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Sean Matthews

Can I get Social Security spousal benefits top-up if I claim my own retirement at 62?

I'm turning 62 next month and planning to claim my Social Security retirement benefits early. I've worked part-time most of my life while raising our kids, so my benefit will only be about $1,200/month. My husband is 64 and plans to wait until his full retirement age (67) to claim. His estimated benefit at FRA is around $3,100/month. I've heard something about getting a 'top off' or 'spousal boost' from my husband's record even if I take my own benefit early. Is this true? How would that work? Would I get more once he files for his benefits? I'm confused about whether I should take mine early or wait. Any help understanding this would be greatly appreciated!

The spousal benefit doesn't exactly work as a 'top off' the way many people think. Here's how it actually works: When your husband files for his benefits, you become eligible for a spousal benefit that could be up to 50% of his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). However, since you're taking your own benefit early, there are some important things to consider: 1. You'll be permanently reduced on your own record for claiming at 62 (about a 30% reduction) 2. The Social Security Administration will pay your own benefit first 3. IF your potential spousal benefit is higher than your own benefit, you'll get the difference as a 'top up' For example, if your husband's PIA is $3,100, the maximum spousal benefit would be $1,550. But since you're taking it before your FRA, it would be reduced. And they'll only pay the difference between your reduced benefit and the reduced spousal amount. In most cases, taking benefits early results in a permanently lower combined amount over your lifetime. Have you created a my Social Security account to see your exact numbers?

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Thanks for the explanation. Yes, I have a my Social Security account, but I got confused by all the different numbers. So if I understand correctly, I won't get any spousal benefit until my husband actually files for his benefits at 67? And even then, it might not be much because I took my own benefit early? That's disappointing.

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my sister did this and regrets it now. she took hers at 62 and then when her husband filed she only got like $300 extra because of the early filing reducshun. wish someone had told her to wait!!! once you file early your stuck with that lower amount FOREVER

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Oh no, that's exactly what I'm worried about! Did your sister consider just living on her husband's benefit and not taking her own until later? I'm wondering if I should just try to wait.

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I recommend getting an actual calculation of your specific situation before making any decisions. The spousal benefit coordination is one of the most misunderstood parts of Social Security. A few important points: 1. You cannot receive a spousal benefit until your husband actually files for his benefit 2. If you file for your own retirement at 62, you'll be deemed to have filed for spousal benefits simultaneously when they become available (when your husband files) 3. Your spousal benefit will be reduced for taking it early, even if you weren't eligible for it when you first filed The formula is: You'll receive the higher of: a) Your own reduced retirement benefit, or b) The sum of your reduced retirement benefit plus the difference between your reduced spousal benefit and your reduced retirement benefit This is why timing these decisions properly is so important. Have you looked into the break-even analysis to see at what age waiting would pay off?

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Thank you for the detailed explanation. I haven't done a break-even analysis. Is that something I can do myself? I tried calling the Social Security office to get help with calculations, but I was on hold forever and eventually got disconnected.

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Thank you for the tip! I'll check out that service. I really need to talk to someone who can run my specific numbers. $40k is a huge difference! I don't want to make a mistake I'll regret for decades.

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Listen I'll tell you what THEY don't want you to know. The whole system is RIGGED against early filers!!!! They use confusing rules to trick people into taking benefits early, then they SLASH your benefits with these complicated formulas. My cousin worked for SSA for 30 years and told me the government HOPES people file early because it saves them BILLIONS!!!! The spousal benefit is just another way they confuse people!!

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This is not accurate. The reduction for early filing is based on actuarial calculations. Statistically, whether you file early or late, the total amount paid over an average lifetime is designed to be roughly equivalent. Early filers get more checks but at a reduced amount. The system isn't 'rigged' - it's a math equation based on life expectancy.

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im confused about something... if the husband isnt filing til 67 but the wife wants money now at 62, does she just get her own benefit until he files? and then she gets more? my situation is kinda the same but reversed, im the husband.

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Yes, that's correct. If she files at 62, she'll only receive her own reduced retirement benefit until her husband files. Once he files, she'll be automatically considered for the additional spousal benefit. At that point, if 50% of his PIA (reduced for her early filing) is more than her own benefit, she'll get the difference added to her payment.

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I filed at 62 and my wife waited til FRA. Workd out ok for us bcause I was in poor health (heart attack at 59). Sometmes taking early makes sense if u need the $ or health issues. No one size fits all.

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That's a good point about health considerations. Thankfully both my husband and I are in good health with longevity in our families, so we're trying to maximize our lifetime benefits. I hope you're doing better now!

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One more important factor to consider: if your husband passes away before you, you would be eligible for survivor benefits. As a widow, you could receive up to 100% of what he was receiving (or entitled to receive). If you've taken your retirement early but then later qualify for survivor benefits, you can actually switch to the higher survivor benefit while your reduced retirement benefit stops. This is one of the few exceptions to the usual claiming rules. So even if you do decide to take your retirement early, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll be stuck with a reduced amount for your entire life if you outlive your husband. This is especially relevant since women typically outlive men by several years.

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I hadn't even thought about the survivor benefit aspect. That's actually somewhat reassuring. Since my husband's benefit will be much higher than mine, I'd definitely want to switch to that if he passes before me. There are so many factors to consider!

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btw has anyone noticed how the COLA this year is a joke?? 3.2% when groceries go up like 20%??? not related to your question sorry just mad about it lol

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EXACTLY!!! The COLAs are RIGGED too! They use some fake inflation number that doesn't include REAL costs like healthcare and food that seniors actually buy!!! It's all part of the same corrupt system!!!!

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As someone new to this community, I want to thank everyone for sharing their experiences and knowledge. This is exactly the kind of information I've been struggling to find elsewhere! @Sean Matthews - your situation sounds very similar to mine. I'm 61 and facing the same decision. From what I'm reading here, it seems like the key is getting your specific numbers calculated rather than relying on general rules. One thing I learned from my research is that there's also something called "restricted application" that used to be available, but it was phased out for people born after 1954. So that strategy isn't available to us unfortunately. Also, I noticed several people mentioned the difficulty reaching SSA by phone. Has anyone tried visiting a local SSA office in person? I'm wondering if that might be more effective than calling, even though it means taking time off work. The survivor benefit information from @Ali Anderson is really valuable too - I hadn't considered how that might change the equation. It makes me think we really need professional help to model out all these different scenarios.

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Welcome to the community @Astrid Bergström! You're absolutely right that getting specific numbers is crucial. I actually did try visiting my local SSA office a few months ago, and while I did eventually get to speak with someone, the wait was still about 2.5 hours even with an appointment. The agent was helpful though and could pull up my actual earnings record on the spot. One thing they told me that I hadn't realized is that the online calculators can sometimes be off if you have any gaps in your earnings history or if you've had name changes. The in-person visit helped clarify some discrepancies I was seeing. You're also right about the restricted application - that would have been perfect for our situation but unfortunately we missed that window. It's frustrating how the rules keep changing! @Sean Matthews - since we re'in similar situations, maybe we should both look into that Claimyr service @Declan Ramirez mentioned? I m definitely'leaning toward getting professional help at this point rather than trying to figure this out on my own.

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