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Can I switch SS survivor benefits between deceased spouses at FRA? Multiple spouse question

I'm really confused about switching survivor benefits between two deceased spouses. I'm 63 and have been collecting reduced survivor benefits from my first husband since I was 60. He passed away in 2019. My second husband (we divorced in 2015 after 12 years) just passed away last month, and his benefit would be higher at 100% than what I'm currently getting. My friend told me I can switch to my second husband's survivor benefit when I reach my FRA (which is 67), but when I called SSA the rep seemed uncertain and said something about not being able to switch because both were deceased when I started collecting. Is this correct? Does it matter that my second husband was still alive when I started collecting on my first husband? Also, I'm wondering about a completely different scenario for my sister. She's turning 62 next year and has two ex-husbands (both still living, both marriages lasted over 10 years). If she takes spousal benefits from ex #1 at 62, can she later switch to ex #2's benefit at her FRA if that would be higher? Or does she need to wait until FRA to make any claim to maximize her options? I've spent hours on the SSA website and I'm more confused now than when I started. These survivor/spousal rules between multiple spouses are so complicated!

Val Rossi

Yes, you CAN switch between survivor benefits from different deceased spouses, regardless of whether both were deceased when you started collecting. The key factor is that you're already on reduced survivor benefits from one spouse, and you want to switch to unreduced (100%) survivor benefits from another spouse at your FRA. The rule is: if you take REDUCED survivor benefits early (before FRA), you can still switch to FULL survivor benefits from another spouse when you reach FRA. The fact that both spouses were already deceased doesn't matter - what matters is the benefit type and your age. For your sister's situation with spousal benefits (not survivor), it's different. If she takes reduced spousal benefits from ex #1 at 62, she's generally stuck with that reduction factor even if she tries to switch to ex #2 later. She should compare both potential spousal benefits before filing and choose the higher one.

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Romeo Quest

Thank you so much for clearing this up! It makes much more sense now. I'll definitely be planning to switch to my second husband's survivor benefit when I reach FRA. I suspected the SSA rep might have been confused, but it's such a specific situation I wasn't sure. I'll pass along the info about spousal benefits to my sister too. She probably needs to carefully compare both ex-husbands' earnings records before making any decisions. Do you know if she can get those benefit estimates from SSA without actually applying?

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Eve Freeman

i went thru somthing similar w/ 2 deceased husbands....the ssa people gave me wrong info THREE TIMES about switching!! said i couldnt do it then i finaly got someone who knew the rules. your friend is right and that ssa person was WRONG. doesnt matter if both were dead when u started. u can start on 1 at 60 (reduced) and switch to other one at FRA (full). i did it last yr!!!!

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Romeo Quest

That's so frustrating but also reassuring to hear you went through the same thing! Did you have any documentation or specific rules you could point to when talking to SSA? I'm worried about getting the wrong information again when I actually try to make the switch in a few years.

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Eve Freeman

no i just kept calling til i got someone who knew what they were talking about! took 4 calls! just keep trying different days u get different people. some know the rules some dont

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Clarissa Flair

Let me clarify these scenarios with precise Social Security rules: 1. Survivor Benefits Switching: Yes, you can absolutely switch from reduced survivor benefits on one spouse to full survivor benefits on another spouse when you reach FRA. This is permitted under what's sometimes called the "survivor benefit maximization strategy." The status of either spouse (alive or deceased) when you first claimed is irrelevant to your ability to switch. 2. Spousal Benefits Switching: For your sister's case, the deemed filing rules that took effect in 2016 complicate things. If she takes reduced spousal benefits from one ex-spouse at 62, she generally cannot switch to higher benefits from another ex-spouse later without the reduction following her. There's a specific exception only if the second ex-spouse wasn't yet eligible for benefits when she filed (meaning he wasn't 62 yet). Both these situations are addressed in POMS GN 00204.030 for those who want to reference the specific policy operations manual.

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Caden Turner

Do you know if there's a specific form to fill out for switching between survivors benefits? Is it just a regular application or something specific for switching? I'm in a similar situation as OP and want to make sure I do it right when the time comes.

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Clarissa Flair

There's no special form specifically for "switching" survivor benefits. You would file an application for survivor benefits on the second spouse's record (Form SSA-10), and in the remarks section, note that you're already receiving survivor benefits on another spouse's record and wish to switch. Make sure to specify you want the new claim to begin at your FRA to receive the unreduced amount. I'd recommend scheduling an appointment rather than just submitting online, as this is a specialized situation that benefit specialists are more equipped to handle properly.

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McKenzie Shade

My mom tried to call ssa about a similar situation and couldn't get through for WEEKS!!! It's ridiculous how hard it is to get someone on the phone who knows what they're talking about!

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Harmony Love

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Rudy Cenizo

wait im confused... what about if you were getting YOUR OWN retirement benefit? can you still switch to a dead spouse's survivor benefit later? asking for myself because i took mine at 62 and my husband died last year

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Clarissa Flair

Yes, that's actually a different scenario that would work in your favor. If you're receiving your own retirement benefit and your spouse passes away, you can apply for survivor benefits at any point afterward. If you're already at or past your FRA when applying for survivor benefits, you can get 100% of what your deceased spouse was receiving (or was eligible to receive). If you're between 60 and FRA, you'd get a reduced percentage. Many people don't realize that you can receive retirement and survivor benefits sequentially - take the lower benefit first, then switch to the higher benefit later. This is one of the few remaining claiming strategies not eliminated by recent rule changes.

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Caden Turner

These survivor benefit rules are SO CONFUSING!!! 😫 I've called SSA like 5 times and gotten different answers each time about switching between deceased spouses. One person told me I could only get benefits from my most recent spouse (WRONG), another said I couldn't switch at all once I started taking benefits (ALSO WRONG). The whole system is a mess. I wish they would train their employees better or at least have a clear explanation on their website. Why is it so hard to get consistent information??!! Sorry for the rant, just been dealing with this for 7 months and I'm at my wit's end.

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Val Rossi

I feel your frustration. SSA's complexity means even their own employees sometimes misunderstand the rules around multiple spouses and benefit switching. For what it's worth, the definitive rule is in their Program Operations Manual System (POMS) section GN 00204.030. You can actually reference this specific policy number when speaking with representatives. Sometimes having that exact reference helps get you to a supervisor or technical expert who knows these special situations better. It's still frustrating, but having specific policy numbers has helped me navigate their bureaucracy more successfully.

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Romeo Quest

I just wanted to thank everyone for all the helpful information! I feel so much better knowing I CAN switch to my second husband's survivor benefit when I reach FRA, regardless of when each spouse passed away. I've been stressing about this for weeks! I'll pass the information along to my sister about her spousal benefit situation too. It sounds like she should probably wait until her FRA if she wants to maximize her options, or at least carefully compare both ex-spouses' benefit amounts before making any decisions. I'm still nervous about dealing with SSA when the time comes to make the switch, but at least now I know what to expect and that I'm entitled to make this change. I really appreciate all your experiences and expertise!

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Clarissa Flair

You're very welcome! One more tip: when you're ready to make the switch at your FRA, call and schedule an appointment specifically with a "Technical Expert" or "Claims Specialist" rather than just any Claims Representative. These are the higher-level staff who handle complex situations like yours. Ask for this specifically when you call, and you'll have a much better experience.

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