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I recently lost my husband at age 66 (he never filed for Social Security) and I'm trying to plan my widow's benefits strategy. I'm 62 now and still working full-time at my office job. After researching on the SSA website, I found my widow's FRA is 66 and 8 months, when I can collect 100% of my late husband's benefit (which will definitely be higher than mine based on my earnings record). What's confusing me is exactly WHICH amount I'll receive. Is my widow's benefit based on: 1. What my husband would've received at the age he died (66)? 2. What he would've received at his FRA? 3. What he would've received had he lived to 70 (with delayed retirement credits)? If I wait until my widow's FRA to collect, my husband would've been 69 if still alive. Will I get the benefit amount he would've received with those delayed credits even though he never filed? Or does it max out at his FRA amount since he died before 70? I'm planning to wait until I hit my widow's FRA to avoid any reductions, but wondering if there's any advantage to filing earlier. My work income is about $75,000/year if that matters for any earnings test. Thank you for any guidance!
I've been checking my Social Security earnings record on my SSA.gov account to make sure everything's accurate, but I noticed my 2024 earnings are showing up as $0 even though I've been working steadily all year. Is this normal? How long does it usually take for current year earnings to appear in the system? My 2023 earnings are there correctly, but nothing for 2024 yet. Should I be concerned or am I just being paranoid? I don't want to discover years later that my earnings weren't properly recorded.
I had the same panic last year! It's such a relief to read all these responses confirming it's normal. The SSA website really should include a disclaimer about the delay - would save so many people unnecessary stress. I've been working two jobs this year and was worried one of my employers wasn't reporting correctly. Now I know to just be patient and check back next fall. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!
As a newcomer to this community, I can't tell you how relieved I am to have found this discussion! I literally just created my SSA.gov account yesterday and when I saw $0 for 2024 earnings, I immediately thought there was some major error with my Social Security contributions. I was already mentally preparing to spend my entire day tomorrow on hold with SSA trying to figure out what went wrong. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been such a lifesaver - it's clear this is completely normal and I just need to be patient until next fall. It's incredible how many people have had this exact same worry! Thank you all for sharing your knowledge and saving me from unnecessary panic. I'll definitely be checking back annually now that I understand the timeline.
Welcome to the community! Your experience sounds exactly like mine when I first checked my SSA account. I was convinced my employer had messed up my withholdings or that there was some glitch in the system. It's honestly such a relief to find this thread and realize how universal this concern is. The fact that so many of us have gone through this exact same panic really highlights how much the SSA website needs better explanations. At least now you can relax and just wait until next fall to see your 2024 earnings appear. This community has been invaluable for questions like this!
Hi everyone, I'm planning to file for my Social Security retirement benefits at my full retirement age in September 2025, so my first payment would arrive in October. I just saw the news about the upcoming COLA announcement in October and I'm a bit confused about timing. If they announce a COLA increase for 2026, would my benefit amount increase with my January 2026 payment? Or would I keep getting the same amount I started with in October since I'm a new recipient? I'm trying to budget for next year and wondering if I should expect one payment amount for October-December and then a slightly higher amount starting in January. My estimated monthly benefit is around $2,450 according to my SSA statement. Anyone gone through this recently? Thanks for clarifying this for me!
btw does anyone know when the payments hit your account? my retirement starts in december and im trying to figure out when ill get paid
Social Security pays benefits based on your birth date: - Born on 1st-10th: Second Wednesday of the month - Born on 11th-20th: Third Wednesday of the month - Born on 21st-31st: Fourth Wednesday of the month If you started receiving benefits before May 1997, you get paid on the 3rd of the month. Hope that helps!
Just wanted to chime in as someone who works in benefits administration (not SSA, but similar federal program). The folks above are absolutely correct - COLA increases apply to ALL current beneficiaries regardless of when you started receiving benefits. It's actually one of the most straightforward aspects of Social Security! One small tip: when you do start receiving benefits in October 2025, I'd recommend setting up a my Social Security account at ssa.gov if you haven't already. You'll be able to see your payment history, download your benefit verification letters, and most importantly, you can see exactly how the COLA increase affects your benefit amount in real-time when it gets applied in January 2026. Good luck with your retirement planning! It sounds like you're being very thoughtful about the timing and budget considerations.
Just received our Social Security award letters yesterday and I'm confused about the benefit amounts. I'll be turning 67 (my FRA) next month when my first retirement check hits, and my primary insurance amount looks correct at $2,875. But I'm really thrown off by how low the benefits are for my 8-year-old daughter and my wife (who's caring for her). I always thought they'd each get close to 50% of my benefit, but they're only getting $785 each. That's not even 30%! I understand there's some kind of "family maximum" formula that can reduce dependent benefits, but this seems extreme. Has anyone successfully verified or challenged these calculations? Is there a reliable calculator online where I can double-check these numbers? The SSA explanation letter mentions something about "maximum family benefits" but doesn't explain how they arrived at these specific amounts. Any insight would be really appreciated!
Another thing to consider is that dependent benefits can increase over time. If any dependents stop receiving benefits (like when your child turns 18/19), the remaining dependents can have their benefits recalculated and potentially increased up to the 50% maximum. This won't happen automatically though - you need to contact SSA to request a recalculation when your family situation changes.
I went through a similar situation when I started receiving benefits last year. The family maximum definitely hit us harder than expected too. One thing that helped me understand it better was using the SSA's online benefit calculators, but as others mentioned, they don't always show the family max impact clearly. What I found most helpful was keeping detailed records of all our communications with SSA. When I finally got through to someone knowledgeable, they were able to walk me through each step of the calculation. The bend point formula that Dmitry explained is exactly right - your numbers sound like they're calculated correctly based on your PIA. One tip: if you do call SSA, try calling right when they open at 7 AM local time. I had much better luck getting through quickly in that first hour. Also, don't hesitate to ask the representative to transfer you to someone who specializes in family benefit calculations if the first person seems unsure about the details. The family maximum rules have been around since the 1960s, so while it feels unfair when it affects your family, it's designed to prevent total family benefits from becoming too high relative to what the worker contributed. Still doesn't make it less frustrating when you're planning your finances around those theoretical 50% amounts!
My family's been surviving on Social Security survivors benefits since my husband passed away 12 years ago. My daughter (who has significant disabilities) and I each receive about $1,350 monthly. She's turning 16 in a few months, and I'm trying to understand what happens next with our benefits. From what I've gathered, at 16 I need to have SSA formally deem her disabled to continue her benefits. But I'm confused about what happens to MY benefits as her mother? Do I lose my mother's benefits when she turns 16, even though she'll still be receiving her survivors benefits as a disabled child? If I do lose my benefits, I'll have to transition from part-time to full-time work (I'm only 43). Will my increased income affect her disabled child survivors benefits? I've been keeping my income limited because I was afraid of affecting our current benefits, but I'm drowning in debt and need to make changes if my check stops. I'm getting conflicting information about whether I need to wait until she's 18 for adult disability or if the disability determination at 16 is enough to continue both our benefits. The local office wasn't very clear about this transition process. Any advice would be so appreciated - I need to plan ahead if my income is about to drop significantly!
Another consideration: once your daughter turns 18, even if she continues on survivor's benefits as a disabled adult child (DAC), she might also qualify for SSI if those survivor benefits are below the maximum federal benefit rate (currently $943/month for 2023). Also, when she turns 18, think about whether you should become her representative payee. If her disabilities affect her ability to manage finances, having you continue as her payee might be best. SSA will evaluate this when she transitions to adult benefits. Regarding work - some parents in your situation find that working full-time actually improves their overall financial situation because of benefits like health insurance and retirement contributions, even after accounting for the loss of SS benefits. It's worth doing a complete financial analysis.
You've given me a lot to think about regarding long-term planning. I hadn't considered the representative payee situation for when she turns 18, but that makes sense. She wouldn't be able to manage her finances independently. I'll definitely look into the potential for SSI supplementation as well. Thanks for these additional considerations!
I went through this exact situation 3 years ago with my son who has autism and intellectual disability. Here's what I wish I had known: 1. Start the CDB application NOW - don't wait. I made the mistake of waiting until 2 months before his 16th birthday and it was a nightmare of stress. 2. Get a comprehensive psychological evaluation done by a neuropsychologist if you don't have one recent. SSA weighs these heavily for intellectual and developmental disabilities. 3. Consider opening a special needs trust or ABLE account now while you still have time to plan. Once she's 18 and potentially on SSI, asset limits become really important. 4. Document EVERYTHING about her daily care needs. I kept a daily log for 2 months showing what assistance she needed with activities of daily living - this helped enormously with the determination. The financial hit when you lose your benefits is real, but manageable if you plan ahead. I actually ended up in a better place financially after a year of full-time work, plus my son qualified for additional state services we didn't know about before. One more tip: if your local SSA office isn't helpful, try calling the national number and asking to speak with a disability specialist. Some offices are just more knowledgeable than others.
Ethan Taylor
To summarize what appears to be causing confusion: 1. You WILL receive any DRCs your husband earned between his FRA and his death at 66. 2. You will NOT receive additional DRCs he might have earned had he lived longer (up to age 70). 3. Since you mentioned he died at 66, which was likely very close to his FRA, there may be very few DRCs involved (possibly just a few months' worth). 4. Given your still-working status and the fact that your own benefit at 70 would be less than the widow's benefit, waiting until your widow's FRA (66+8mo) appears to be the optimal strategy in your case. 5. Once you stop working or reach your FRA, don't forget to inquire about the possible 6 months of retroactive benefits that may be available if you file after your FRA.
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Aisha Khan
AuthorThank you so much for this clear summary! This is exactly what I needed to know. I'll plan to wait until my widow's FRA at 66+8mo to file, and I'll definitely ask about those retroactive benefits.
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Andre Laurent
Just wanted to add one more important point that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand the difference between "deemed filing" and survivor benefits timing. Since you're 62 now, if you were to file for any Social Security benefits before your widow's FRA, you'd be subject to deemed filing rules that could permanently reduce your benefits. Also, I'd strongly recommend getting a personalized benefit estimate from SSA that shows your projected widow's benefit amount. This will help you make the most informed decision about timing. You can request this when you call SSA or visit a local office. Given your situation (still working full-time with good income, widow's benefit higher than your own), waiting until your widow's FRA definitely seems like the right strategy. Just make sure to apply a few months before you want benefits to start to avoid any processing delays!
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