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Thank you all for the helpful responses! I think I understand my options better now. Since my own benefit at my FRA would be higher than the spousal benefit, I need to decide whether to take my reduced benefit now or wait until 67 for the full amount. I'm leaning toward waiting since the permanent reduction seems substantial, but I'll need to look at our overall financial situation. I'm definitely going to try to speak with someone at SSA directly before making my final decision.

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CosmicVoyager

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Make sure u look at how much money ull miss by waiting!!! 4 years of payments is alot of $$$. Sometimes getting smaller checks for longer is better than waiting for the bigger check. Thats what my neighbor always says! 🤔

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Freya Nielsen

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I had to make this exact decision last year. The way I looked at it was: if I claim at 63, I'd get about 30% less forever. The break-even point where waiting until FRA pays off is usually around age 78-82 depending on your specific numbers. If you think you'll live past that age (and most women do!), waiting until at least FRA is usually better financially in the long run. I ended up claiming at 64 because I had some unexpected expenses, but I wish I could have waited longer. Definitely try to speak with SSA directly before deciding!

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Omar Zaki

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I'm 61 and going through similar calculations right now! One thing that helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet comparing total lifetime benefits under different scenarios. Don't forget to factor in potential cost-of-living adjustments (COLA) too - those compound over time and can make waiting even more valuable. Also, if you're married, consider the survivor benefit aspect. The higher earner's benefit becomes the survivor benefit, so maximizing that by waiting until 70 might help your husband later if you pass first. It's morbid to think about but important for planning!

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Aiden Chen

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That's really smart advice about the survivor benefit aspect! I hadn't thought about how my decision could affect my husband if I pass away first. Since he's already claiming his benefits, would my waiting until 70 to maximize my own benefit actually create a higher survivor benefit for him? Or would he keep getting his own higher benefit regardless? This is getting so complex - I definitely need professional help to sort through all these interconnected decisions.

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I'm a new retiree and going through the exact same thing right now! My first payment was way less than expected and I was so confused. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea about the prorated first month or that payments are made the month after you earn them. It's such a relief to know this is normal and not an error. The lack of clear communication from SSA really does make this unnecessarily stressful for new beneficiaries. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and explanations!

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Zara Mirza

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Welcome to the Social Security journey! I'm also new to this and just went through the same panic you're experiencing. It really is frustrating how they don't explain these payment quirks upfront. I've learned so much from this thread - definitely bookmark it for reference! The good news is that once you get through that confusing first payment, it becomes much more predictable. Hope your next payment is exactly what you're expecting!

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Sophia Carter

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I work as a customer service representative for a government benefits office and see this confusion all the time. What you experienced is completely normal! Your first Social Security payment is typically prorated based on your entitlement date, and then you have regular deductions like Medicare premiums and any tax withholding you elected. The key thing to remember is that Social Security pays in arrears - so your February payment (received in March) will be for the full month of February and should be much closer to your expected amount minus only the standard deductions. I always tell people to wait for their second payment before panicking, as that's when you'll see the true monthly amount. If you're still concerned after your March payment, definitely contact SSA or check your online account for a detailed breakdown.

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Natasha Petrova

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Thank you so much for the professional perspective! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who works in government benefits and sees this regularly. Your explanation about payments being in arrears really helps clarify the timing confusion. I'm definitely going to wait for my March payment before worrying further. It's just such a relief to know this is a common experience and not some kind of error on my account. Really appreciate you taking the time to explain this from your professional experience!

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Aisha Hussain

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I went through this exact same situation 3 years ago and can definitely confirm what others have said - you absolutely CAN enroll in Medicare without starting Social Security benefits! One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet: when you apply for Medicare online, make sure you have your employer's EIN (tax ID number) handy. They'll ask for it on the application to verify your current coverage situation. Also, keep documentation of when your employer coverage actually ends - I had to provide a letter from HR stating my coverage end date. The timing sounds perfect for you - applying now for May 1st coverage gives you plenty of buffer time. I applied about 75 days before I needed coverage and everything went smoothly. And waiting until your FRA in September for SS benefits is absolutely the right financial move if you can swing it. One last tip: once you get your Medicare card, don't forget to notify any current healthcare providers about the insurance change so they can update their billing systems before your first appointments under Medicare.

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AaliyahAli

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Thank you for mentioning the EIN requirement - that's a detail I definitely wouldn't have thought of! I'll make sure to get that from HR along with the official coverage end date letter. It's really helpful to hear from so many people who've actually been through this process successfully. I'm feeling much more prepared now to tackle the Medicare application and confident that separating it from Social Security is the right approach. Appreciate the tip about notifying healthcare providers too - I have a few specialists I see regularly and will want to make sure there are no billing issues during the transition.

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Andre Laurent

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I'm in a similar situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm 65 and losing my employer coverage in June, but my FRA isn't until 67. Reading everyone's experiences has given me the confidence to move forward with Medicare-only enrollment. One question I haven't seen addressed - for those who did Medicare without SS benefits, how did you handle the Medicare premium payments? Did you set up automatic bank withdrawals, or do you just pay the quarterly bills when they arrive? I'm trying to plan out my budget for the transition period. Also, has anyone had experience with appealing IRMAA adjustments? My 2023 income was higher than what it will be in retirement, so I'm expecting to pay the higher premiums initially but hoping to get them reduced once I file the life-changing event form.

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Cole Roush

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Great questions! When I enrolled in Medicare without taking SS benefits, I set up automatic bank withdrawals for my Part B premiums - it's much easier than remembering to pay quarterly bills. You can set this up online through your Medicare account or by calling them directly. For the IRMAA appeals, I successfully got mine reduced using Form SSA-44 about 6 months after I stopped working. The key is to file it as soon as your income actually changes (like when you retire), not waiting until the following year. They were pretty responsive - took about 2-3 months to process and I got a refund for the overpaid premiums. Make sure to keep good documentation of your work stoppage date and any final paystubs to support your case. The whole process of separating Medicare from SS really does work smoothly once you get through the initial paperwork!

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Cynthia Love

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One last important point: The earnings limit only affects your benefits while you're under FRA. Once you reach FRA, SSA will recalculate your benefit amount and give you credit for months they withheld benefits due to excess earnings. So even if you lose some benefits due to working, you'll eventually get the money back in the form of a higher monthly benefit starting at FRA. It's not a true "penalty" - more like a deferral of benefits.

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Rita Jacobs

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I had NO idea about this recalculation! So even if I had gone over the limit, I wouldn't permanently lose those benefits? That's a huge relief to know. The SSA doesn't make these details very clear on their website. Thanks for explaining this so thoroughly.

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Khalid Howes

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Ugh, all these rules make my head hurt!! I'm 63 and just trying to figure out if I should keep working or not. Why does social security have to be so COMPLICATED?? Every time I think I understand something, there's another rule or exception!

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Ben Cooper

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It's definitely complex, but there's a method to the madness. The earnings test is designed to reflect the original purpose of Social Security - replacing lost income in retirement. The rules balance allowing some work while collecting benefits against the program's primary purpose. Once you understand the reasoning, the rules make more sense, even if they're administratively complicated.

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Lena Schultz

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I totally understand the frustration! I'm approaching FRA myself and found it helpful to write down the key dates and limits on a simple chart. For someone at 63, you're dealing with the basic annual limit (around $22,320 for 2024) until you hit FRA. The good news is once you get there, all the complicated rules disappear and you can work as much as you want without any earnings restrictions. Hang in there - it gets much simpler after FRA!

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Here's a simplified explanation of your situation: 1. January-May 2025 (before FRA): Higher annual earnings limit applies (approximately $60,000 adjusted for 2025 COLA) 2. June 2025 and beyond (FRA attained): No earnings limits whatsoever The monthly earnings limit only applies in a non-FRA year when you have a "grace year" - the first year you retire and claim benefits mid-year. This is often confused with FRA rules. For official verification, see SSA's page on Special Earnings Limit Rule: https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/rule.html

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Lena Kowalski

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Thank you for this clear breakdown! This makes perfect sense now. I appreciate you citing the official SSA page too - I'll take a look at that for more details.

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Just wanted to add one more important point that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand how the earnings test calculation works in practice. SSA looks at your ANNUAL earnings for the months before FRA, but they deduct benefits on a monthly basis if you exceed the limit. So if you earn $70,000 from January through May 2025 (exceeding the ~$60K limit), they'll withhold $1 for every $3 over the limit, but they spread that withholding across the remaining months of the year. It's not like they take a lump sum - they adjust your monthly benefit payments. This might affect your cash flow planning even though you'll be within your rights to earn that much.

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Aisha Rahman

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That's a really important point about the monthly withholding process! I hadn't thought about the cash flow implications. So even though I'm allowed to earn more in my FRA year, if I do exceed the limit in those pre-FRA months, SSA will still reduce my monthly benefit payments for the rest of 2025 to recover the "overage"? That could definitely impact my budget planning. Do you know if there's a way to estimate how much they would withhold per month, or do I need to contact SSA directly for that calculation?

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