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Update: I submitted the form with my brother listed and his current jail address, with a note that he's being transferred soon. The SSA rep I finally spoke with (thanks for the Claimyr suggestion!) said that was exactly the right approach. She also said I should contact them once he's transferred to update his address in their system. Thanks everyone for your help!

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Glad to hear it worked out! Keep all documentation of your representative payee application and approval. You'll need to submit the annual accounting form (SSA-623) every year, so start keeping good records of how you manage your mother's benefits. This will make the annual reporting much easier.

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Great to see this worked out for you! Just wanted to add for anyone else in a similar situation - when dealing with incarcerated family members on SSA forms, it's also helpful to keep a record of the facility's booking number or inmate ID if you have it. This can make it easier for SSA to verify the information if they need to. Also, most correctional facilities have specific procedures for official mail, so when you do need to update SSA with the new prison address later, make sure you get the complete mailing format from the facility (they often require specific formatting with inmate numbers, housing units, etc.).

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make sure u bring ALL ur paperwork to that appointment!!! birth certificates, marriage certificate, death certificate, workers comp award letter, tax returns, EVERYTHING. my aunt forgot one document and had to reschedule the whole thing and wait another month!!

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Thanks for the reminder! I'll definitely make a checklist of all documents to bring. I already have copies of everything ready in a folder, but I'll double-check that I'm not missing anything important.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Noah. Losing a spouse so young is devastating, and navigating all these benefit questions while grieving is incredibly difficult. I wanted to add something that might be helpful - when you have your SSA appointment, consider asking them to run a "what-if" scenario analysis. They can show you the exact dollar amounts for different claiming strategies (survivor benefits now vs. waiting, switching timelines, etc.) based on your specific work history and your husband's earnings record. Also, since you're dealing with both workers comp death benefits AND Social Security, you might want to contact your state's workers compensation board to ask specifically about any coordination of benefits rules. Some states have provisions that could affect how these benefits interact, and it's better to know upfront rather than discover issues later. One last thought - if you do decide to retire in June as planned, make sure to notify SSA immediately when your earnings stop. They can adjust your benefits effective that month rather than waiting until the end of the year, which could mean receiving benefits sooner than you think. Wishing you the best as you navigate this complex situation. You're asking all the right questions!

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you Oliver! The "what-if" scenario analysis sounds extremely helpful - I didn't know SSA could do that kind of detailed comparison. I'll definitely ask for that at my appointment. And you're absolutely right about checking with the state workers comp board too. I've been so focused on the federal Social Security rules that I hadn't thought about potential state-level coordination issues. Better to understand all the moving pieces now. The timing tip about notifying SSA immediately when earnings stop is gold - I was thinking I'd have to wait until year-end to see any benefit changes. If I can start receiving benefits in June when I actually retire rather than waiting until January, that could make a significant financial difference. Thank you for taking the time to provide such thoughtful guidance during what really is an overwhelming time.

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my mom got my dads full benefit when he died and they were married when he passed but she had to be 60 to get it i think. they told her if she remarried she'd lose it so she never did even though she had a boyfriend for 15 years lol

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Your mom's situation is slightly different since she wasn't divorced. For widows/widowers, remarriage before age 60 prevents eligibility for survivor benefits on the deceased spouse's record. If someone remarries after age 60, they can still collect survivor benefits from their deceased spouse. This is why some people in long-term relationships choose not to legally remarry - to preserve their survivor benefits.

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This is such valuable information - thank you everyone for sharing your experiences! I had no idea about any of these rules. It sounds like I should definitely keep my marriage certificate and divorce decree in an easily accessible place, and maybe write down my ex's SSN if I can find it. One follow-up question: since I'm already 64 and collecting my own reduced benefit (started at 62), would it make sense to look into applying for divorced spouse benefits now while he's alive? Or would that complicate things later when applying for survivor benefits? I don't want to mess anything up by applying for the wrong thing at the wrong time. Also, is there any way to find out what his current benefit amount is without contacting him directly? We really haven't spoken since the divorce and I'd prefer to keep it that way.

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Based on what you're describing (concerns about back payments and work income), it sounds like you might be dealing with a potential overpayment situation or the earnings test for early retirement benefits. These are complex areas where getting accurate, personalized advice is crucial. While you can get general information anonymously, at some point, you'll need to discuss your specific case with SSA. When you do, remember that being proactive about reporting changes or concerns almost always leads to better outcomes than waiting for SSA to discover issues later.

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You're right. I think I'll start with some anonymous general questions and then bite the bullet and talk to them directly once I understand the basics better. Thanks for the advice!

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As someone who's navigated SSA inquiries before, I'd recommend starting with the SSA's Publication 05-10003 "How Work Affects Your Benefits" - it's available online and covers most scenarios without needing to contact anyone. You can also check out the detailed FAQs on their website about the Annual Earnings Test. If you do call, another approach is to frame your questions around helping a family member or friend understand their options. Representatives are usually happy to explain how the rules work in general terms when you position it that way. Just remember that phone calls to federal agencies can be recorded, so there's always some level of tracking involved. The key is getting enough general information to make informed decisions before you need to provide your personal details for case-specific advice.

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I want to thank everyone for the incredibly helpful advice. I've gathered all our documents (birth certificates, marriage certificate, my wife's medical records) and plan to start my application online tomorrow using Chrome as suggested. I'll clearly note my wife's terminal condition in the remarks section and hope it gets flagged for the TERI program. After I get my application submitted, I'll help my wife apply for her benefits and clearly indicate she's applying for both her retirement and spousal benefits. Based on the calculations shared, she should receive around $1,350 total between the two, which will really help with our expenses. I'm also going to check out that Claimyr service since it sounds like I'll need to speak with SSA at some point about the spousal benefits. Being able to avoid long wait times would be a huge relief given my caregiving responsibilities. You've all been so supportive and informative - it's made a stressful situation much more manageable. I'll update on how things go after we submit our applications.

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Best of luck man, hope it all goes smooth for you both

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Glad we could help. The Claimyr service saved me hours of frustration during a similar time. Wishing you and your wife all the best during this difficult time.

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I'm so sorry to hear about your wife's diagnosis. As someone who works with seniors navigating Social Security, I wanted to add a few practical tips that might help: First, when you submit your online application, save a copy of everything before hitting submit. The system can be glitchy and you don't want to lose your work. Also, after submission, you'll get a receipt number - keep that handy as it helps SSA locate your case quickly. For your wife's application, consider doing it as soon as possible after yours is processed. There's no advantage to waiting, and given her condition, getting benefits started sooner rather than later is important. One thing I haven't seen mentioned - if you're caring for her full-time and she qualifies for disability benefits due to her terminal illness, that could potentially change the benefit calculation. Terminal cancer often qualifies for expedited disability processing under their Compassionate Allowances program, which could provide higher monthly payments than regular retirement benefits. You might want to ask about this when you speak with SSA. The disability route could be worth exploring alongside the retirement/spousal benefits path. Sending you both strength during this challenging time.

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