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Should I take SS benefits at 65 with family history of early death, or wait until FRA?

I'm turning 65 next month and really struggling with the Social Security decision. My situation is a bit unusual - I've built enough rental income and investments that I don't *need* the money right now. The logical move would be waiting until my Full Retirement Age (67) for the higher benefit amount. But here's my concern: almost everyone in my family has died before 75. Both parents, all uncles, even my older brother last year at 72. With this family history, I'm seriously wondering if I should just take the reduced benefits now at 65. I've calculated that waiting until 67 would mean about $420 more per month ($2,540 vs $2,120), but I'd need to live until almost 80 to make up the difference from the 2 years of missed payments. Has anyone else made this decision with similar family health concerns? Would claiming now and investing those payments myself make sense as a way to ensure my kids get something if I follow the family pattern? Any insights appreciated!

update us on what you decide! im curious what youll choose

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I'm leaning toward taking it at 65 based on all this feedback. Will probably file next month and start setting aside a portion for my wife's future needs. Thanks everyone for the insights!

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I appreciate you sharing such a personal and complex decision with the community. Your situation really highlights how Social Security planning isn't just about the math - it's about your unique circumstances, family history, and goals. Based on everything you've shared, it sounds like taking benefits at 65 makes sense for your situation. You've identified some key factors: your family longevity concerns, your desire to ensure something passes to your children, and your wife's need for survivor benefits. The hybrid approach Donna suggested about setting aside part of your early benefits to supplement your wife's future survivor benefits is brilliant. One additional thought: since you mentioned having rental properties, you might want to consider gradually shifting some of that active management to reduce your earned income if it's triggering the earnings test. This could help you keep more of your early SS benefits while still maintaining your passive income stream. Wishing you the best with whatever decision you make. You've clearly done your homework and are thinking through all the angles!

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Social Security disability options for terminal cancer patient before retirement age - urgent Medicaid question

My sister-in-law just got diagnosed with advanced lung cancer and it's progressing fast. She's still working but doctors say not for much longer. She'll be turning 65 in March 2025, but needs help NOW. Her medical bills are already piling up and she has zero savings to fall back on. Can she qualify for early Social Security benefits because of her diagnosis? And how does she get Medicaid coverage before Medicare kicks in? I've heard about SSDI but don't know if that's faster in terminal cases or if there's a special process. Any advice would be so appreciated - we're all scared and confused about how to help her.

Just wanted to update everyone who's been so helpful. I talked to my SIL yesterday about all this. We're going to help her apply for both SSDI through the Compassionate Allowance program AND Medicaid through her state's emergency provision. She's also going to talk to HR about using sick leave/FMLA to stay technically employed while reducing her hours below the SGA limit. The oncology social worker at her hospital has been AMAZING - connected us with a patient advocate who's helping navigate everything. They also told us about special cancer assistance programs that might help with costs while we're waiting for government benefits to kick in. I'm still terrified about the timing of everything, but at least now we have a plan. Thank you all so much for sharing your experiences and knowledge. It's made such a difference knowing what to ask for and where to start.

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So glad to hear you're getting help from the oncology social worker! They really are amazing resources. If you run into any walls with SSA communication during this process, remember the service I mentioned. When dealing with something this time-sensitive, being able to actually speak with someone at Social Security can make a huge difference in how quickly things move forward. Wishing your SIL all the best during this difficult time.

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so glad u have a plan now!! the waiting is still gonna be hard but at least ur moving forward. sending prayers for ur SIL ๐Ÿ™

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I'm a case worker who has helped many families navigate this exact situation. A few additional tips that might help: 1. When applying for SSDI, make sure to check the "Terminal Illness" box if available on the application - this helps flag it for Compassionate Allowance processing immediately. 2. For Medicaid, ask specifically about "Presumptive Eligibility" - many states can provide temporary coverage while your full application is being processed. This can bridge the gap until regular Medicaid kicks in. 3. Contact your state's SHIP (State Health Insurance Assistance Program) counselor - they're free and can help navigate both Medicare and Medicaid options. Every state has them. 4. If your SIL has any 401k or retirement savings, she may want to consult with a benefits attorney about asset protection strategies before applying for means-tested programs. The fact that you're helping her navigate this system makes such a difference. Many people in her situation try to handle it alone and get overwhelmed. Keep advocating for her - the squeaky wheel really does get the grease with government agencies.

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Social Security online account login issues for hearing-impaired sister - alternative to phone verification?

I've been trying to help my sister access her Social Security account online, but we're hitting a major roadblock. She went through the ID.me verification process about 3 months ago but got stuck at the mail verification code step - the code they said would arrive never showed up. When I tried helping her (we live in different states), the system just gave me a frustrating "We cannot verify the information you provided" message, even though all the info was 100% correct. The bigger issue is that calling the SSA isn't really an option for her. She has significant hearing impairment and struggles with phone conversations. I actually had my own difficulties understanding a representative when I was resetting my account, so I know she would get too frustrated and just give up. Does anyone know if there's an alternative verification method? Maybe an email option instead of mail? Or some way to request a new verification code? Any suggestions would be really appreciated!

Update: We tried using Firefox instead of Chrome and going through the password reset process rather than trying to create a new login, but we're still getting stuck. I think we're going to have to try scheduling an in-person appointment. Does anyone know if I would be able to go with her to help explain things to the SSA representative? She can communicate fine in person when she can see someone's face, but sometimes misses details.

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Yes, you can absolutely attend the appointment with her as a helper. Just make sure she tells the representative that she wants you there to assist with communication. They're generally very accommodating in these situations. If possible, have her bring a letter stating that she authorizes you to help her communicate during the appointment (doesn't need to be formal, just something signed by her).

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I work with accessibility services and wanted to mention a few additional options that might help your sister. The SSA has a specific accommodation request process - she can call 1-800-772-1213 and ask to speak with someone about ADA accommodations for her hearing impairment. They can sometimes waive certain verification steps or provide alternative methods. Also, some local libraries have assistive technology centers that include TTY equipment or video relay services that might help with phone calls if needed. The reference librarians are usually great at helping people navigate government websites too. One more thing - if the in-person visit doesn't work out, you might also try contacting your congressional representative's office. They often have staff who specialize in helping constituents with federal agency issues like this.

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Social Security WEP reduction - based on age 62 or actual filing age? Will amount change?

I'm trying to figure out how much the Windfall Elimination Provision will reduce my Social Security benefits. I worked 19 years in covered employment but will also receive a pension from my non-covered government job. I'm turning 62 next March but planning to wait until 67 to start collecting SS. My question is: does the WEP calculation use the year I turn 62 (2026) or the year I actually file for benefits (2031)? And once they apply the WEP reduction, does that amount stay the same forever or can it change over time? The SSA website is so confusing about this!

My friend said u can also reduce ur WEP if u keep working after u start getting SS??? Is that true? I'm so confused with all these rules!

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Yes, that's correct. If you continue working in covered employment after you start receiving benefits, you can increase your years of substantial earnings. The SSA is supposed to automatically recompute your benefits each year if you have new earnings, potentially reducing your WEP penalty as you reach additional years of substantial earnings.

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Here's a helpful resource for finding the substantial earnings amounts by year - you can check the SSA's official publication "Social Security & Medicare Tax Rates" or search for "substantial earnings WEP" on ssa.gov. They have a table showing the amounts going back decades. For example, 1985 was $5,850, 1995 was $11,325, 2005 was $16,725, etc. It's definitely worth checking all your years because even part-time work might have qualified! Also, don't forget that if you're still working in covered employment, every dollar you earn now in 2025 that gets you over $31,275 will count as another year of substantial earnings and potentially reduce your WEP penalty by 5%.

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Confused about WEP-adjusted Social Security benefits with delayed filing - DRCs calculated differently?

I just found out my husband might be affected by the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and we're trying to understand how it impacts our retirement strategy. We've been planning for him to delay filing until age 70 to maximize his benefits (he's currently 67). He worked for a state government job with pension for 18 years, then in the private sector for 22 years. From what I'm reading, it seems like the WEP reduction happens BEFORE delayed retirement credits are calculated? So if his PIA would normally be $2,400 but gets reduced to $1,800 due to WEP, then the 24% increase for delaying to 70 would be calculated on the $1,800 and not the original $2,400? And this also affects MY spousal benefits too? So instead of getting 50% of $2,400, I'd get 50% of the reduced $1,800? Plus we need to factor in COLAs from the past few years? My head is spinning trying to figure out our actual monthly payment. Has anyone gone through this calculation process with WEP?

Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I'm going to try using the WEP calculator on the SSA website, but I think we'll also need to talk directly with an agent to get our specific situation figured out. It's frustrating that something as important as retirement planning has to be this complicated. I'll update once we get our actual calculation from SSA.

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When you do reach out to SSA, make sure to specifically ask for a WEP-adjusted benefit computation with delayed retirement credits. Many agents will give you standard benefit estimates unless you specifically request the detailed calculation that accounts for both WEP and DRCs.

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As someone who recently navigated this exact situation, I can confirm your understanding is correct but there are a few additional nuances to consider. My husband was also affected by WEP with a similar work history (20 years government, 25 years private sector). One thing that caught us off guard was that the WEP reduction can actually change over time based on your pension amount. If your husband's pension increases due to COLAs on the pension side, it could affect the WEP calculation since the reduction is capped at 50% of the pension amount. Also, make sure you understand how this impacts your survivor benefits planning. If something happens to your husband, your survivor benefit would be based on what he was actually receiving (the WEP-reduced amount), not what his benefit would have been without WEP. I'd strongly recommend getting a formal benefit estimate from SSA before making any final decisions about timing. The difference between filing at 67 vs 70 might not be as significant as you originally calculated once WEP is factored in.

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