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My husband (63) and I (62) both started collecting our SS retirement benefits early last year. We understand there's an annual earnings limit (around $24,500 for 2025 I think?), but we're wondering about HOW we can earn that money. Does Social Security care if we earn it evenly throughout the year ($2,041/month) or could we work seasonal jobs that pay well for half the year and then not work at all the rest of the year? For example, could we each make $20,000 in 6 months working at our friend's beach resort during tourist season, then take the other 6 months off completely? Or would SSA penalize us for exceeding the monthly limit during those working months? We just want to maximize our work options without losing benefits!
My wife and I are both retired educators (31 and 28 years respectively) who have small Social Security benefits reduced by the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP). Currently, our tiny SS benefits don't even cover our Medicare Part B premiums, so we pay around $425 each quarterly out-of-pocket to Medicare. With all the talk about WEP reform possibly happening, we need to prepare for potentially receiving actual SS checks or backpay if the penalty gets modified or removed. Problem is, we've never received actual SS payments so we don't have direct deposit set up. The MySocialSecurity site has an option for setting this up, but it redirects us to "contact SSA" when we try to use it. My wife spent nearly 4 hours on hold yesterday trying to reach someone before giving up. What's the most efficient way to get direct deposit established with SSA when you've never received payments before? Anyone successfully navigate this particular situation? If WEP reform happens, we want to be ready for any payments without dealing with paper checks or further delays.
UPDATE: We took everyone's advice and tried multiple approaches simultaneously. We mailed in the SSA-1199 form with a voided check, AND used the Claimyr service mentioned above to get through by phone. The phone method worked fastest - got us connected to an agent in about 25 minutes, and they set up the direct deposit immediately. They confirmed it's now in the system and ready for any future payments or backpay if the WEP reform goes through. Thank you all for your help!
DID THEY TELL YOU WHEN THE WEP REFORM WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN??? Or are they just stringing us along AGAIN like they've done for 20+ YEARS???
The agent couldn't provide any specific timeline on WEP reform since it's still pending legislation. She did confirm that IF it passes and IF we're eligible for adjusted payments, they'd automatically process everything once the direct deposit was set up. At least we're prepared now regardless of what happens with the legislation.
As a fellow educator dealing with WEP, I wanted to share another option that worked for me. If you have a local SSA office that offers walk-in services (not all do anymore), you can sometimes get helped without an appointment during off-peak hours. I went to my local office at 2pm on a Tuesday and waited about 45 minutes, but the representative was able to set up my direct deposit on the spot. They also updated my address and verified all my information while I was there. It might be worth calling your local office first to confirm they still accept walk-ins for this type of service request. Having everything ready in one visit was definitely worth the wait time for me.
I'm in a complicated situation and need some guidance from those who've been here. I started receiving Social Security retirement benefits this month at age 64 after being laid off from my tech job last year. I honestly thought my career was over - I've been applying for 8+ months with zero luck in my field. Well, surprise! My former employer just called offering to bring me back at my previous salary (about $78K). This would put me WAY over the 2025 earnings limit ($24,500) by more than $50,000. Here's my dilemma: 1. I'm not even sure I want to go back there (left for reasons) 2. I need the income but worry about the SS penalties 3. Is it even worth it financially? Will I lose ALL my SS benefits? 4. If I suspend benefits now, how hard is it to restart them later? Do I just tell them no? Take the job and deal with the penalties? Or suspend my SS now before I've really started collecting? Has anyone navigated this earnings limit situation successfully? Really appreciate any advice from those who've been through similar situations.
To answer your specific question about restarting benefits - it's actually quite simple. When you're truly ready to retire, you just contact SSA (preferably 2-3 months before you want benefits to restart) and tell them you've stopped working or your earnings will be under the limit. There's a simple form to complete (SSA-795). The real financial advantage is that at your Full Retirement Age (66+10mo assuming you were born in 1959), SSA will automatically recalculate your benefit amount to give you credit for all the months benefits were withheld due to excess earnings. This effectively increases your monthly payment going forward. So yes, take the job, notify SSA immediately of your expected 2025 earnings, understand your benefits will be withheld, but know you'll get credit for those months later.
Congratulations on the job offer! As someone who went through a similar situation, I'd definitely recommend taking the job. The math works out in your favor even with the earnings test penalties. At $78K income vs whatever your SS benefit amount is annually, you'll still come out way ahead financially. One thing I wish I'd known earlier - when you do reach Full Retirement Age, SSA will increase your monthly benefit amount to account for all those months when benefits were withheld due to excess earnings. So you're not really "losing" that money permanently, just deferring it for a higher payout later. The key is to contact SSA IMMEDIATELY (before your first paycheck if possible) to report your expected annual earnings. This prevents overpayments that you'd have to pay back later - that's a real headache to deal with. Good luck with whatever you decide!
I need some advice about coordination between spousal benefits and the WEP legislation. I took early retirement in 2022 after 27 years teaching in a state that doesn't participate in Social Security, so my SS benefits from previous jobs got hit with the Windfall Elimination Provision. I'm currently getting about $675/month from Social Security. My wife retired in 2019 and receives $2,300/month in SS benefits based on her 40-year career. I've got an appointment with SSA next month to apply for spousal benefits since I should qualify for more that way. But now I'm confused about this HR 82 legislation that might reduce or eliminate the WEP penalty. If I switch to spousal benefits now, would I still be eligible for any retroactive payments if HR 82 passes? Or should I delay applying for spousal benefits until we know what's happening with WEP reform? Any insights would be so appreciated!
Update for everyone: I appreciate all the advice! I've decided to keep my appointment next month to apply for spousal benefits. Even though the increase might be small, it's still extra money. And if HR 82 or similar legislation passes in the future, I'll still be eligible for any retroactive payments for the period I was collecting my own benefit. Thanks for helping me understand this complicated situation!
Great decision, Daniel! One more thing to consider - when you meet with the SSA representative next month, ask them to pull up your earnings record and verify exactly how many years of "substantial earnings" you have under Social Security. As Matthew and Aurora mentioned, if you're close to 21+ years of substantial earnings, you might qualify for a reduced WEP penalty or even full exemption at 30+ years. This could potentially increase your own benefit significantly, which would also affect your spousal benefit calculation. It's worth double-checking since the substantial earnings threshold changes each year and you might have more qualifying years than you realize from your pre-teaching career.
I reached my full retirement age (67) last month and now I'm wrestling with when to actually start my Social Security benefits. My original plan was to wait until 70 to maximize my monthly amount (I know it increases by 8% per year after FRA). But lately I've been wondering if this makes sense in my situation. I'm still employed full-time making about $85,000 annually, and honestly enjoy my job enough that I might keep working until 72 or 73. I know that after FRA there's no earnings test penalty, but I'm confused about the tax implications. If I start benefits now while still working, will a big chunk get eaten up in taxes? Or does that happen regardless of when I start? Also, I've been trying to calculate my break-even point - how long I'd need to live after 70 to make delaying worthwhile compared to taking it now. The SSA calculator shows I'd get about $2,950/month if I start now versus around $3,670/month if I wait until 70. Can someone help me figure out if I should just take it now or stick with my plan to wait? And please explain how the taxes work either way!
SSA system is completely broken anyway. Friend of mine tried to do what ur talking about, waited till 70, then the govt changed how they calculate COLA and he barely got more than if hed taken it at normal time. Just take the money now!!!!
Thank you all for the thoughtful responses! After considering everything, I think I'm going to wait until 70 to start my benefits since I'm still earning good income and don't need the SS money right now. The guaranteed 8% annual increase is appealing, and given my family history, I'm likely to live past the break-even point. I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and knowledge!
Sounds like a well-thought-out decision! Just make sure to reassess if your circumstances change. And remember to create your my Social Security account online if you haven't already - it's helpful to periodically check your earnings record for accuracy while you're still working.
Great decision, Natalie! One additional tip: since you're planning to work until 72-73, make sure to keep track of your highest 35 years of earnings. If your current $85K salary represents some of your highest earning years, continuing to work could actually increase your benefit calculation even further by replacing lower-earning years in your benefit formula. The SSA recalculates benefits annually if you have higher earnings, so you might get an even better monthly amount than the $3,670 estimate when you do start at 70!
Carter Holmes
A final important tip: keep very good records of your earnings throughout the year. I recommend creating a simple spreadsheet to track monthly income, and regularly check it against the annual limit. This makes it much easier when you need to communicate with SSA about your earnings and helps avoid surprises at tax time.
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Mia Alvarez
AuthorThat's excellent advice. I'll set up a tracking spreadsheet this weekend so we can monitor our progress toward the limit. Better to stay organized from the start!
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Dominic Green
This is such valuable information! As someone who's been considering early retirement with my spouse, this thread has answered so many questions I didn't even know I had. The seasonal work approach sounds perfect for our situation too - we've been looking at summer work opportunities at national parks. It's reassuring to know that Social Security focuses on the annual total rather than monthly distribution. I'll definitely be bookmarking this discussion and setting up that tracking spreadsheet that Carter mentioned. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and knowledge!
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