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I just turned 65 and trying to navigate this complex widow situation with SS benefits. My late husband made about 2.5x what I earned over his career. I've scheduled a phone appointment with SSA for next week, but I'm so anxious about making the wrong decision! My current plan is to: - Start my OWN reduced retirement benefit on January 1, 2025 - Reduce my work hours to stay under the 2025 earnings limit (around $22,320 I think?) - When I reach my Full Retirement Age, switch to my husband's survivor benefits The timing works well because my husband's pension payments will end right as I reach FRA (that's how he selected the payment structure). So I'll need that additional income from the survivor benefits, but don't want to increase my work hours. Does this strategy maximize my benefits? Are there other options I'm not seeing? I've heard conflicting advice from friends and family. Some say take survivor benefits first, others say my plan makes sense. I'm worried about making a mistake that will cost me thousands over my lifetime. Thank you for any insights before my official SSA appointment!
I recently found out that you can claim benefits based on an ex-spouse's Social Security record, and I'm trying to figure out if I qualify. I'm 59 years old and my ex-husband is 70. We were married for 22 years before divorcing about 8 years ago. He's already collecting his retirement benefits (I think he started at his full retirement age). Can I start claiming ex-spousal benefits now at 59, or do I have to wait until I'm a certain age? I haven't remarried and I'm still working part-time, but honestly could really use the extra income. My own Social Security benefits would be much lower than his because I took a lot of years off to raise our kids. I tried calling the SSA office but got disconnected twice and then gave up. Any advice would be appreciated!
One last thing to consider: if your ex-spouse passes away before you claim benefits, the rules change. As a surviving divorced spouse, you could claim survivor benefits as early as age 60 (or 50 if disabled). Survivor benefits are different from ex-spousal benefits. Not something to hope for, of course, but important to know in case that situation arises.
I just went through this exact process last year! I was 61 when I started researching and had to wait until 62 just like you. One tip that really helped me: about 3-4 months before your 62nd birthday, you can actually start the application process. Don't wait until the day you turn 62 because processing can take time. Also, since you mentioned struggling financially, look into whether your state has a Senior Community Service Employment Program (SCSEP). It's specifically for people 55+ with lower incomes and can provide part-time work and training while you're waiting to be eligible for benefits. I found it through my local Area Agency on Aging and it really helped bridge the gap. The waiting is hard, but you're so close! Just two and a half more years and you'll have that extra financial security.
So frustrated with my SS appointment yesterday! I'm planning to retire next year (I'll be 63) and wanted to find out what I could get from my ex-husband's record since we were married for 22 years. He worked for the Army for 8 years and then the Postal Service for 25 years before retiring with a FERS pension in 2019.When I went to SSA to check what divorced spouse benefits I might qualify for, the rep immediately told me I wouldn't get anything because of his federal pension. I thought GPO (Government Pension Offset) only applied if I was the one with the government pension, not my ex? I'm so confused and disappointed since I was counting on getting something to help with retirement planning. Does anyone know if this is correct? Can my ex's federal pension really prevent me from claiming divorced spouse benefits on his record? I worked mainly part-time jobs while raising our kids, so my own benefit will be pretty small.
Congratulations on getting this sorted out! This is a perfect example of why it's so important to advocate for yourself when dealing with government agencies. The first representative clearly didn't understand the rules around divorced spouse benefits and federal pensions. For anyone else reading this thread who might face similar issues: always ask for a supervisor or technical expert if the information you're getting doesn't align with what you've researched or sounds inconsistent. SSA representatives are human and can make mistakes, especially with complex scenarios involving federal employment and divorced spouse benefits. Your persistence really paid off here, and I'm sure this thread will help other people in similar situations who might get incorrect information initially.
I'm turning 62 in December and thinking of claiming SS retirement benefits starting this January. I currently work part-time at a garden center making around $1,400-1,700 monthly, which I think keeps me under the 2025 earnings limit. What's confusing me is how the earnings limit works in that first year. Is it true that if I start benefits in January, they'll use the annual limit ($22,500?) for the whole year rather than counting month-by-month? And what happens if I accidentally go over - like if I get extra holiday hours in November/December? Do they take back all my benefits or just reduce them? Also wondering when I should actually submit my application to make sure my payments start in January. I tried calling SSA last week but couldn't get through after waiting 2+ hours!
I started my benefits last year at 62 and I made sure to stay juuuust under the earnings limit. My sister went over by accident and they sent her this scary letter and stopped her benefits for like 3 months! Just keep really good track of what your earning. My boss was cool about it and would let me know when I was getting close to the limit so I could take time off if needed.
That's good advice about tracking earnings carefully! One thing to add though - I've found the SSA's my Social Security online account is really helpful for this. You can check your reported earnings throughout the year to make sure you're staying under the limit. It's not real-time, but it helps catch potential problems before they become big issues at tax time.
Just wanted to add one more important detail that I learned the hard way - make sure you report ALL income sources to SSA when you apply, not just your main job. I forgot to mention some occasional weekend work I did helping neighbors with yard cleanups, and it came back to bite me during their annual review. Even cash payments count toward the earnings limit! Also, if you're getting any 1099 income (like if the garden center classifies you as a contractor instead of an employee), that counts too. The SSA gets copies of all your tax documents anyway, so it's better to be upfront about everything from the start.
My Social Security survivor benefits phone interview is scheduled for next week, and I'm completely overwhelmed with anxiety. My husband passed away last year after 30+ years of marriage, and this whole process feels unnecessarily complicated. I've been trying to gather documentation, but everything's going wrong. My printer decided to malfunction when trying to print my SS earnings record (which I read will disappear from the system after I apply?). Then I tried ordering certified copies of our marriage certificate online from VitalChek, and they claim the fax went through but haven't charged me or sent anything. Now they're telling me to "deal with the county" even though I paid THEM! I still have our original marriage certificate but don't want to risk losing it by handing it over. My biggest concern: I want to make sure I preserve my right to switch from survivor benefits at 60 to my own retirement benefits at 70 if that ends up being higher. What specific language do I need to use during the interview to protect this option? Also, one of the questions asks if we were living together when my spouse died. He was in the hospital for several weeks before passing, so technically no? But we were absolutely still married and hadn't separated. How do I answer this without causing problems? I'm having actual panic attacks about this interview. The rules seem deliberately confusing - like they're designed to make people mess up. Any advice from someone who's been through this would be so appreciated.
One thing I didn't see mentioned - make sure you understand how working affects your survivor benefits if you're planning to continue working. Since you're under full retirement age, there's an earnings limit ($22,320 for 2025), and they deduct $1 for every $2 you earn above that limit. This doesn't apply after you reach your full retirement age. Also, the survivor benefit amount is based on several factors: your age when you claim, whether your husband had already started his benefits, and if he hadn't, whether you claim before or after his full retirement age. It can get confusing, so don't hesitate to ask the interviewer to explain exactly how your benefit amount was calculated.
I'm so sorry for your loss, and I completely understand the anxiety around this process. I went through my survivor benefits interview about 18 months ago, and while it was nerve-wracking beforehand, the actual interview was much more straightforward than I expected. A few additional tips that helped me: - Have a glass of water nearby during the call. When you're nervous, your mouth can get dry and it helps to stay hydrated. - If you don't understand something they're explaining, it's perfectly okay to say "Could you repeat that more slowly?" or "I want to make sure I understand - are you saying...?" They're used to people needing clarification. - The representatives are generally patient and understanding. Remember, they deal with grieving spouses regularly and know this is a difficult time. Regarding your earnings, since you're under the $22,320 limit, you should be fine. Just be honest about your work situation - they appreciate transparency. You've gotten excellent advice here about the "restrict to widow's benefits only" language. The fact that you're prepared with the right terminology puts you way ahead of where I was! You're going to do better than you think. Please do update us after your interview - it might help the next person going through this.
Isla Fischer
Don't forget about the family maximum limit! That can really mess up your expectations if multiple people are collecting on one record. Ask the rep specifically if the family maximum applies in your case.
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Ruby Blake
The family maximum typically won't be an issue for a widow with no dependent children also collecting benefits. Since the OP appears to be the only one collecting on her late husband's record, she should receive the full survivor benefit amount without reduction due to family maximum provisions.
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Isabella Russo
Your strategy sounds solid! As someone who recently went through a similar decision process, I'd suggest writing down your key questions beforehand so you don't forget anything during the call. Also, don't be surprised if you get pushback from the SSA rep - some aren't familiar with this strategy. One thing that helped me was asking for a written estimate of both scenarios (your plan vs. taking survivor benefits first) so I could compare the lifetime totals. The SSA can provide benefit estimates for different claiming strategies. Also, since you mentioned being anxious about the decision - remember that if something changes in your situation later, you generally have 12 months to withdraw your application and try a different approach (though you'd have to pay back any benefits received). It's not as permanent as it feels! Good luck with your appointment next week!
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