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one thing nobody mentioned - make sure ur doing guardianship paperwork before she turns 18!!! we didnt realize we needed that and it was a NIGHTMARE when my nephew turned 18 even tho he functions like a 7 yr old
I'm a retired SSA employee and wanted to add some clarity to this discussion. First, your granddaughter can indeed potentially receive benefits on your record if it would be higher - this is called "dual entitlement" and SSA is supposed to automatically pay whichever is higher, but sometimes you need to specifically request the comparison. However, I want to echo the Medicaid warnings here - this is CRITICAL. Many states have "spend down" programs or disability waivers that might protect her coverage even with higher income, but you absolutely must verify this BEFORE making any changes. A few additional points: - At 73, your benefit amount is likely significantly higher than your son's was at 29, so there's a good chance she'd get more on your record - She should qualify as a "child disability beneficiary" which means benefits can continue past 18 if she remains disabled - Document everything about her current medical needs and expenses - this will be important for both SSA and Medicaid reviews I'd strongly recommend visiting your local SSA office with all her medical documentation and requesting a formal benefit calculation comparison. Don't rely on phone calls for something this important.
I did this in November it was really easy actually. The call lasted 15 minutes they just asked for my husbands ssn and marriage date and added the spousal part to my existing benifits. Money showed up 2 weeks later in my direct deposit.
That's encouraging! Did they explain how they calculated the amount or did they just tell you what you'd be getting?
As someone who just went through this process last month, I wanted to share a few practical tips for your upcoming call: 1. Have a calculator ready - it really helps to do the math yourself as they explain it. My rep walked me through it step by step which made everything much clearer. 2. Ask them to email or mail you a summary of the calculation after the call. This way you have it in writing and can review it later. 3. If your case is approved, ask about the effective date. Mine was retroactive to when I first became eligible, which resulted in a nice lump sum payment. 4. Don't be discouraged if the first rep seems unsure - I had to call back once because the first person gave me conflicting information about my early retirement reduction. The whole process took about 3 weeks from application to first payment, and I was really glad I applied. Given the difference between your benefits ($950 vs $2800), you'll very likely qualify for additional spousal benefits. Good luck with your call on the 24th!
This is exactly the kind of detailed advice I was hoping for! Thank you so much. I'm definitely going to ask for that summary in writing - that's a great idea I wouldn't have thought of. The retroactive payment possibility is really encouraging too. Did they tell you upfront that it would be retroactive, or was that a surprise when you received it?
Just to summarize what's been shared: you made the right choice filing at your FRA for your own benefit of $2200. When your husband files at 70, you'll continue receiving your own benefit since it exceeds what you'd get as a spouse (which would be 50% of his PIA, not 50% of his age-70 amount). Most importantly, if he predeceases you, you would step up to his full $3800 monthly benefit as a survivor. This is exactly why financial advisors often recommend the higher-earning spouse delay benefits until 70 - it creates a form of "longevity insurance" for the surviving spouse.
As a newcomer here, I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who contributed such helpful explanations! I'm approaching a similar situation with my own Social Security planning and this thread has been incredibly educational. The distinction between PIA vs. age-70 benefits for spousal calculations was something I didn't understand before. It's also reassuring to see how the survivor benefit works - that seems like such an important protection for couples where one spouse earned significantly more. One thing I'm curious about - does anyone know if there are any annual limits or caps on survivor benefits? Or would Nia really get the full $3800 monthly that her husband would be receiving at age 70?
Welcome to the community! Great question about survivor benefit limits. There are no annual caps on survivor benefits themselves - Nia would indeed receive the full $3800 monthly that her husband would be getting at age 70. However, survivor benefits can be subject to the overall family maximum, though this rarely affects a surviving spouse when they're the only beneficiary. The survivor benefit essentially replaces the deceased spouse's benefit, so if he was entitled to $3800 at age 70, that's what she'd receive. The only potential reduction would be if she claimed survivor benefits before her own full retirement age, but since she's already at FRA, she'd get the full amount.
The remarriage rule for widow's benefits only applies when you remarry someone OTHER than your deceased spouse. Since you remarried your same husband (not a different person), the "remarriage before age 60" restriction doesn't apply to your situation. When your husband passes away, you should be eligible for widow's benefits based on his earnings record, regardless of the fact that you remarried him before age 60. The key distinction is that you didn't marry a new person - you reconciled with and remarried your original spouse. I'd recommend contacting your local SSA office to confirm this applies to your specific situation and get it documented in your records.
@Laila Prince Thank you. The before age 60 rule for widow s'benefits is very confusing.
Ava Thompson
My cousin retired last year and she told me that the first $22,320 you make in a year doesn't count at all against Social Security regardless of when you earn it. But then her neighbor told her that was wrong and now she's all confused too. The Social Security rules are so complicated!!! Why can't they just make it simple?
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NeonNomad
•Your cousin's neighbor is correct that the information is wrong. The $22,320 annual limit applies in years after your first year of receiving benefits. In the first year, SSA only looks at your monthly earnings after you start receiving benefits, using the $1860/month limit. The Social Security Administration could definitely do a better job explaining these rules!
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PaulineW
I went through this exact same situation two years ago and wanted to share what I learned. The monthly earnings test ($1860/month) only applies AFTER you start collecting benefits in August. Your January-July earnings won't affect your Social Security at all. However, here's something crucial that saved me from problems: make sure you understand how SSA defines "earnings" for that monthly test. It's not just regular wages - it includes any compensation for services you perform in that month. So if you do any consulting work, freelance projects, or even help a friend with their business for pay after August, that counts toward the $1860 limit. Also, I'd strongly recommend calling SSA about 2-3 months before you plan to start benefits to go over your specific situation. Yes, it's hard to get through, but it's worth it to avoid any surprises. When I called, they walked me through exactly what would and wouldn't count as earnings in my first year. One more tip: keep detailed records of when you officially stop working and any final payments you receive. SSA may ask for documentation later to verify your earnings timeline.
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Liam O'Reilly
•This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about the consulting/freelance angle - I was planning to maybe do some part-time consulting work after I retire, so I'll need to be careful about that timing. The idea about calling SSA a few months ahead is smart too, even if it's a hassle to get through. Better to sort this out beforehand than deal with problems later. Thanks for sharing your experience!
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