Can my brother claim Social Security survivor benefits 10 years after spouse's death?
My brother (64) has been collecting regular Social Security retirement benefits since last year. His wife passed away about 10 years ago when she was 58. She had worked most of her life and had a pretty good earnings record. Someone at his senior center mentioned he might be eligible for survivor benefits even though it's been a decade since she died. Is that actually true? Can he still apply for survivor benefits after all this time? And would it even be worth it if his own benefit is already decent ($2,100/month)? Just trying to help him maximize what he's entitled to receive.
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Jessica Nguyen
YES he absolutely can still claim survivor benefits!! There's no time limit for applying. I waited 7 years after my husband died before I claimed his benefits. Your brother needs to call SSA right away because he might be leaving money on the table every month.
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Cameron Black
•Really? That's good to know! I assumed there was some kind of deadline after the spouse passes. Do you know if they'll give him any back payments for the months he's missed?
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Isaiah Thompson
Your brother may be eligible for survivor benefits, but it depends on several factors. As a widower, he can receive up to 100% of his deceased wife's benefit amount if he waits until his full retirement age (FRA) to claim them. However, since he's already collecting his own retirement benefits, SSA will pay whichever benefit is higher - not both. If his wife's work record would provide a higher monthly benefit than his current $2,100, he should definitely apply. He'll need her death certificate, their marriage certificate, and both Social Security numbers when he applies. There's no deadline for applying for survivor benefits.
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Ruby Garcia
•This is correct. I work with seniors and see this situation often. If your brother's wife earned significantly more than him during her working years, it could definitely be worth applying. The SSA will calculate the maximum she would have received at her FRA and compare it to his current benefit.
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Alexander Evans
I went through something similar with my father. One important thing to know - the SSA won't automatically check if survivor benefits would be higher than your brother's own retirement benefit. He MUST specifically apply for survivor benefits. And no, unfortunately there are no retroactive payments going back 10 years - at most he might get 6 months of back payments from when he applies.
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Cameron Black
•Thanks for this info - he definitely would've assumed they'd automatically give him the better benefit. I'll make sure he specifically asks about survivor benefits when he contacts them.
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Evelyn Martinez
I tried calling about survivor benifits after my wife died and was on hold for HOURS and then got disconnected!!!! TWICE!!! The SSA is impossible to reach by phone these days. Your brother will waste days trying to get thru to someone.
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Benjamin Carter
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Maya Lewis
One thing that confuses me about SS survivor benefits - doesn't it matter how old his wife was when she died? Since she was only 58, would she have even been eligible for SS benefits? I thought you had to be receiving benefits already for your spouse to get survivor benefits later. Can someone explain this?
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Isaiah Thompson
•That's a common misconception. Your deceased spouse does NOT need to have been collecting Social Security benefits for you to claim survivor benefits. They only need to have worked long enough to be insured under Social Security (generally 10 years). The calculation is based on what they would have received at their full retirement age, even if they died well before reaching that age.
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Jessica Nguyen
ALSO he should know that he CANT apply for survivor benefits online!!!!! I tried and wasted hours filling out forms before finding out you have to call or go in person. The SSA website is SO frustrating and unclear about this.
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Ruby Garcia
•You're right - survivor benefits still require either a phone appointment or in-person visit. They haven't fully moved this application process online yet. However, he can start the process by calling the main number at 1-800-772-1213 to schedule an appointment specifically for survivor benefits.
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Alexander Evans
Something else your brother should consider - if he's already 64 and his FRA is 67 (for people born in 1960 or later), he's receiving a reduced retirement benefit by claiming early. This might make switching to survivor benefits more advantageous if his wife had a strong earnings record. The reduction for early retirement doesn't apply the same way to survivor benefits.
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Cameron Black
•That's interesting... he definitely took his retirement early because he needed the income. So you're saying the survivor benefits might be calculated differently? I'll tell him to specifically ask about that during his appointment.
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Benjamin Carter
my sister got survivor benefits 15 years after her husband died so yes its possible. good luck getting anyone at SS to answer the phone tho lol
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Isaiah Thompson
One final point that might help your brother: When he speaks with SSA, he should specifically ask them to run a computation for BOTH benefits - his own reduced retirement benefit AND what he'd receive as a survivor. The higher amount is what he'll get going forward. If the survivor benefit is higher, they'll essentially switch him to that benefit and discontinue his own retirement benefit.
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Cameron Black
•Thank you all for the helpful information! My brother has an appointment next week to discuss this with SSA. I'm going with him to make sure he asks all the right questions about comparing his current benefit to potential survivor benefits. I appreciate everyone's advice!
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