you through an approximate calculation so you can see what you might get: Your husband's PIA (full retirement age amount) = $3,100 50% of that would be $1,550 Your current benefit = $1,420 The potential spousal benefit top-up would be $1,550 - $1,420 = $130 per month BUT since you filed early (at 63), your spousal benefit is reduced by approximately 25% from what it would be at your FRA. So instead of $130, you might receive around $97-100 as a spousal top-up. And yes, you'll need to apply for spousal benefits. The SSA doesn't automatically add this when your husband files. Contact them as soon as he files for his benefits. Hope that helps clarify things!

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Dominique Adams

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They WILL NOT AUTOMATICALLY add it?? That's ridiculous! The SSA knows who is married to whom through tax filings. Why should we have to jump through more hoops just to get what we're entitled to? This is exactly why so many seniors miss out on benefits they deserve.

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Marilyn Dixon

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kinda off topic but my aunt was in same boat. she started geting her ss at 62 and when uncle claimed his they did give her extra based on his. but it was way less than she expected. just dont get your hopes up for huge increase. few hundred maybe.

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Louisa Ramirez

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Abby Marshall

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Thanks for the tip! I've been dreading making that call. Will definitely check out that service if I can't get through. Did the SSA rep you finally spoke with explain if you need to apply for the spousal benefit or if it's automatic?

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Louisa Ramirez

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You definitely need to apply for it - it's NOT automatic. The rep told me many people miss out on this benefit because they don't know they need to apply. You'll want to call as soon as your husband files for his benefits. And have your marriage certificate handy - they might ask for it.

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Dominique Adams

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Another thing nobody mentioned - if your husband delays filing until after his FRA, he'll get delayed retirement credits, but those DON'T increase your spousal benefit! Your spousal is still based on his PIA (the FRA amount), not his increased benefit. Social Security really should make this clearer on their website!!

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Marilyn Dixon

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wait really? so if he waits till 70 ur still only getting based on his 67 amount? thats crazy i never heard that b4

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Sadie Benitez

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One more important point: You mentioned you're 63 and already collecting. Since you're still under FRA, if your husband files for his benefits now, you'll be deemed to have filed for spousal benefits simultaneously (this is the deemed filing rule). You'll automatically receive the higher of either your own retirement benefit or your spousal benefit - not both. In your case, since your own benefit is already established and the spousal top-up would just be the difference to bring you up to the spousal rate (reduced for early filing). Make sure to contact SSA once your husband files so they can determine if you're due any additional amount as a spouse.

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Diego Fisher

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I'm in a similar situation as you, Abby! I'm 64 and started taking my benefits at 62, getting about $1,200/month. My husband is 66 and just filed for his benefits last month. I had to specifically apply for the spousal benefit - it definitely wasn't automatic like I thought it would be. The process was actually pretty straightforward once I got through to someone at SSA (took a few tries though). They calculated my spousal benefit based on his PIA minus what I'm already getting, then reduced it because I filed early. I ended up getting an extra $89/month, which isn't huge but every little bit helps! One tip: when you call, have your Social Security statements handy for both you and your husband. They asked for specific numbers from our earnings records to verify the calculations. Good luck!

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Andre Dupont

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Thank you so much Diego! This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping to hear about. It's really helpful to know what to expect - an extra $89 a month isn't life-changing but like you said, every bit helps! I'm glad you mentioned having the Social Security statements ready, I'll make sure to gather all our paperwork before I call. Did you have to wait long for the spousal benefit to start showing up in your payments after you applied?

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Rajan Walker

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That's really encouraging to hear Diego! $89 extra per month adds up to over $1,000 a year - definitely worth the hassle of calling SSA. I'm curious though, how long did it take for the spousal benefit to actually start appearing in your monthly payments after you applied? And did they make it retroactive to when your husband first started collecting, or does it only start from when you apply?

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Miguel Ortiz

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm also navigating spousal benefits and had no idea about the deemed filing rule that Sadie mentioned. One thing I'm wondering about - if your husband is still working while collecting Social Security, does that affect your spousal benefit calculation at all? I know there are earnings limits that can reduce his benefits if he's under FRA, but I'm not sure if that impacts the spousal portion. Also, for those who've actually gone through the application process - did SSA require any documentation beyond the marriage certificate? My husband and I have been married for 15 years but I want to make sure I have everything ready before I call. The horror stories about wait times are making me want to be super prepared!

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Great question Miguel! From what I understand, if your husband is still working and earning above the annual limit while collecting SS before his FRA, it could temporarily reduce his benefits due to the earnings test. However, I believe your spousal benefit calculation is still based on his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), not his reduced payment amount. So theoretically it shouldn't directly affect your spousal benefit calculation, but I'd definitely confirm this when you call SSA since these rules can be tricky. As for documentation, I think the marriage certificate is the main thing they need, but having both of your Social Security statements and maybe tax returns showing you filed jointly could be helpful backup. Better to have more than you need when dealing with government agencies! The prep work will definitely pay off when you finally get through to someone.

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