Can my husband receive spousal benefits from my Social Security if I'm not drawing yet? He's 78 and I'm 57
I'm trying to figure out what's best for us as a couple with our Social Security situation. My husband is 78 and started taking his SS at age 62. He only gets about $625 per month because he was self-employed for many years and didn't pay in much. He has a small pension that covers our basic expenses, but it won't transfer to me when he passes. I'm 57 and still working full-time. Based on my earnings record, I should get around $2,700 at age 62 (or more if I wait longer). What I'm trying to figure out is whether my husband can receive spousal benefits from MY record before I start collecting. I've heard conflicting things about this. Would I have to file for my own benefits at 62 for him to get the spousal supplement? And if so, would it make financial sense for us as a couple for me to claim early at 62 so he can get that extra amount? Or should I wait until my FRA or even 70? I know there's a reduction for claiming early, but I'm more concerned about maximizing what we receive as a couple while he's still with me. Any advice from those who've dealt with this would be so helpful!
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Emma Thompson
Your husband can only receive spousal benefits after you start collecting your own Social Security. If your benefit at 62 would be $2,700, then his spousal benefit would potentially be up to 50% of your full retirement age benefit (not your reduced age 62 benefit). However, there's an important calculation to understand. When someone applies for spousal benefits, they don't just get half of the other spouse's amount. Instead, they get the difference between their own benefit and approximately half of their spouse's full retirement age benefit (if that amount is higher). Since your husband is already receiving his own retirement benefit, he would only get the difference between his current benefit and half of your FRA amount. You'd need to know what your benefit would be at your full retirement age to make this calculation. As for whether you should file at 62 - that depends on many factors including your health, family longevity, other income sources, and how much the additional spousal amount would help now versus the higher amount you'd get by waiting.
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Javier Mendoza
•Thank you for explaining this! So if I understand correctly, my husband can't get anything extra until I file, and even then it would only be the difference between his current $625 and half of what my FRA benefit would be? I still need to confirm what my FRA benefit would be exactly, but I think it's around $3,400. So half of that would be $1,700, meaning he might get an additional $1,075 monthly ($1,700 - $625). Does that sound right? That's a significant amount that could really help us now, but I'm worried about reducing my own benefit by filing at 62. It's such a difficult calculation to make.
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Malik Davis
I went through a similar situation with my wife. Practical advice: call SSA directly to get exact numbers before making any decisions. The calculation for spousal benefits can be surprisingly complex. One thing to consider - if your husband is 78 and you're 57, there's a 21-year age gap. You need to think about survivor benefits too. When he passes away, you would be eligible for survivor benefits, which could be equal to what he was receiving (including any spousal benefits). But you can't claim those until you're at least 60. Regarding whether you should file at 62 so he can get spousal benefits: It's a tradeoff. Filing early permanently reduces your own benefit by about 30% from your full retirement age amount. You need to calculate whether the extra spousal amount he'd get for however many years multiplied by the years he might receive it exceeds the reduction in your own benefit multiplied by your expected lifetime.
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Isabella Santos
•not to be morbid but at his age maybe take what u can get now? my dad was all set to max his ss then got sick and didnt make it past 68. all that waiting for nothing
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StarStrider
OK so someone needs to say that the ages in ur post don't match ur title? You say husband is 78 but title says 76 and you say ur 57 but title says 55? Maybe typo but that would change when you can file. Also you said $2700 at 62 which seems REALLY high for reduced benefits unless you were a high earner. Are you sure that's right? My wife was making nearly 6 figures and her benefit at 62 was no where near that. But to answer your main ? - husband CANNOT get spousal benefits until you file. Period. And remember that you filing early means permanently reduced benefits for life for YOU.
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Javier Mendoza
•You're right about the age typo - he's 78 and I'm 57. Sorry about that! Regarding my benefit amount, I've been in senior management for 25+ years with a salary in the low six figures for most of that time. The $2,700 is based on my last statement from SSA, but maybe I'm misremembering and that's my FRA amount not my age 62 amount? I'll double-check.
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Ravi Gupta
I tried calling Social Security for WEEKS to get exact numbers on my husband's spousal benefits and kept getting busy signals or disconnected. Super frustrating! Then I found a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to a real person at SSA in under 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The SSA rep I spoke with was able to run calculations showing exactly how much my husband would get at different filing ages for me. Made our decision so much easier with actual numbers instead of guesses. Worth checking out if you're having trouble getting through on the phone.
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Javier Mendoza
•Thanks for the tip! I've been dreading calling SSA because I've heard how difficult it is to get through. I'll definitely check out that service - having exact numbers would make this decision so much easier.
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Freya Pedersen
•does this actually work? i spend HOURS last month trying to get through and ended up having to go to the office in person and wait 3+ hours
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Omar Hassan
Quick question about this situation - wouldn't it make more sense to focus on maximizing YOUR benefit since you're so much younger than your husband? I mean, I know everyone's situation is different but with a 21-year age gap, YOU will likely be collecting benefits much longer than he will receive spousal benefits. Also, when your husband passes away, you'd be eligible for survivor benefits. If you've waited to claim your own benefits and they're higher than his (including any spousal addition), you'd just take your own higher amount anyway. Just thinking practical dollars and cents here... if you file at 62 to help him now, you could be leaving a lot of money on the table over your lifetime. Just my two cents! 😊
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Javier Mendoza
•That's definitely the other side of the equation I'm considering. If I wait until 70 to file, my monthly benefit would be much higher - potentially over $3,800 based on my earnings. That's a huge difference compared to filing at 62. I guess I'm struggling with the balance between helping our household income now versus maximizing what I'll receive later. His health isn't great, and I worry about our finances if his medical expenses increase. It's such a difficult calculation to make.
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Freya Pedersen
my mom filed at 62 so my dad could get spousal benefits and she TOTALLY regrets it now!!! hes been gone 4 years and shes stuck with that tiny check for the rest of her life. she says if she could do it over shed have waited til at least her FRA. just saying.
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Emma Thompson
•This is a really important real-world perspective. The decision to file early doesn't just affect benefits during the next few years - it affects the payment amount for potentially decades. One approach might be to calculate the breakeven point. If filing early provides an extra $1,000/month in spousal benefits but reduces the surviving spouse's eventual benefit by $500/month, then the breakeven would be around 24 months after the first spouse passes away. After that point, the decision to file early results in a net loss. This is why individual circumstances matter so much - family health history, current financial needs, and other income sources all play important roles in this decision.
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Isabella Santos
what about looking at what your survivor benefits would be? when my wife passed I got her full benefit as survivor benefit since it was more than mine. With ur husband being older shouldn't u be focusing on that instead of spousal?
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Malik Davis
•This is a good point about survivor benefits, but there's a misunderstanding here that needs clarification. In this situation, when the husband passes away, the wife would potentially receive survivor benefits based on HIS record (potentially including any spousal addition he received). But given that her own benefit will be significantly higher than his ($2,700+ vs $625), she would likely just continue receiving her own retirement benefit rather than taking a survivor benefit. The real question is whether it makes financial sense to start her benefits early (reducing her lifetime amount) to increase his benefit temporarily through the spousal addition. This requires calculating: 1. How much extra he'd receive as a spousal benefit 2. How many years he might receive it 3. How much her own benefit would be permanently reduced 4. Her life expectancy
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Ravi Gupta
OK honest question - has anyone actually sucessfully gotten half of their spouses benefits while the spouse is still working?? my sister tried this and SSA told her she had it all wrong. She couldn't get it til her husband FILED not just became eligible. so confusing!!
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StarStrider
•Your sister was told correctly. NO ONE can get spousal benefits until the main worker ACTUALLY FILES for their own benefits. Being "eligible" means nothing - you have to actually apply and start receiving benefits before your spouse can get anything based on your record. This is why the original question is asking if she should file at 62 - because her husband can't get anything extra until she does file. It's not about when she's eligible, it's about when she actually starts taking her own benefits.
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Emma Thompson
After reading through this thread, I want to offer some additional information that might help with your decision: 1. You can request a detailed benefit calculation from SSA that will show exactly what your benefit would be at 62, FRA, and 70, as well as what your husband's spousal benefit would be once you file. 2. Remember that if you file at 62, your benefit will be reduced by approximately 30% from your FRA amount for life. 3. If your husband is receiving $625/month now, and your FRA benefit would be around $3,400, then his spousal benefit would potentially increase his total to around $1,700 (half your FRA amount). 4. This means filing at 62 could give him an additional $1,075/month, but would permanently reduce your own benefit by about $1,000/month compared to what you'd get at FRA. 5. The breakeven calculation should consider both your life expectancies and immediate financial needs. Have you considered whether you might work part-time between 62-67? If you claim benefits early but continue working, you'd be subject to the earnings test, which could temporarily reduce or eliminate your benefits until you reach FRA.
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Javier Mendoza
•Thank you so much for this detailed information! I hadn't even considered the earnings test. I definitely plan to keep working until at least 65, possibly longer. So if I understand correctly, if I filed at 62 but kept working at my current salary, I might not even receive benefits until FRA anyway because of the earnings limit? I think I really need to get those exact calculations from SSA. Based on everything everyone has shared, I'm leaning toward waiting at least until my FRA to file, maybe even 70 depending on our financial situation and my husband's health in the coming years. It sounds like filing at 62 would only make sense if: 1. My husband lives for several more years to collect the increased spousal amount 2. I wasn't planning to work past 62 (which I am) 3. I had reason to believe my own life expectancy was shorter than average None of those really apply to us, so waiting is probably the smarter move financially.
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