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Can I collect survivor benefits from both ex-spouse and new spouse if I remarry after 60?

Hi everyone, I'm planning ahead for my retirement and have a complicated survivor benefits question. My ex-husband and I were married for 32 years before divorcing in 2020. His SS benefits will be around $3,400/month based on his career as an engineer. I'm now dating someone wonderful who I might marry (I'm 62), but his SS benefits would only be around $1,900/month. I understand I'm eligible for survivor benefits from my ex if he passes away since we were married over 10 years. But here's my question: If I remarry after age 60 and then my new husband also passes away, can I choose which survivor benefit to take? Would I be able to claim the higher amount from my ex-husband rather than my new husband? The difference of $1,500 monthly would be really significant for my retirement security. I've tried calling SSA three times but keep getting disconnected after waiting for hours. Any insights from those who understand these survivorship rules would be so appreciated!

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Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I'm feeling much more confident now knowing that I should be able to claim the higher survivor benefit regardless of which spouse passes away first. I'm going to use that Claimyr service that was mentioned to speak with SSA directly and get this confirmed for my specific case. I'll also gather my marriage certificate and divorce decree to have them ready. So relieved to know this won't negatively impact my future financial security if I decide to remarry!

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Just want to add one more thing that might be helpful - when you do speak with SSA, ask them to put a note in your file about your eligibility for both survivor benefits. That way if there's any confusion later (like what happened to Adrian's mom), there's already documentation in the system. Also, since you're 62 now, you might want to ask about your own retirement benefit timing too - sometimes it makes sense to take your own reduced benefit first and then switch to the higher survivor benefit later, depending on the amounts. Good luck with your decision!

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Social Security website showing $0 earnings for 2024 despite working all year - normal delay or problem?

I logged into my Social Security account yesterday to check my earnings record and got worried when I saw $0 listed for 2024. I've been working full-time at the same company since 2022 and have had taxes taken out of every paycheck. My W-2 from 2023 shows I made $57,900 last year and that's correctly showing in my SS record. But nothing for this year despite being 8 months in. Is this normal? Does my employer only report earnings annually? Or should I be concerned that my company isn't properly reporting my Social Security contributions? I'm only 39 but trying to keep better track of my future benefits. Thanks for any insight!

Thanks everyone for the reassurance! It sounds like this is totally normal and I was worried for nothing. I'll check again early next year to make sure my 2024 earnings show up correctly. And I'll definitely be more diligent about reviewing my SS records annually going forward.

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That's a great plan. Regular verification is the best way to ensure your record stays accurate. And remember that your Social Security retirement benefit will be based on your highest 35 years of earnings, so keeping track of your earnings record throughout your career is definitely worthwhile.

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Just wanted to add that you can also set up email notifications through your my Social Security account to get alerts when your earnings record is updated. I started doing this after having a similar scare a few years ago. The notifications typically come in late fall when the previous year's earnings get posted. It's a nice way to stay on top of things without having to remember to manually check every year!

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Should I take Social Security at 69 while still working or wait until 70? Break-even confusion

I'm struggling with a retirement timing decision and would appreciate any insights from folks who've been here before. I'm turning 69 next month and still working full-time at my accounting firm. I've been delaying Social Security to increase my benefit, but now I'm questioning if I should just start collecting while I continue working. I've calculated that waiting until 70 would give me about $250 more per month compared to filing now at 69. The Social Security break-even calculator shows I'd need to live until 82 to make waiting worthwhile. My dad lived to 79 and mom to 81, so I'm not convinced waiting is the best strategy anymore. I know there could be tax implications since my work income is around $125,000 annually, but I'm wondering if the guaranteed money now outweighs the potential extra later? Has anyone else collected SS while continuing to work? Did you regret starting benefits before fully retiring? My financial advisor keeps pushing me to wait until 70, but I'd love to hear some real-world experiences.

Another consideration is what economists call the 'utility of money' - basically, money now might have more value to you than more money later. If you're healthy and have specific plans or dreams, having that extra SS income while you're still able to enjoy it fully (even while working) could be worth more than the mathematically optimal solution. I think the advice to run specific tax calculations is spot on. With your income level, you need to look at the net benefit after taxes, not just the gross benefit amount. The difference between taking it at 69 versus 70 might be less significant after accounting for taxes than it appears at first glance.

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The 'utility of money' concept resonates with me. I've been thinking about reducing my hours slightly at work to have more time for travel while I'm still healthy enough to enjoy it. Taking SS now could facilitate that transition to semi-retirement without affecting my lifestyle too much. I definitely need to talk with my tax advisor to get precise numbers, but I'm leaning toward filing soon rather than waiting another year.

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As someone who took SS at 68 while still working, I'd suggest looking at this from a cash flow perspective too. At your income level, you're already in a high tax bracket, so the additional taxation on SS benefits might not be as painful as it would be for someone with lower income. One thing that helped me decide was calculating the actual net monthly difference after taxes. In my case, the "guaranteed" extra $250/month from waiting turned out to be closer to $150 after taxes and higher Medicare premiums. When I factored in what I could do with that money for 12 months (invest it, use it for experiences, etc.), the decision became clearer. Also consider that you're still working - you have the luxury of not NEEDING the SS money for basic expenses, which means you can treat it as bonus income rather than survival money. This changes the risk/reward calculation significantly compared to someone who needs every dollar for living expenses. Have you considered doing a trial run with your tax software to see exactly how much the SS benefits would be taxed at your income level? That might give you the concrete numbers you need to make this decision.

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Can both ex-wife and current spouse claim Social Security survivor benefits from same deceased husband?

My father just passed away last month and we're trying to figure out the Social Security survivor benefits situation. He was married to my mom for 15 years before they divorced in 1998. Then he married my stepmom in 2001 and they were together until he died (24 years). Both marriages were over 10 years long. My question is: can BOTH my mom (his ex-wife who never remarried) AND my stepmom file for survivor benefits based on his record? The funeral home person mentioned something about this being possible but I'm confused because I thought only one spouse could get survivor benefits. Dad worked his whole life and had a pretty good SS benefit amount. Does anyone know how this works with multiple long-term marriages?

I'm deeply sorry for your loss, Ravi. Losing a parent is never easy, and having to navigate Social Security benefits during such a difficult time adds extra stress to an already overwhelming situation. The great news is that both your mother and stepmother can absolutely receive survivor benefits from your father's record simultaneously. This is actually one of the more family-friendly aspects of Social Security - multiple qualified survivors can draw benefits without reducing what the others receive. Your situation breaks down like this: - Your mom qualifies for divorced spouse survivor benefits (married 15 years, which exceeds the 10-year requirement, and never remarried) - Your stepmother qualifies as the surviving widow (married to your father at the time of his death) Both will need to apply separately using Form SSA-10 and provide the necessary documentation: death certificate, their respective marriage certificates, and your mom will also need the divorce decree. One crucial point about timing: your mom at 67 can receive the full 100% survivor benefit, but your stepmother at 62 would only receive about 81% if she claims immediately. If your stepmother can afford to wait until closer to her full retirement age (66-67), she'd get significantly more. Before either applies, I'd strongly recommend they both check their own estimated benefits on my.ssa.gov to ensure the survivor benefits would actually be higher than their own retirement benefits - SSA pays whichever is higher, but not both. Your father earned these benefits through years of hard work, and both women are absolutely entitled to them. Take care of yourself during this process.

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Thank you so much, Lucy. Your explanation really helps clarify everything. I feel like I finally understand the full picture now. The fact that both my mom and stepmom can receive benefits without affecting each other is such a relief - I was worried there might be some kind of conflict between their claims. The timing advice about my stepmom is really important. That 19% difference between claiming at 62 vs waiting until full retirement age could mean thousands of dollars over the years. I'll definitely discuss this with her - she might be able to wait a bit longer if her current financial situation allows it. I'm going to help both of them set up those my.ssa.gov accounts this weekend to check their own benefit estimates first. It's good to know that step should come before applying for survivor benefits. Thank you for the reminder that my father earned these benefits through his hard work. That perspective really helps during what's been a very difficult few weeks for our whole family. Your compassionate response means more than you know.

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I'm so sorry for the loss of your father, Ravi. This must be an incredibly difficult time for your family, and trying to navigate Social Security benefits while grieving only adds to the stress. The good news is that yes, both your mother and stepmother can absolutely receive survivor benefits from your father's record at the same time. This is one of the few situations where multiple people can collect benefits from the same worker's record without affecting each other's benefit amounts. Here's what you need to know: - Your mom qualifies for divorced spouse survivor benefits since she was married to your father for 15 years (well over the 10-year minimum) and never remarried - Your stepmother qualifies as the surviving widow since she was married to him at the time of his death - Both must apply separately using Form SSA-10 - Required documents include: death certificate, marriage certificates, and the divorce decree for your mom One important timing consideration: At 67, your mom can receive 100% of the survivor benefit. However, your stepmother at 62 would only receive about 81% if she claims now. If she can afford to wait closer to her full retirement age (around 66-67), she'd receive the full amount - that's a significant difference over time. Before either applies, I'd recommend they both check their benefit estimates on my.ssa.gov to make sure survivor benefits would actually be higher than their own retirement benefits, since SSA pays whichever is higher but not both. Your father worked hard to earn these benefits, and both women are entitled to them. Take care of yourself during this difficult process.

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Will I face SS benefit penalty earning $62,160 in 2025 if FRA is January 2026?

I'm planning to start collecting Social Security in July 2025, but I'm confused about the earnings limit situation. From what I've read online, the 2025 earnings limit for people reaching FRA that year is $62,160. My problem is that my Full Retirement Age isn't until January 2026 - just missing the 2025 cutoff by one month! Can I still earn up to that $62,160 amount in 2025 without getting my benefits reduced? Or am I stuck with a lower earnings limit since I won't technically reach FRA during 2025? I'm planning my work schedule for next year and really need to understand exactly how much I can earn between July-December 2025 without penalty. Also, if there is a penalty, how exactly do they calculate it? Is it based on my whole year's income or just what I earn after starting benefits? Any help would be MUCH appreciated!

Thank you all for such helpful information! I think I now understand my options much better. I'm going to: 1. Work my normal schedule January-June 2025 2. Start my SS benefits in July 2025 as planned 3. Carefully track my earnings to stay under approximately $2,000/month from July-December 4. Make sure any December work that gets paid in January is properly accounted for And most importantly, I'll try to get an official confirmation from SSA directly before finalizing my plans. It's frustrating how complicated they make these rules, especially for those of us who miss the calendar year cutoff by just a few weeks!

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Good luck with your plan, Santiago! Just want to add one more piece of advice from my experience - keep detailed records of ALL your earnings and when you actually earned them (not just when paid). I created a simple spreadsheet tracking each paycheck with the pay period dates, which saved me a huge headache when SSA questioned something later. Also, if you're doing any freelance or contract work in addition to regular employment, be extra careful about tracking those earnings too. The SSA counts ALL earned income toward the limit, not just your main job. And remember that if you do accidentally go over the limit slightly, it's not the end of the world thanks to that recalculation benefit that Mateo mentioned. You've got a solid plan - just document everything!

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