When do my child-in-care benefits end when daughter turns 16? Social Security payment confusion
I'm so confused about what happens with our Social Security benefits when my son turns 16 next month (December 18th). Currently, I receive child-in-care benefits on my ex-husband's record (he took early retirement at 63 last year). My upcoming direct deposits for December 15th show both my payment and my son's are still scheduled to go into my account like normal. I thought November would be my last month receiving the child-in-care benefit since he turns 16 in December? Also, doesn't my son's benefit amount need to change to 50% of his father's PIA (which would be about $2,250 based on his father's $4,500 benefit)? And I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that once he turns 16, he needs his own separate bank account for his benefits? I'm getting anxious because I don't want to accidentally receive benefits I'm not entitled to and then have to pay them back later. But I also don't want my son's payments to be disrupted during this transition. The SSA website isn't very clear about the exact timing of all these changes!
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Sean O'Connor
You're right to be checking this ahead of time! The child-in-care benefit will end the month BEFORE your son turns 16. Since his birthday is in December, your November payment should be your last one. As for your son's benefit, it should automatically adjust to 50% of his father's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), but this sometimes takes a payment cycle to update in the system. Regarding the bank account - yes, once a child turns 16, SSA prefers they have their own account, but it's not automatically required unless you're the representative payee and SSA determines separate accounts are needed. If you want to be proactive, you can contact SSA directly to update the payment information before his birthday.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•Thank you so much! That's what I thought about November being my last payment. But why would they still show a December payment scheduled for me? Should I call them to make sure they're not going to accidentally pay me for December?
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Zara Ahmed
this happened with my kid 2 yrs ago, don't panic! the system shows upcoming payments but they adjust them before they actually go out. ssA computers are from the stone age lol
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Anastasia Sokolov
•Oh thank goodness! So you think I should just wait and the December payment will probably not show up for me when the time comes? I'm so worried about getting overpaid and dealing with that whole mess.
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Luca Conti
The child-in-care benefit technically ends when the child turns 16, but SSA calculates this as the month before the child's 16th birthday. So your final payment should be for November. As for what you're seeing in the system - SSA's benefit systems often schedule payments in advance and then adjust them later. What's likely happening is that the December payment for you is still showing as scheduled, but will be removed from the system before the actual payment date. Regarding your son's benefit amount - yes, it should adjust to 50% of the worker's PIA (not necessarily 50% of what your ex-husband actually receives - those can be different if he took early retirement). This adjustment should happen automatically. For the bank account question, SSA strongly recommends children 16 and older have their own accounts, but it's not automatically required in all cases. If you're serving as a representative payee, you should contact your local office to discuss the transition.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•Thank you for the detailed explanation! I didn't realize there was a difference between his PIA and what he actually receives. He took retirement at 63, so I think his actual benefit is reduced. Does that mean my son might get more than 50% of what his father receives? And do I need to do anything to make sure my son's payment goes to the right amount, or will SSA handle that automatically?
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Nia Johnson
OMG the same thing happened to me!!! I freaked out when I saw payments scheduled that shouldn't be there. Don't waste your time calling - I spent THREE DAYS trying to get through to someone at SSA and kept getting disconnected. The system eventually fixed itself right before payment day. Trust me, SSA knows what they're doing (mostly lol).
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CyberNinja
•Wait, really? THREE DAYS of trying to call? That's ridiculous! I had a similar issue last year and discovered Claimyr (claimyr.com) - it's this service that gets you through to a real SSA agent usually within 30 minutes instead of waiting on hold forever or getting disconnected. Saved me so much frustration when I had to sort out my survivor benefits transition. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU
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Mateo Lopez
I recommend calling the SSA to confirm everything. Your understanding is correct - child-in-care benefits end when the child turns 16, which means November should be your last month of benefits. The child's benefit should automatically adjust, but it's not unusual for there to be a delay in the system updating. One important clarification: Your child's benefit will be 50% of your ex-husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is the benefit he would receive at full retirement age. Since your ex took early retirement, he's receiving a reduced benefit. Your child's benefit is based on the PIA, not the reduced amount. Regarding the bank account, SSA guidelines state that beneficiaries 16 and older should have their own accounts, but the implementation can vary. It's best to contact SSA directly to ensure a smooth transition.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•Thank you for explaining that! I think I understand now - my son might actually get more than half of what his dad currently receives because his dad took early retirement. That's good news! I'll definitely call SSA to make sure everything transitions smoothly.
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Aisha Abdullah
The same thing happened when my kid turned 16 last year. The payments scheduled in MySSA were wrong for like 2 weeks, then magically fixed themselves before the actual payment date. SSA's computer systems are notoriously outdated. I wouldn't worry too much unless you actually receive an incorrect payment.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•That's reassuring to hear! I was starting to think I was misunderstanding the rules. I'll keep an eye on it and hopefully it'll update itself before the payment date.
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Nia Johnson
wait did u say ur ex gets $4500?? that seems WAY high for SS benefits. r u sure that's right? max benefit for 2023 is like $3600 or something
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Sean O'Connor
•You're thinking of the maximum at full retirement age which is around $3,627 for 2023. But the absolute maximum for someone who delays until 70 is higher - closer to $4,555. But you're right that $4,500 would be at the very top end of possible benefits.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•Sorry for the confusion! I was just using rough numbers in my original post. His actual benefit is around $3,300, so my son's would be about $1,650 (if it's 50% of that). But now I'm learning it might be based on a different amount called the PIA?
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Luca Conti
After reading through this thread, I think we've clarified the main points, but let me summarize to make sure: 1. Your child-in-care benefits will end in November (the month before your son turns 16) 2. What you're seeing in the MySSA portal about December payments is likely just the system not being updated yet 3. Your son's benefit will be based on 50% of your ex-husband's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), not 50% of his actual reduced benefit 4. While it's recommended for 16-year-olds to have their own bank accounts for benefits, you should contact SSA to confirm how this transition should happen in your specific case The most important thing is not to worry about what you're seeing in the portal right now - those scheduled payments often adjust automatically before the actual payment date. If you're still concerned, contact SSA directly to verify everything is set up correctly for the transition.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•Thank you SO much for this clear summary! I feel so much better now. I was really stressing about potentially getting overpaid and having to deal with repaying SSA. I'll give it another week to see if the portal updates on its own, and if not, I'll contact them directly.
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CyberNinja
If you do need to contact SSA about this, be prepared for a long wait. When my daughter turned 16 last year, I had to call them because her benefit amount didn't adjust properly. I spent over 4 hours on hold across multiple days before I finally got through! If you have a complicated situation like this, you really need to speak with a live person who can see all the details in your file.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•4 hours?! That's insane! I might try going to my local office instead of calling. Though I've heard the wait times there can be bad too. Is there a best time of day to call?
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Aisha Abdullah
@profile3 is right about those wait times! I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) when I had a similar issue with my son's benefits. They got me through to SSA in like 20 minutes instead of waiting for hours. There's a demo video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. It was totally worth it to avoid the frustration of being on hold all day.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely check that out if I end up needing to call. I've wasted so many hours on hold with government agencies before, and it's especially hard when I need to be at work.
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Zara Ahmed
does anyone know if the kid's benefit amount changes right away or is there a delay? my son turns 16 next month too and i'm trying to budget
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Mateo Lopez
•In most cases, the child's benefit amount adjusts automatically in the system for the payment after they turn 16. However, if there are multiple beneficiaries on the same record (like other children or ex-spouses), there could be family maximum limit considerations that might affect the exact amount. The adjustment should take place for the month of the 16th birthday, but sometimes there's a processing delay and SSA will send any adjustment as backpay.
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Zara Ahmed
•thx for explaining! guess i'll plan for it to change but not count on the exact timing
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Sean O'Connor
I notice some confusion in this thread about PIA vs. actual benefit amount. To clarify: When someone takes early retirement (before their Full Retirement Age), they receive a reduced benefit. However, children's benefits and spouse's benefits are calculated based on the PIA (what the worker would get at Full Retirement Age), not on the reduced amount the retired worker actually receives. This is why a child might receive more than 50% of what the retired parent actually gets, especially if that parent took benefits early. It's one of the more complex aspects of Social Security that confuses many people!
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Anastasia Sokolov
•Thank you for explaining this so clearly! This makes much more sense now. So my ex took retirement at 63, which reduced his benefit, but my son's 50% is calculated on what he WOULD have received at his full retirement age? That's actually really good news for my son's benefit amount.
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Nia Johnson
i just realized something - you said your kid is turning 16, but does he have any disabilities? my nephew is disabled and he was able to keep getting benefits after 18, and my sister (his mom) kept her benefits too because she still takes care of him full time
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Anastasia Sokolov
•No, he doesn't have any disabilities. He's a typical teenager, so I know his benefits will continue until he graduates high school (as long as he's still 19 when he graduates), but my benefits as the caretaker parent definitely end when he turns 16. Thanks for checking though!
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