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Will claiming Social Security at 62 reduce my future spousal benefit when husband files at FRA?

I'm trying to figure out how spousal benefits work with different filing ages. I turn 62 in about 9 months and my husband is 10 months younger than me. I've calculated that filing for my own SS benefits at 62 makes financial sense for me based on the break-even math. At 62, I'll receive roughly $1,325 monthly At my FRA (67), I'd get around $1,875 monthly By filing early, I'd collect approximately $79,500 before reaching FRA. The difference between early filing and FRA amounts ($550/month) means it would take nearly 12 years to break even if I waited. Here's my actual question: If I file for MY benefits at 62, will this reduce what I can get later as a SPOUSAL benefit when my husband files at his FRA? My husband plans to work until his full retirement age (67) because: 1. He needs to reach that age for his full pension from his government job 2. He's earning well above the earnings limit 3. We have excellent health insurance through his employer I understand there's some kind of WEP situation with government pensions and Social Security, but that whole thing confuses me. I'm mostly worried that filing early for my own benefit will permanently reduce what I could get as a spouse later. I'm assuming I can only get the spousal bump to 50% of his benefit after he files at FRA? My calculation only makes sense if I can still get the full spousal amount when he files, even if I've already filed early for my own benefits. The lady at the SS office just kept reading from some script and couldn't give me a clear answer about this specific situation. Any help would be appreciated!

Saleem Vaziri

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Yes, filing early for your own benefits WILL permanently reduce any spousal benefits you might be eligible for later. When you take SS at 62, you're locking in a reduction not just for your own benefit but also for any spousal benefit. When your husband files at his FRA, you would be eligible for a spousal benefit that would be the difference between your reduced benefit and up to 50% of his PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). But here's the key: because you filed early, that 50% maximum gets reduced based on YOUR filing age. So instead of getting the full 50% of his benefit, you'd get a permanently reduced percentage. I faced this exact situation last year. After struggling to get straight answers from SSA on the phone (constantly disconnected after 2+ hour waits), I discovered a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an actual SSA representative in under 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The SSA rep confirmed that my early filing at 62 permanently reduced both my own benefit AND my potential spousal benefit years later. This definitely impacts your break-even calculation.

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Lindsey Fry

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That's exactly what I was afraid of! This completely changes my calculations. So if I understand correctly, filing at 62 means I'll never get the full 50% of his PIA as a spousal benefit? I'll check out that Claimyr service - I really need to talk to someone who can explain my specific situation instead of getting generic answers. Thank you for sharing your experience.

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Kayla Morgan

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I need to correct some misinformation here. Filing early for your own benefits does NOT reduce your potential spousal benefits dollar-for-dollar. What happens is more complicated: When your husband files at his FRA, SSA will calculate your spousal benefit as up to 50% of his PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). Then they'll compare that amount to your own benefit. You'll receive your own benefit plus any EXCESS of the spousal benefit over your own benefit. The reduction comes into play because you filed early for your own benefits, making your own benefit lower than it could have been. This means the gap between your benefit and 50% of his benefit might be larger, potentially giving you a bigger spousal add-on. For example: - Your reduced benefit at 62: $1,325 - 50% of husband's PIA: $1,800 - Excess spousal benefit: $475 - Total you'd receive: $1,800 If you had waited until your FRA to file: - Your full benefit at FRA: $1,875 - 50% of husband's PIA: $1,800 - Excess spousal benefit: $0 (since your benefit exceeds 50% of his) - Total you'd receive: $1,875 So in some cases, filing early might not hurt you regarding total benefits once spousal benefits kick in. It depends on the specific benefit amounts.

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Lindsey Fry

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Wow, this is getting confusing! So in your example, if my own benefit at FRA would be higher than 50% of his PIA, then filing early might actually work out better in the long run? I think I really need to speak with someone at SSA who can run the actual numbers for our specific situation before making this decision.

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James Maki

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Just wanted to chime in that the WEP you mentioned (Windfall Elimination Provision) only affects the person who earned both a SS-covered benefit AND a non-SS-covered pension. So that would affect your husband's SS benefit, not yours or your spousal benefit. But there's also the GPO (Government Pension Offset) that could reduce spousal benefits if YOU have a non-covered pension. Do either of you have non-SS-covered government jobs??

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Lindsey Fry

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Thank you for bringing that up! My husband is the one with the government job and pension. I've worked in the private sector my whole career. So from what you're saying, the WEP might reduce HIS Social Security benefit, but shouldn't directly affect my spousal benefit (other than reducing the base amount my spousal benefit would be calculated from)? This is so complicated!

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Jasmine Hancock

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The MATH YOURE DOING is all wrong!!!!! You cant just add up checks and call it a day. You have to consider INFLATION and INVESTMENT RETURNS!!! Those early filing checks could be invested and grow over 5 years. And what about COLA increases?? Those early checks will get 5 years of COLAs your FRA checks NEVER GET. The SSA doesnt tell you this stuff because they WANT YOU TO WAIT so they dont have to pay out as much money early on!!!!!

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Cole Roush

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exactly! plus what if you die before FRA? then all that money is just gone forever that you could have had. nobody knows when their time is up. bird in hand is worth 2 in bush imo

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You're asking the right questions about how your early filing affects future spousal benefits. Here's what happens: 1. When you file at 62, your own benefit is reduced by approximately 30% from your PIA (what you'd get at FRA). 2. When your husband files at his FRA, you become eligible for spousal benefits. 3. Your total benefit will be the HIGHER of: - Your own reduced benefit from filing early - Up to 50% of your husband's PIA, reduced because you filed early The reduction to the spousal benefit is based on the number of months before YOUR FRA that YOU filed. At 62, your spousal benefit would be reduced to about 32.5% of his PIA instead of 50%. HOWEVER, the actual calculation is: - You get your own reduced benefit - PLUS any amount by which the reduced spousal benefit exceeds your own benefit This is why it's so important to get your specific numbers calculated. If your husband's benefit will be significantly higher than yours, filing early might still make mathematical sense despite the reduction.

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Lindsey Fry

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This helps tremendously! So I'd get about 32.5% of his PIA instead of 50% if I file at 62. But I'd still get my own benefit first, and then any excess between that and the reduced spousal amount. I think I need to recalculate with these more accurate numbers. Thank you for explaining this clearly!

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Arnav Bengali

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my sister went through this exact thing last year. she filed at 62 and her husband waited til 67. when he filed she got an extra $380 on top of her ss check. they told her that was the difference between her reduced benefit and her reduced spousal benefit. hope that helps. everyone's situation is different tho so your numbers wont be the same as hers.

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Lindsey Fry

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That's helpful to hear a real example. $380 extra would definitely be significant in my case. Did your sister feel like filing early was the right choice in the end? I'm also wondering if she had any trouble when her husband filed - did SSA automatically calculate the spousal addition or did she have to apply for it?

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Arnav Bengali

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she says filing early was still worth it for her but your benefits might be different. and yes ssa did it automatically when her husband filed, the extra just showed up in her account the next month. she didnt have to do anything

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Kayla Morgan

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I recommend two things for your situation: 1. Create a my Social Security account at ssa.gov if you haven't already. You can see your exact estimated benefit amounts at different ages. 2. Ask your husband to do the same so you can see his PIA (the amount he'd get at FRA). With these two numbers, you can make better calculations: - Your reduced benefit at 62 (your statement will show this) - 50% of your husband's PIA - The reduction to that 50% based on your early filing age If 50% of his PIA (after reduction) is still higher than your own reduced benefit, then you'd get a nice bump when he files. If your own benefit is higher, then the spousal benefit doesn't help you. Additionally, don't forget to consider: - Survivor benefits (completely different from spousal - as a widow you'd get 100% of his benefit) - Health issues that might affect longevity - Other income sources during the gap years - Your tax situation at different benefit levels

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Lindsey Fry

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I do have a my Social Security account, and that's where I got my benefit estimates. I'll ask my husband to check his so we can get a clearer picture. You make a good point about survivor benefits - I hadn't even thought about how this decision might affect those. There are so many moving parts to this decision!

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James Maki

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I filed at 62 last year and was in a similar situation with my husband. After several calls to SSA where I either couldn't get through or got conflicting information, I finally just went to my local office in person. Took almost 3 hours of waiting but I got clear answers about my specific situation. If you can't get through on the phone, try going in person with all your documents and questions written down. They can run your actual numbers there.

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Saleem Vaziri

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Going in person is good advice, but many SSA offices are still requiring appointments which can take weeks to get. When I needed help quickly and couldn't wait, I used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through on the phone in about 15 minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours. Their video demo shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - Saved me a trip to the office and I got all my questions answered by phone.

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One important correction to my earlier comment: The reduction for taking spousal benefits early is actually calculated differently than for your own retirement benefits. At age 62, the spousal benefit reduction is actually MORE than the reduction for your own benefit. For retirement benefits, filing at 62 results in approximately a 30% reduction. For spousal benefits, filing at 62 results in approximately a 35% reduction. So if your full spousal benefit would be 50% of your husband's PIA, at age 62 you'd get closer to 32.5% of his PIA. This is why getting precise calculations for your specific situation is so important. The difference could significantly impact your long-term planning.

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Lindsey Fry

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Thank you for this important clarification! This makes the calculation even more complex, but having accurate information is essential. I'm definitely going to need to speak with SSA directly about my specific case before making any decisions.

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