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Social Security benefits after WEP reduction - should I claim at 62 or wait until FRA with survivor benefits?

So confused about my SS options after my TRS pension triggered WEP! I retired from my Texas school district job in May 2025 and started receiving my teacher's pension. My husband passed away in June 2023, and I began collecting survivor benefits in 2024. The SSA reduced my survivor benefits by $1,110 because of my TRS pension (that Windfall Elimination Provision is brutal). Even though I submitted everything before my retirement and sent my TRS award letter immediately, they're now saying I owe them $4,375 for 4 months of 'overpayments.' When I brought in documentation for my appeal, the representative admitted they already had the information before I submitted the letter, but they still denied my waiver request! Now I'm trying to figure out my next steps. I was born in 1960, turning 65 in three months. Should I: 1) File for my own SS retirement at 62, or wait until 67 (my FRA)? 2) Keep the survivor benefits (with WEP reduction) and delay my own? 3) Switch to something else? My late husband was born in 1943, worked as a mechanic and volunteered as a firefighter for 24 years in a northern state. He retired around 2005-2006. Is there a difference between survivor benefits and drawing off my late husband's record? It's all so confusing with the WEP reduction and overpayment mess. My brain is complete mush trying to figure this out!

There's a lot to unpack here, but I'll try to clarify some things: 1. What you're experiencing is actually GPO (Government Pension Offset), not WEP. GPO reduces survivor benefits for those with government pensions not covered by Social Security, while WEP affects your own SS retirement benefits. 2. Survivor benefits and "drawing off your late husband's record" are the same thing. 3. For someone born in 1960, your FRA is 67. You can claim your own SS retirement as early as 62 with a 30% reduction. 4. Given your situation, you should compare these options: - Continue with reduced survivor benefits - Switch to your own reduced benefits at 62 - Wait until FRA to claim unreduced benefits The best strategy depends on the exact benefit amounts. Generally, you'd want to take the higher benefit now and switch to the other at the age when it becomes larger.

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Thank you for explaining! I get so confused between GPO and WEP. So if I understand correctly, I'm already receiving survivor benefits (reduced by GPO). But I still need to decide whether to: 1. Keep these reduced survivor benefits and then file for my own SS at 62 (reduced for early filing) 2. Keep the reduced survivor benefits until my FRA at 67, then switch to my own unreduced benefits Is that right? How do I find out which would give me more money in the long run?

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Sofia Morales

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The SSA is TERRIBLE at explaining this stuff!! I went through something similar with my pension from the county government. They hit me with an overpayment of $6,200 and denied my waiver too, even though I reported EVERYTHING on time!! Have you tried appealing the overpayment decision? You can request a reconsideration and then go to an Administrative Law Judge if needed. DON'T give up on that $4,375!!! As for your benefits, did they give you estimates of what YOUR retirement benefit would be at 62 vs. 67? That's the CRITICAL information you need to make this decision.

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Thanks for the support! I filed the reconsideration but they denied it. I'm now trying to decide if it's worth going to the ALJ level or just setting up a payment plan. It's so frustrating because I really did report everything on time! I don't have a clear estimate of my own benefits yet. I guess I should create an account on the SSA website and check? Or should I try to talk to someone at the office?

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Dmitry Popov

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Thank you for the tip! I've been trying to get through to SSA for weeks. I'll definitely check out that service - getting exact numbers would help tremendously with this decision.

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Ava Garcia

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my husband was a firefighter too and i had similar confusion. best thing is to take the HIGHEST benefit now. for me that was survivors even after GPO reduction. then at 70 i switched to my own ss which had grown bigger with delayed credits. worked out great

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That's helpful to hear! Did you have to deal with an overpayment situation too? I'm worried about making another mistake and getting hit with more penalties.

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StarSailor}

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You need to run the exact numbers. This is actually a math problem! I did a whole spreadsheet when making this decision. Have SS print out your estimated benefits at different ages and then calculate your lifetime total based on your expected lifespan.

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Ava Garcia

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agree but most people dont live to their "expected" lifespan lol. my sister waited to file and then passed at 68. got almost nothing from ss after paying in her whole life. sometimes bird in hand is better

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Miguel Silva

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I'm a retired financial advisor who specialized in Social Security planning, and I can tell you there's no one-size-fits-all answer here. The best approach depends on several factors: 1. The exact amount of your survivor benefit after GPO reduction 2. Your own earning history and projected SS benefit 3. Your health and family longevity 4. Your current and future income needs Generally speaking, if your own benefit at FRA would be significantly higher than your reduced survivor benefit, it might make sense to: - Keep the reduced survivor benefit now - Switch to your own benefit at FRA (67) But if your survivor benefit is substantially higher than your own would ever be, then keeping it long-term may be best. Regarding the overpayment: unfortunately, this is common with GPO situations. Even when you report correctly, SSA often doesn't process the information properly. Definitely appeal if possible, or request a payment plan with the lowest possible monthly amount if you must repay.

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Thank you for such a detailed explanation! This actually makes sense. I need to find out what my own benefit would be at different ages to compare with the survivor benefit I'm already receiving. Assuming my survivor benefit is around $1,200/month after the GPO reduction, what would my own benefit need to be at FRA to make waiting worthwhile?

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Zainab Ismail

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u can definitely file for ur own SS at 62 but youll get a reduced amount. whether thats better than survivor benefits depends on the numbers. most ppl dont realize u can switch between the two at different times to maximize.

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Miguel Silva

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This is correct. Unlike retirement and spousal benefits (where you can only claim one), with survivor benefits you can switch between your own retirement benefit and the survivor benefit at different times. This creates planning opportunities that many people miss.

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StarSailor}

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My cousin had an overpayment because of GPO too and it was a nightmare! She ended up on a 36-month payment plan. But about your actual question - call SSA and ask for a PEBES statement that shows your estimated benefit amounts at different ages. That's the only way to make an informed decision.

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Sofia Morales

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Good luck CALLING them!! I tried for WEEKS and couldn't get through. Either busy signals or disconnected after waiting forever!!! The whole system is designed to make us give up!!!

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Dmitry Popov

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After getting clear numbers from SSA, I'd recommend calculating your "break-even age" for different filing scenarios. For example, if you take reduced benefits at 62 vs. full benefits at 67, how long would you need to live past 67 for the delayed filing to pay more in total? Many people don't realize that filing early can make sense if you don't expect to live well into your 80s or if you need the income now.

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That's a good point about the break-even calculation. My health is generally good, and people in my family tend to live into their late 80s. I guess that might suggest waiting until FRA would be better in my case?

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Ava Garcia

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did u try asking for a supervisor when they denied your waiver? sometimes the first person just says no to everything but a supervisor can actually help

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I didn't think to ask for a supervisor! That's a good idea. I'll try calling again (if I can get through) and specifically request to speak with a supervisor about the waiver denial. Thanks for the suggestion!

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