Can I claim Social Security survivor benefits at 63 when I don't financially need them?
My sister just lost her husband six weeks ago - completely unexpected heart attack at 66. She's 63 and hasn't worked outside the home since they got married right after college (they were both 22). Her husband had a great career in pharmaceutical sales and was definitely at the maximum SS benefit amount. He had just started collecting his retirement benefits about 8 months ago. My question is - can she apply for survivor benefits even though she's financially stable? They were smart with investments and have a good nest egg, plus he had excellent life insurance. She doesn't *need* the money, but obviously would take it if she's entitled. She's worried about taking benefits she doesn't truly need, but I told her she should at least look into it since she paid into the system through her husband all these years. Does anyone know if there are income/asset restrictions for survivor benefits? Or is she automatically eligible regardless of her financial situation?
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Declan Ramirez
Yes, she absolutely can and SHOULD claim survivor benefits! There are NO asset or income restrictions for Social Security survivor benefits. These aren't welfare - they're EARNED benefits based on her husband's work record. The only income that affects Social Security is earned income from working, not investment or retirement income. At 63, she would get approximately 79.6% of her husband's full retirement age (FRA) benefit amount. If he was already collecting when he passed, she would get what he was receiving (including any delayed retirement credits). If she waits until her own FRA (probably 66 + a few months), she'd get 100% of what he was receiving or would have received at his FRA. Tell her to contact SSA right away - survivor benefits can only be paid from the time of application, not retroactively from the date of death.
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A Man D Mortal
•Thank you so much for this information! I'll definitely tell her to apply right away. Do you happen to know if there's any disadvantage to applying now versus waiting until her FRA? I understand she'd get more monthly if she waits, but is there any other factor we should consider?
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Emma Morales
Your sister should definately apply!!! My mother was in the EXACT same situation (except she was 61 when my dad died). The social security office told her those survivor benefits are HERS by right. They don't check your bank accounts or assets for survivor benefits at all and who cares if she "needs" it? The govt will just waste that money if she doesn't claim it! Just a warning - it took my mom almost 3 months to get an appointment at our local office. The phone system is a NIGHTMARE and she got disconnected 8 times trying to call. She finally got thru after calling right when they opened at 8am.
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Katherine Hunter
•Sorry about your mom's experience with the SSA phone system. I had the same problem when helping my aunt with her survivor benefits. I found this service called Claimyr that got me through to an agent in under 10 minutes instead of waiting for hours or getting disconnected. It works by holding your place in line so you don't have to stay on the phone. I used it twice now and both times it worked perfectly. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU and their website is claimyr.com. Saved me so much frustration!
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Lucas Parker
One important strategic consideration for your sister: if her husband was a high earner who maximized his Social Security benefits, she should carefully consider WHEN she claims survivor benefits. Here's why: 1. If she claims at 63, she'll receive about 79.6% of his benefit amount for life 2. If she waits until her Full Retirement Age (likely 66 and 4 months for someone currently 63), she'll receive 100% of his benefit amount That's a difference of about 20.4% more monthly income for the rest of her life if she can wait approximately 3 years. Also, she should know that unlike regular retirement benefits, survivor benefits can be switched later. So if she has any earnings history of her own, she could potentially: - Take reduced survivor benefits now at 63 - Let her own retirement benefit grow until 70 - Switch to her own benefit at 70 if it would be higher Or alternatively: - Take her own reduced retirement benefit now if she qualifies - Switch to full survivor benefits at her FRA The optimal strategy depends on her own work history and financial situation. If she truly doesn't need the money immediately, waiting until FRA for survivor benefits might be the most advantageous option.
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Donna Cline
•Wait I didnt know you could switch between benefits?? I thought once you picked one you were stuck with it forever. Social security is so confusing!!
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Lucas Parker
•Yes, survivor benefits are unique in this way. The "deemed filing" rules that normally prevent switching between benefits don't apply to survivor benefits the same way they do to retirement and spousal benefits. You can switch between your own retirement benefit and survivor benefits to maximize your lifetime payout. This is one of the few remaining Social Security claiming strategies that offers real flexibility after the rule changes in 2015.
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Harper Collins
tell your sister to apply ASAP!! my husband passed 2 years ago and i waited 3 months to apply cause i was grieving and busy with everything else. big mistake!!! they only backpay 6 months max and i lost out on 3 weeks of payments i could have gotten. every $ counts these days with inflation so crazy
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A Man D Mortal
•I'm so sorry about your husband. Thank you for this advice - I'll make sure my sister knows to apply right away. I think she's also overwhelmed with everything else right now, but I'll help her prioritize this.
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Kelsey Hawkins
To add a slightly different perspective - your sister may want to consider the tax implications of taking survivor benefits while she doesn't need them. If she has substantial other income (which sounds likely), up to 85% of Social Security benefits become taxable. This doesn't mean not to take them, just to be aware that the effective value may be reduced by taxation if her income is high.
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Emma Morales
•This is true but she still comes out WAY ahead even after taxes!!! My brothers a CPA and he did the math for my mom. Even getting taxed at the highest rate, she still kept most of the money. And if she DOESNT take the money, the govt. gets 100% of it instead of her getting at least 65-70% after tax. No brainer!!!
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A Man D Mortal
Thank you all for your helpful responses! I just got off the phone with my sister and shared all this information. She's going to apply right away - she had no idea there weren't any income/asset restrictions. We're going to try using that Claimyr service someone mentioned to get through on the phone since all the SSA offices near her have 2+ month appointment backlogs. I also explained the potential strategy of waiting until her FRA for the full 100% benefit, but she said she'd rather start receiving something now. She's planning to meet with her financial advisor next week to discuss the tax implications. Thanks again everyone - this community has been so helpful during a difficult time!
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Declan Ramirez
•You're very welcome! One last tip - tell your sister to ask the SSA representative about the LUMP SUM DEATH BENEFIT when she applies. It's only $255, but many people don't know to ask for it and the SSA doesn't always volunteer the information. Every bit helps!
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Dylan Fisher
Social security is THEFT! They take our money our whole lives and then make it so complicated to get it back that half of people don't even get what they're entitled to! And what do you bet they'll change the rules again in a few years and cut benefits? The whole system is rigged!!
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Harper Collins
•thats not helpful for the persons question... they just wanna know how to help their sister get benefits she deserves
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