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Emma Swift

Can I collect spousal benefits at 64 while self-employed before taking my own Social Security?

I've been self-employed for over 20 years and am trying to figure out if I can get any Social Security income before I fully retire. I just turned 64 last month, and my husband started collecting his retirement benefits when he reached his Full Retirement Age earlier this year. I'm planning to wait until my own FRA (66 and 6 months) or possibly even 70 to maximize my own benefits since I'm still working and contributing to Social Security. But money's getting tight with inflation these days. Is there any way I can collect some portion of my husband's benefits now while still waiting to claim my own later? I've heard conflicting things about spousal benefits and I'm completely confused about whether the rules changed recently. Does anyone know if this is possible or am I just dreaming? Would really appreciate some clear answers!

Unfortunately, due to changes made by the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015, what you're hoping to do (collect spousal benefits while letting your own grow) is no longer possible for people born after January 1, 1954. When you file now, you're deemed to be filing for ALL benefits you're eligible for - both your own retirement and any spousal benefits. At your age (64), you could claim now, but you'd get the higher of either your own reduced retirement benefit or your reduced spousal benefit (which would be about 41.7% of your husband's PIA instead of the full 50% at your FRA). And once you claim, you cannot later switch to let your own benefits grow to maximum.

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Emma Swift

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Oh no, that's disappointing! So the rules really did change. Does this mean I just have to decide whether to take everything early at a reduction or wait until my FRA or 70? Are there ANY exceptions to this deemed filing rule that might help in my situation?

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Jayden Hill

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my wife did this exact thing ur asking bout last yr. she got like $800 from my benfit and then when she turned 70 she switched to her own which was more then what she was getting from mine. its totally possible!!!

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This strategy (file for spousal only, then switch to your own later) was eliminated by the 2015 law changes for anyone born after January 1, 1954. Your wife was likely born before that date, which is why she was able to do this. For anyone born after that cutoff date (like the original poster who's 64 now), the deemed filing rule applies.

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LordCommander

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I was in exactly the same boat as you! The Social Security system is MADDENING with all these arbitrary rule changes. Why should people born a few years apart have completely different options???? I tried for MONTHS to find a loophole because my husband is also at FRA and collecting while I was still working. Spent hours on the phone with SSA agents who gave contradictory information. Some said I could do what you're suggesting, others said absolutely not. Finally got a knowledgeable agent who confirmed that if you were born after 1/1/1954, you CANNOT collect spousal benefits only. It's all or nothing - you file for everything you're eligible for at once. The ONLY exception is if you're caring for a child under 16 or disabled who also receives benefits on your spouse's record. Unless that applies to you, you're out of luck!

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Emma Swift

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Thank you for sharing your experience! No, I don't have any dependents under 16, so that exception doesn't apply to me. It's so frustrating that the rules changed. I guess I need to decide whether it's better financially to just wait until my FRA or 70.

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Lucy Lam

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U should call social security directly. don't rely on forums for this important stuff! my neighbor thought she couldnt get anything from her ex husband but turned out she was eligible for divorced spouse benefits all along and lost out on thousands. Always call SSA to be sure.

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Zoe Wang

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Here's the exact technical explanation: Under current rules, if you were born after January 1, 1954, when you file for any Social Security retirement benefit, you're subject to "deemed filing" rules. This means you're deemed to be filing for both your own retirement benefits and any auxiliary benefits (like spousal) you might qualify for. The result is that you'll receive whichever benefit amount is higher, but not both, and you cannot switch strategies later. If you file at 64, you'd receive either: 1. Your own retirement benefit reduced by about 15% for early filing, OR 2. 41.7% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (instead of the full 50% at your FRA) Whichever is higher is what you'd get permanently (plus COLAs). If your own benefit at 70 would be higher than what you'd get now, waiting is usually the mathematically better option - especially if you're still working and possibly increasing your own benefit amount.

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Emma Swift

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Thank you for this detailed explanation! This makes it much clearer. Since I've had pretty good earnings over my career, I suspect my own benefit at 70 would be significantly higher than any reduced amount I could get now. I think I'll wait, even though it's tough to leave money on the table in the short term.

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I was in a similar situation but turning 66 next month. My husband is 68 and started his SS at his FRA. I kept working part-time but wanted some extra income. When I went to my local SS office to ask about getting just spousal benefits, the worker there told me I was born too late for that strategy!! I was so annoyed because my sister who's 3 years older did exactly this and it worked perfectly for her. My financial advisor said now the only real choice is to either: 1) Take everything early (reduced) 2) Wait until FRA for full benefits 3) Wait until 70 for maximum Calculating which is best depends on your health, family longevity, and how much you need the money now vs. later.

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LordCommander

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It's SO unfair, isn't it? My sister also got to do the restricted application but I missed the cutoff by just 8 months! That's thousands of dollars I'll never see because of an arbitrary date. The whole system feels designed to confuse and frustrate us.

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One other consideration: since you mentioned you're still self-employed, be aware that if you claim any Social Security benefits before your Full Retirement Age, you'll be subject to the earnings test. For 2025, if you earn more than $22,320, your benefits will be reduced by $1 for every $2 you earn above that limit. At your FRA, this earnings test goes away completely and you can earn any amount without reduction. This is another reason many self-employed individuals choose to wait until at least their FRA to claim benefits.

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Emma Swift

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That's a really important point I hadn't considered! My self-employment income definitely exceeds that limit, so I'd lose a significant portion of any benefits I'd claim now anyway. This makes the decision to wait even clearer. Thank you!

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Lucy Lam

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have u checked if ur eligible for divorced spouse benefits from any ex husbands? if u were married 10+ yrs and didn't remarry before 60 u might be able to claim on their record instead. just another option to look into!

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Emma Swift

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No prior marriages for me, but that's a good tip for others reading this thread. My current husband is my first and only marriage.

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Diego Flores

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I'm a financial planner who specializes in Social Security optimization, and I want to emphasize what others have correctly stated: the restricted application strategy (claiming spousal benefits only while delaying your own) was indeed eliminated for anyone born after January 1, 1954. However, given your situation as a self-employed individual still earning income, here's what I'd recommend considering: 1. **Run the numbers on your projected benefit at 70 vs. what you'd get now** - Self-employed folks often have variable income histories, so your benefit calculation might be more complex than typical W-2 employees. 2. **Factor in the earnings test** - As mentioned, your self-employment income would likely reduce any early benefits significantly. 3. **Consider your health and family longevity** - If you're in good health with family members who lived into their 80s+, waiting until 70 often provides the best lifetime value. 4. **Look into estimated Social Security statements** - You can create an account at ssa.gov to see your projected benefits at different claiming ages. The 2015 law changes were frustrating for many, but in your case with continued earnings, waiting might actually be the optimal strategy anyway. The key is doing the math based on your specific situation rather than general rules of thumb.

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GalacticGuru

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This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! I really appreciate having a professional perspective. You're absolutely right that I need to run the actual numbers rather than just going on general advice. I do have a ssa.gov account but haven't looked at it in a while - I'll log in this week to see my updated projections. My family does tend to live well into their 80s and 90s, so the longevity factor definitely supports waiting. It sounds like between the earnings test reducing any current benefits and my continued contributions potentially increasing my final benefit amount, waiting until 70 is probably my best bet financially, even though it's hard to be patient when money is tight now.

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