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I'm so sorry for your loss, Keith. This is definitely a complex situation, but you're smart to research your options thoroughly before making any decisions. One important clarification I'd like to add: while the earnings test can reduce your survivor benefits if you work before FRA, there's actually a special rule for the year you reach FRA. In that year, the earnings limit is much higher (about $60,240 for 2025) and only earnings in months before you reach FRA count against you. Since you'll be 65 in April, if your FRA is 67, you'd have this higher earnings limit available in 2027. This might influence your timing strategy. Also, I'd strongly recommend creating a my Social Security account online if you haven't already. While it won't give you survivor benefit estimates (you need to speak with SSA for those), you can at least see your own benefit estimates and earnings history, which will help you compare your options. The suggestion about potentially reducing your work hours is excellent - sometimes a strategic reduction in income can actually increase your total monthly resources when benefits are factored in. Just make sure to run the numbers carefully with actual benefit amounts once you get them from SSA. Best of luck navigating this process!
Thank you Mia, that's really valuable information about the special earnings limit rule in the year you reach FRA! I hadn't heard about that higher limit ($60,240) - that could definitely change the timing strategy. Since my FRA would be 67, having that much higher earnings limit in 2027 could make a big difference. I'll definitely ask about that when I speak with SSA. I do have a my Social Security account set up, so I can at least look at my own projected benefits while I wait to get the survivor benefit calculations. This whole thread has given me so many things to consider that I never would have thought of on my own. Really grateful for everyone's expertise here!
I'm so sorry for your loss, Keith. Losing an ex-spouse brings up so many complicated feelings and practical concerns. Just wanted to add another perspective on your situation - since you mentioned being exhausted and wanting to work less, you might want to consider that this could actually be the perfect time to make a career transition. Some people use the survivor benefit as a bridge to help them shift to part-time work, freelancing, or even starting a small business where they have more control over their income timing. For example, if you could transition to contract or consulting work in your field, you might be able to time your income to stay under the earnings limits in certain years while earning more in others. This could give you both the financial breathing room and the lifestyle change you're looking for. Also, don't forget to check if your ex-husband had any life insurance policies that named you as beneficiary - sometimes people forget to update those after divorce, and it could provide additional financial cushion while you figure out your Social Security strategy. The fact that you're researching all this so thoroughly shows you're going to make a well-informed decision. Take your time and don't feel pressured to decide quickly - these benefits aren't going anywhere!
That's such a thoughtful perspective about using this as an opportunity for career transition! I hadn't even considered the possibility of freelancing or consulting work where I could have more control over timing my income. As someone who's worked in the same office environment for years, the idea of having that kind of flexibility is really appealing, especially given how burned out I've been feeling lately. The point about life insurance policies is also really important - I honestly hadn't thought to check on that. My ex and I had a fairly amicable divorce, so it's possible he never updated those beneficiary designations. That could definitely provide some additional financial security while I'm figuring out this whole Social Security situation. Thank you for reminding me that I don't need to rush into any decisions - sometimes when you're dealing with grief and financial stress, it feels like everything needs to be decided immediately. It's reassuring to know I can take time to really think through all these options and maybe even explore some new career paths I hadn't considered before.
I'm so very sorry for the loss of your mother, Jasmine. Sudden losses like this are especially shocking and my heart goes out to you and your family. I want to echo what others have said about calling SSA at 1-800-772-1213, but I also wanted to share something that might help with the waiting times. If you have access to a computer, you can also create a my Social Security account online at ssa.gov and report the death through their online system. Sometimes this can be faster than calling, especially during busy periods. You'll still likely need to follow up with a phone call, but it can get the initial report started. Also, when you do speak with SSA, ask them to send you a written confirmation that the death has been reported and that they've initiated the payment reclamation. Having this documentation can be helpful if any questions come up later with the bank or other agencies. Take care of yourself during this difficult time. You're doing everything right, even when it doesn't feel like it.
Thank you, Giovanni. I hadn't thought about the online option - that's really helpful to know about. Being able to start the process online might save some time and stress, especially if the phone lines are busy. I'll definitely look into creating a my Social Security account. And requesting written confirmation is excellent advice - having documentation will give me peace of mind that everything has been properly reported. I really appreciate you taking the time to share these practical tips during such a difficult period. This community has been such a blessing.
I'm so incredibly sorry for your loss, Jasmine. Losing your mother suddenly like this is unimaginable, and my heart truly goes out to you during this devastating time. I wanted to add one more resource that might help you navigate this process. Many local SSA offices also have grief counselors or social workers who specialize in helping families through these situations. When you call the main number, you can ask if they have someone specifically trained in bereavement services who could walk you through not just the payment return process, but also help you understand all the other SSA-related tasks you might need to handle. Also, if you have other family members who might be calling SSA about your mother's death (siblings, spouse, etc.), make sure to coordinate so that multiple people aren't reporting the same information - this can sometimes cause confusion in their system. One last thing - please don't feel like you have to handle all of this immediately. SSA understands that families need time to grieve, and while it's good to report the death promptly, they won't penalize you if it takes a few days to get everything sorted out. You're being so thoughtful and responsible during an incredibly difficult time. Your mother would be proud of how you're handling everything. Sending you strength and comfort.
Thank you so much, Alberto. I didn't know about grief counselors or social workers being available through SSA - that's incredibly valuable information. Having someone who specializes in bereavement services guide me through this would be such a relief. I'll definitely ask about that when I call. And you make a great point about coordinating with other family members. My husband might also want to call, so I'll make sure we're not duplicating efforts. Your reminder that SSA understands families need time to grieve really helps ease some of the pressure I've been putting on myself to get everything done immediately. Thank you for being so compassionate and for all the practical advice. This community has shown me such kindness during the worst time of my life.
Just want to add something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you do decide to work, make sure your employer understands your disability and any accommodations you might need. Under the ADA, they're required to provide reasonable accommodations as long as it doesn't cause undue hardship to the business. Also, keep detailed records of how work affects your health condition. If your symptoms worsen or you need to reduce hours/stop working, this documentation will be crucial if you need to request benefit reinstatement or prove that your condition hasn't improved. One more tip: consider starting with temporary or seasonal work if possible. This gives you a chance to test how your body handles working without committing to a permanent position. Places like tax preparation services, retail during holidays, or event staffing can be good options for limited-time work while you figure out what you can handle. The anxiety about potentially losing benefits is totally understandable, but with proper planning and documentation, many people successfully work part-time while maintaining their SSDI safety net.
This is such great advice about the ADA accommodations! I hadn't even thought about that aspect. The idea of starting with temporary work is really smart too - it would let me test things out without the pressure of a permanent commitment. I'm definitely going to look into seasonal retail positions for the holidays coming up. That way I can see how my body handles the work environment and also get a better understanding of how the reporting process works with SSA before diving into something more long-term. Thank you for thinking of these practical suggestions!
I've been working part-time while on SSDI for the past year and wanted to share my experience to hopefully help ease some of your anxiety. Like you, I was terrified of losing my benefits, but it's actually been manageable with the right approach. Here's what worked for me: 1. I contacted a WIPA counselor BEFORE I started looking for work (as PixelWarrior mentioned). They walked me through my specific situation and helped me understand exactly where I stood with my Trial Work Period months. 2. I found a very understanding employer who was willing to work with my limitations and keep my hours consistent so I could stay well under the SGA limit. 3. I set up a simple spreadsheet to track my monthly earnings, hours worked, and any symptoms/bad days. This has been invaluable for my own peace of mind and documentation. 4. I report my wages religiously every month, even when they're the same amount. Better to over-communicate than under-communicate with SSA. The extra income has made such a difference in my quality of life, and I still have my SSDI as a safety net. Yes, the system is confusing and sometimes frustrating, but it IS possible to work part-time successfully while maintaining your benefits if you're careful and proactive about following the rules. Don't let fear keep you trapped at home if you think you can handle some work. Just do your homework first and document everything!
This is so encouraging to hear! It's really reassuring to know that someone has successfully navigated this process and that it's actually working out well for you. I love the idea of using a spreadsheet to track everything - that would definitely help me feel more in control of the situation. Your point about finding an understanding employer is really important too. I've been wondering how to even bring up my disability during job interviews without it affecting my chances of getting hired. Did you disclose your situation upfront, or wait until after you were offered the position? I want to be honest but also don't want to hurt my chances. The WIPA counselor recommendation keeps coming up in these responses, so I'm definitely going to look into that as my first step. Thank you for sharing your real experience - it gives me hope that this might actually be possible!
I've been following this discussion and wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful. If you do decide to wait until your FRA (which sounds like the smart move based on everyone's advice), make sure you understand what happens to any delayed retirement credits. While ex-spouse benefits don't earn delayed retirement credits past FRA, YOUR own retirement benefit does continue to grow by about 8% per year until age 70 if you delay claiming. So if your own benefit might eventually be higher than the ex-spouse benefit, waiting until 70 to claim could maximize your monthly payment for life. Also, just a heads up - even though the earnings test goes away at FRA, you'll still need to consider the tax implications of Social Security benefits combined with your work income. The taxation thresholds are pretty low, so you might end up paying taxes on a significant portion of your benefits even after FRA. It's frustrating how complicated they've made this system, but it sounds like you're getting good advice here to wait it out!
This is such valuable information, thank you Lucas! I hadn't really thought about the delayed retirement credits on my own benefit. It sounds like I should definitely compare what my own benefit would be at 70 versus the ex-spouse benefit to see which strategy makes more sense long-term. The 8% annual growth after FRA could really add up over those 4 years. I'm starting to think waiting might not just avoid the earnings test headache, but could actually result in a much better financial outcome overall. Thanks for adding this perspective!
I just went through a very similar situation last year and wanted to share what I learned. I'm 65 now and was also considering claiming on my ex-husband's record while still working. After doing a lot of research and talking to a financial advisor, I decided to wait until my FRA. Here's what really helped me make the decision: I used the Social Security Administration's online calculator to run different scenarios. You can input your current earnings and see exactly how much they would withhold under the earnings test. In my case, with a $40K income, they would have taken back almost 75% of my benefits - it just wasn't worth the hassle. One thing I didn't see mentioned here is that if you're close to your ex-husband's age, his benefits might still be growing too if he hasn't reached 70 yet. So the 50% calculation for your ex-spouse benefit could actually increase if he's still earning delayed retirement credits. My advice? Create that MySocialSecurity account ASAP (it's actually pretty straightforward to set up) and run the numbers for yourself. Compare your projected benefit at 70 vs the ex-spouse benefit vs claiming now with the earnings reduction. The math will help you decide what's best for your specific situation. Good luck navigating this - I know how frustrating it can be when you can't get through to anyone at SSA for real answers!
Nora Brooks
Just wanted to add one important detail that might help others in similar situations - when you do make the switch from your retirement benefit to survivor benefits at 67, there's no gap in payments. SSA will automatically adjust your monthly payment starting the month you reach FRA, so you don't need to reapply or worry about missing payments during the transition. Also, since you mentioned tight finances, remember that survivor benefits aren't subject to the earnings test once you reach FRA, so if you're still working part-time at 67, that income won't affect your survivor benefit amount. This is different from regular retirement benefits which are subject to earnings limits until FRA. Good luck with your strategy - it sounds like you've got a solid plan given your circumstances!
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Isabella Costa
•This is really helpful information! I didn't realize the transition would be automatic once I reach FRA - that takes away one of my worries about potential gaps in coverage. And knowing that the earnings test won't apply to survivor benefits at FRA is great since I might still be working part-time then. Thanks for clarifying these details!
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Ryder Ross
I went through a very similar situation about 3 years ago - divorced after 22 years, ex-husband passed away, and I had the same strategic decision to make. I ended up doing exactly what you're planning: took my own reduced retirement at 62, then switched to survivor benefits at my FRA. The key thing that helped me was getting a written statement from SSA confirming my plan before I applied. When I filed for my retirement benefits at 62, I specifically stated I was "restricting my application to retirement benefits only" and that I intended to claim survivor benefits later. The SSA representative made a note in my file, which prevented any confusion later. One tip: when you do switch to survivor benefits at 67, you'll want to contact SSA about a month before your birthday to initiate the process, even though it should be automatic. I did this and it ensured a smooth transition with no payment delays. The difference in my monthly payment went from about $1,100 (my reduced retirement) to $2,850 (survivor benefit) - life-changing! Your plan sounds solid given the income difference. Just make sure everything is documented properly with SSA from the start.
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