Will Social Security still reduce my survivors benefit after FRA if I'm working? Can I get deductions refunded?
I'm planning to claim my widow's benefits when I turn 64 next month while continuing to work full-time. I understand my survivor benefits will be reduced because I'm claiming early and also due to the earnings test. My question is: once I reach my Full Retirement Age (which is 67 for me), will they still apply the earnings deduction to my survivors benefit even though I'll still be working? And if the deductions stop at FRA, will Social Security pay me back all the money they previously withheld from my checks because of my earnings? I'm trying to budget for the next few years and figure out if I should just wait until FRA to claim. Thanks for any clarity on this!
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Isabella Silva
Good questions about survivor benefits! Once you reach your Full Retirement Age, the earnings test no longer applies - so they will NOT reduce your survivors benefit regardless of how much you earn from working. This is a nice advantage of reaching FRA. As for getting back money that was previously withheld due to the earnings test, SSA will recalculate your benefit and give you credit for the months your benefits were withheld or reduced. This doesn't come as a lump sum repayment, but rather as a permanent increase to your monthly benefit amount going forward after FRA. Hope that helps with your planning!
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Malik Robinson
•Thank you so much! So just to be clear - I'll get some form of 'credit' for those withheld amounts, but not the actual full amount back? And that credit comes in the form of a higher monthly payment after FRA? I'm trying to figure out if it makes more sense financially to just wait until FRA to claim.
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Ravi Choudhury
my mother in law went thru this exact thing!! they definitely stop taking $ out once u hit FRA no matter how much u make. she was SO happy when that happened last yr. but she never got a lump sum of what they took b4. i think they just adjust something with your benefit going forward?? not sure exactly how that works tbh
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Malik Robinson
•Thanks for sharing that! Good to hear from someone who's seen this firsthand. So it sounds like they definitely stop the reductions, which is a relief. I wish they'd just give back what they took though!
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Freya Andersen
The previous responses are partially correct, but I want to clarify something important. When you reach FRA, SSA will recalculate your benefit and give you credit for months when benefits were completely withheld due to work. This is called an "adjustment to the reduction factor" (ARF). However, they do NOT give you credit for partial reductions - only for complete months where you received zero benefits due to earnings. Also, this recalculation only applies to early retirement reductions, not earnings test withholdings. So you may see a small increase at FRA, but you won't get back everything that was withheld.
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Malik Robinson
•Oh, that's really important information and different than what I understood. So basically I'll get some adjustment but not full credit for all withholdings? That definitely impacts my decision. Do you know if there's a way to calculate ahead of time how much that adjustment might be?
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Omar Farouk
im in almost the same boat!! started my survivors at 63 and they take so much out cuz i still work its barely worth getting. but i heard that when u hit FRA they STOP taking out the money and they ADD BACK some amount to make up for it. not exactly what they took but something. better than nothing i guess!!
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CosmicCadet
•Actually not quite right. They don't "add back" money they took. What happens is they adjust your reduction percentage. So if you were getting a benefit reduced by claiming 36 months early, but had benefits withheld for 6 of those months due to earnings, they'd recalculate as if you'd only claimed 30 months early. It's not a direct repayment of withheld benefits.
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Chloe Harris
The entire earnings test is SO UNFAIR!! The government takes OUR money that WE earned just because we choose to keep working?? And then they don't even fully pay us back?! I've been fighting with SSA for MONTHS about this exact issue. They took nearly $8000 from my survivor benefits last year because I made too much. Called repeatedly and either got disconnected or told different things by different reps. This system punishes people who work hard!
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Diego Mendoza
•I understand your frustration with the earnings test. It can feel punitive to those who continue working. However, it's based on the principle that Social Security is meant to replace lost income. If you're still working and earning above the limit, you technically haven't "lost" the income that SS is designed to replace. The recalculation at FRA is meant to be a compromise. But your experience with getting inconsistent information is unfortunately common when dealing with SSA representatives.
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CosmicCadet
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Malik Robinson
•I hadn't heard of this service before. The hold times are definitely frustrating - I tried calling twice last week and gave up after 45+ minutes each time. I'll look into this, thanks for the suggestion!
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Diego Mendoza
To add some specifics that might help your decision: When you claim survivors benefits at 64, they'll be reduced by about 14.7% from what you'd receive at your FRA. Then, while working, you'll lose $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the annual exempt amount ($22,320 in 2025). After FRA, the earnings test disappears completely. As for budgeting, you should weigh these reductions against what you'd gain by waiting. The advantage of taking survivors benefits early while working is that it allows you to delay claiming your own retirement benefit, which can grow by 8% per year until age 70. This strategy often yields higher lifetime benefits for widows/widowers with their own work history.
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Malik Robinson
•This is really helpful - thank you! I hadn't considered the strategy of taking reduced survivors now to let my own retirement benefit grow. My own benefit at 70 would be higher than my survivor benefit, so that's definitely something to think about. The whole Social Security system is so complicated!
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Ravi Choudhury
just want 2 add something i just remembered - my friend tried to talk to SS about this and they told her something about a "special monthly rule" for the year u start benefits or the year u retire. has anybuddy heard of this? something about if u make under a certain amount in a month they might not take out $ even if ur yearly income is over the limit??
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Isabella Silva
•Yes, that's correct! It's called the Monthly Earnings Test. In the first year you receive benefits, SSA can use a monthly test rather than the annual test. So even if you earn over the annual limit, you can receive benefits for any month you earn under the monthly limit (which is the annual limit divided by 12). This can be very helpful in the year you start benefits or the year you retire. Good catch!
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Malik Robinson
Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I think I'm going to go ahead with my plan to claim survivors benefits at 64 while continuing to work, understanding that: 1) Yes, they'll reduce my benefit now due to early claiming and the earnings test 2) The earnings test will completely disappear at my FRA 3) I'll get some adjustment at FRA for completely withheld months, but not a full payback 4) I can let my own retirement benefit grow until 70 which might be the better long-term strategy I really appreciate all the insights and personal experiences shared here. Social Security decisions are so complicated, and it helps to hear from others who've been through it!
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Omar Farouk
•sounds like a smart plan! thats what im doing 2. its nice to get SOMETHING now even if its reduced. and then when we hit FRA we get more and can decide about our own benefits! good luck!
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Olivia Martinez
Great summary of your plan! Just wanted to add one more consideration that might help with your budgeting - make sure to factor in that your survivor benefits will be subject to federal income tax if your combined income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of your Social Security benefits) exceeds certain thresholds. Since you're continuing to work full-time, you'll likely hit those thresholds. This doesn't change the math much, but it's good to plan for the tax implications when budgeting for the next few years. The earnings test and tax on benefits are separate issues that both affect your net income from Social Security.
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