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One last strategy to consider: If you're still working part-time and don't urgently need the money, you might file a restricted application for just spousal benefits (if eligible) while letting your own retirement benefit grow until 70. This option is only available to people born before Jan 2, 1954, but it's worth checking if you qualify. Also, remember that delaying benefits acts as a form of longevity insurance. The biggest financial risk for many retirees isn't running out of money in their 70s - it's running out in their 90s when healthcare costs typically increase dramatically.

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I appreciate the advice, but I'm not eligible for spousal benefits as I've never been married. Your point about longevity insurance is compelling though. That's what keeps me leaning toward waiting - the protection against outliving my savings in very old age.

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I'm 72 and claimed at my FRA (66 at the time). Looking back, I think it was the right middle-ground decision for me. I got 4 years of benefits before the "break-even" point, but didn't sacrifice as much monthly income as those who filed at 62. What really helped me decide was thinking about it in terms of guaranteed income vs. investment risk. Social Security is one of the few truly guaranteed income sources we have in retirement - it's backed by the government, gets COLA adjustments, and lasts for life. When I framed it that way, waiting a bit longer for a substantially higher guaranteed monthly payment made sense. That said, your health history and family longevity are huge factors. With parents who lived to their late 80s and your own good health, you're likely looking at 20+ years of benefits. In that scenario, the higher monthly amount from waiting could really add up. But if you're itching to retire fully and enjoy life now, there's real value in that too - you can't put a price on peace of mind and freedom.

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This is such a thoughtful way to frame it - thinking of Social Security as guaranteed income versus investment risk. That perspective really resonates with me. I've been so focused on the break-even calculations that I hadn't fully considered the value of that guaranteed stream, especially with all the market volatility we've seen lately. Your point about 20+ years of benefits based on my family history is making me lean more toward waiting, even though the "enjoy it now" voices are pretty compelling too. Thanks for sharing your experience with the FRA timing - that middle ground approach seems reasonable.

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Based on all the information shared, here's what you should do: 1. Contact SSA to get exact benefit estimates for both scenarios (your own reduced benefit at 62 vs. divorced spouse benefit) 2. Consider how long you plan to keep working and how that affects the earnings test 3. Think about your longevity - waiting increases your lifetime benefits if you live longer 4. Factor in your current financial needs - sometimes taking reduced benefits early is necessary If the numbers are close, and you can afford to wait, delaying benefits to avoid permanent reductions is often financially advantageous in the long run if you live into your 80s or beyond.

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Thank you all for the helpful information! I'm going to try to contact SSA to get exact numbers before making any decisions. This has been eye-opening - I clearly had some misconceptions about how the system works.

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One more thing to consider - since your ex-husband is on SSDI, his benefit amount is essentially fixed and won't grow with delayed retirement credits like regular retirement benefits do. This means that 50% of his SSDI benefit will remain the same whether you claim it now or later. However, YOUR own retirement benefit will continue to grow by about 8% per year if you delay past your Full Retirement Age until age 70. So if your own benefit has the potential to be higher than the divorced spouse benefit, waiting could significantly increase your lifetime income. You might want to ask SSA for projections showing what your own benefit would be at different claiming ages (62, Full Retirement Age, and 70) to compare against the divorced spouse option.

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Thank you all for the incredibly helpful responses! I've decided to apply for both early retirement and SSDI. I've gathered all my medical records going back to 2019, created a list of all treatments I've tried, and my doctor has provided a detailed statement about my limitations. I've also started tracking my daily pain levels and how they affect my work capacity. I'm still nervous about the SSDI process, but the potential difference in benefits makes it worth trying. I'll update this thread once I hear something from SSA. Thanks again for all the guidance!

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That's an excellent approach! One more recommendation: when describing your limitations to SSA, focus on your worst days, not your average days. Many applicants make the mistake of reporting what they can do on good days, which can hurt their case. Also, be very specific about workplace limitations (how long you can sit/stand, need for unscheduled breaks, days missed due to symptoms, etc.).

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Good luck Sofia! You're taking exactly the right approach by applying for both. Make sure to keep copies of everything you submit and don't get discouraged if the SSDI gets denied initially - that's unfortunately normal. The appeals process exists for a reason and many people win on appeal even after initial denials. Wishing you the best outcome!

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As someone who went through a similar situation at 61, I want to emphasize how important it is to be completely honest about your functional limitations in the SSDI application. Don't downplay your symptoms or try to be "tough" - SSA needs to understand the reality of your daily limitations. A few practical tips that helped me: - Keep a detailed log of activities you can no longer do (lifting, prolonged sitting, walking distances, etc.) - Document any accommodations your employer has made for your condition - Note how often pain interferes with concentration/focus during work - Track any sick days or early departures due to your back issues Also, consider getting a functional capacity evaluation (FCE) from a physical therapist if your doctor thinks it would help. This provides objective data about your physical limitations that can strengthen your case. The wait can be frustrating, but having both applications in the system gives you the best chance at maximizing your benefits. You're making a smart decision by pursuing both options!

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So glad you got it resolved! I recommend checking your payment every single month for the next few months. Their systems sometimes revert changes, especially when they're related to age milestones. And make sure to save a copy of your benefit verification letter with the corrected amount in case you need to reference it later.

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That's great advice - thank you! I'll definitely keep an eye on it for the next few months and download a copy of my benefit verification letter. I appreciate everyone's help with this!

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Wow, what a frustrating experience but I'm so glad you got it sorted out! This is actually really helpful information for the rest of us. I had no idea that turning 70 could trigger automatic changes to withholding settings. It seems like SSA's computer systems have these age-based triggers that can cause unexpected adjustments. Thanks for sharing the resolution - I'll definitely keep this in mind when I turn 70 in a couple years. Those 3-hour wait times are absolutely ridiculous though. There's got to be a better way for them to handle customer service!

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You're absolutely right about the wait times being ridiculous! As someone new to dealing with Social Security, this whole thread has been really eye-opening. I had no idea there were so many potential issues that could pop up, especially around milestone birthdays. The fact that their systems can automatically change withholding percentages without proper notification is pretty concerning. I'm definitely going to bookmark this discussion for future reference. It's reassuring to see how helpful this community is - between everyone's suggestions and experiences, it really helped guide the troubleshooting process. Hopefully SSA will eventually modernize their phone system, but until then at least we have places like this to share knowledge!

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Thank you all for this helpful information! I just talked to my friend and let him know about applying for survivor benefits for his son. He had no idea this was available and was really grateful. He's going to call SSA tomorrow morning. I also mentioned the Claimyr service since several of you warned about the phone difficulties. I'll update once they've been through the process in case it helps someone else in this terrible situation.

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So glad you were able to help! When my mom died nobody told us about any of this stuff and we struggled so much. Your friend is lucky to have someone looking out for them during such a hard time.

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You're such a good friend for looking out for them during this devastating time. I lost my spouse two years ago and the paperwork and phone calls feel overwhelming when you're grieving. One thing that really helped me was having a trusted friend like you handle some of the research and initial calls. If your friend is comfortable with it, you might offer to sit with him during the SSA call or help organize all those documents everyone mentioned. Sometimes just having moral support makes those difficult conversations easier. Also, make sure he asks SSA about any other benefits the family might qualify for - sometimes there are state or local programs that can help too. Sending prayers for healing during this incredibly difficult time.

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This is such thoughtful advice. You're absolutely right about how overwhelming all the paperwork feels when you're grieving - I hadn't thought about offering to help with the actual calls, but that's a great idea. He's been so focused on funeral arrangements and taking care of his son that I think having someone help organize all those documents would be really helpful. I'll definitely ask him if he'd like me to sit with him when he calls tomorrow. Thank you for the suggestion about checking for other state and local programs too - I wouldn't have known to ask about those.

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