Can I take my reduced SS retirement now at 65 and spousal benefits later at FRA? Divorced spouse questions
Hi everyone - my financial situation has changed, and I need to start collecting Social Security earlier than I planned. I just turned 65 last month, but my full retirement age is 66 and 10 months. I know I'll get a permanent reduction for claiming early, but I need the income now. My situation is a bit complicated. My ex-husband earned WAY more than me during our 15-year marriage (we've been divorced for almost 16 years now). I know I'm eligible for some kind of ex-spouse benefit, but I'm totally confused about the timing: 1. If I take my own reduced benefit now at 65, can I wait and switch to the ex-spouse benefit when I reach my FRA to get a higher amount? 2. Is there any way to find out how much the ex-spouse amount would be WITHOUT actually applying for it? I honestly have no idea if it would be higher than my own. 3. I don't know if my ex is collecting yet - he's past his FRA but not 70 yet. Does that affect my options? 4. If he passes away (not wishing that!), are survivor benefits different from spousal benefits? Would I need to apply for those separately? I've tried reading the SSA website but ended up more confused than when I started! Any advice would be SO appreciated. Thanks!
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Amara Nnamani
Unfortunately, the "claim now, claim more later" strategy you're describing is no longer available for anyone born after January 1, 1954. Due to changes from the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015, when you file for any retirement benefit now, you're deemed to be filing for ALL benefits you're eligible for, including ex-spouse benefits. Basically, when you apply, the SSA will calculate both your own retirement benefit and any ex-spouse benefit you're entitled to, and give you whichever is higher. You won't be able to switch later. If your ex-husband passes away, that's different - survivor benefits can be claimed separately from retirement benefits, even under the new rules. And yes, survivor benefits are typically higher than spousal benefits (up to 100% of what he received versus 50% for spousal).
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Liam Fitzgerald
•Oh no! I had no idea about those rule changes. That really limits my options then. So I basically have to decide whether to take everything now at a reduced rate or wait until my FRA for the full amount? Is there ANY way to find out what my ex-spouse benefit might be without actually applying?
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Giovanni Mancini
i went thru this last yr!!! u need to call ssa and ask for a benefit ESTIMATE based on ur X's record. but they wont tell u exactly what he makes/made, just what YOUR benefit would be. its frustrating!!! i tried online but couldnt figure it out. had to call. took FOREVER to get thru!!!
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Liam Fitzgerald
•Thanks for sharing your experience! That's exactly what I was afraid of - the endless phone wait. Did they at least give you a decent estimate once you finally got through? I'm trying to make this decision pretty quickly with my changed financial situation.
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NebulaNinja
I'm a retired claims specialist, and I can provide some clarification here: 1. As mentioned above, the deemed filing rules mean you'll get the higher of your own benefit or the spousal benefit (technically, you get your own plus the difference if the spousal is higher). 2. For an accurate estimate on your ex-spouse's record, you need to contact SSA directly. They can calculate this without processing an actual claim. 3. Regarding your ex not claiming yet - this actually doesn't matter for divorced spouse benefits as long as you've been divorced for at least 2 years (which you have). Even if he hasn't filed yet, you can still receive benefits on his record if you're eligible. 4. For survivor benefits: Yes, these would be up to 100% of what he was receiving if you claim at your FRA (or what he would have received if he hadn't claimed yet). If you claim survivor benefits early, they're reduced. Also, if you're still working, be aware of the earnings limit before FRA ($22,320 for 2025). Exceed that and they'll withhold $1 for every $2 above the limit.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•Question about this - I'm in a similar boat, but I'm turning 65 next month. I heard that any benefits withheld due to the earnings limit get added back once you reach FRA. Is that accurate? So it's not really a "penalty" but more of a deferral, right?
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NebulaNinja
•Yes, that's correct. Any benefits withheld due to the earnings test aren't permanently lost. When you reach FRA, the SSA recalculates your benefit amount to give credit for those months when benefits were withheld. This results in a higher monthly benefit going forward. It's essentially a deferral, as you said, not a permanent reduction like claiming early is.
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Dylan Mitchell
When I was trying to get information about my ex-spouse benefits last year, I spent THREE DAYS trying to get through to Social Security. The phone system kept disconnecting me after 30+ minute waits. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an agent in about 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU I was skeptical at first but it worked perfectly. The agent was able to run calculations for both my own record and my ex's, so I could make an informed decision. Given your complicated situation with both early filing and ex-spouse benefits, speaking directly with an SSA representative is really the only way to get accurate numbers.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•Thank you for this suggestion! I've been dreading making that call precisely because of the wait times. I'll check out that service - anything to avoid spending an entire day on hold only to get disconnected!
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Giovanni Mancini
•omg i wish i knew about this before!!! spent literally ALL DAY trying to talk to someone. bookmarking this for next time!!
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Sofia Morales
My sister just went through this. You really need to find out the numbers before making any decisions. The reduction for claiming at 65 instead of 66y10m is about 11% permanent reduction I think. BUT if your ex made a lot more than you, even the reduced spousal might be better than waiting. TOTALLY depends on your specific situation.
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Dmitry Popov
THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO CONFUSE US AND MAKE US TAKE LESS THAN WE DESERVE!!! WHY cant they just tell us what we'd get on an ex spouse record without jumping through hoops??!! And those phone wait times are RIDICULOUS. My cousin died while waiting for them to pick up!!! (not literally but you know what I mean) The government acts like they're doing us a favor by giving us OUR OWN MONEY back. Makes me so mad.
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Sofia Morales
•I get your frustration but they actually can't just tell you what you'd get from an ex-spouse without verifying your identity and relationship first. There are privacy laws involved. But I agree the wait times are completely unacceptable!
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Liam Fitzgerald
Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I'm going to try to contact SSA to get actual numbers so I can make an informed decision. Given that the "claim now, claim more later" strategy isn't an option anymore, I need to carefully weigh whether taking everything now at a reduced rate makes more sense than waiting until my FRA. It sounds like I should definitely ask about: 1. The exact amount of MY benefit if claimed now 2. The exact amount of my ex-spouse benefit if claimed now 3. What both would be if I wait until FRA 4. How survivor benefits would work if something happened to my ex I'll post an update once I get through to someone and have more information!
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NebulaNinja
•That's a great plan. One more thing to consider - if you're only planning to take benefits early because of a temporary financial setback, remember you have options. You can claim now, then if your situation improves within 12 months, you can withdraw your application (Form SSA-521), repay the benefits received, and it's like you never claimed early. This effectively resets your claiming date for the future. Just something to keep in mind depending on your specific circumstances.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
I was in a somewhat similar situation last year. I found that the local Social Security office was actually more helpful than trying to call. I made an appointment (still had to wait a few weeks) but the in-person meeting was so much more productive than trying to get answers on the phone or online. The rep pulled up both my record and my ex's and showed me exactly what I'd get under different scenarios. Just sharing in case that's an option for you. The online appointment system was relatively painless compared to the phone nightmare.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•That's a great suggestion, thank you! I hadn't considered the in-person option. I'll look into making an appointment at my local office. Even if there's a wait for the appointment, at least I won't be sitting on hold for hours!
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