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I'm so sorry for your loss, Grace. Losing a parent is heartbreaking, and having to navigate Social Security bureaucracy during your grief makes everything so much harder. Your mom is absolutely entitled to switch to your dad's full $2,750 survivor benefit! At 84, she's well past full retirement age and qualifies for 100% of his benefit since it's higher than her current $1,250. The early filing at 62 on her own record won't affect her survivor benefits at all - they're calculated completely separately. I just went through this process with my own mother-in-law last year. Here's what I learned: - Call SSA at exactly 8:00 AM when they open (seriously, have the number dialed and ready) - Try Tuesday through Thursday - avoid Mondays and Fridays if possible - Have all documents ready: death certificate, marriage certificate, both SSNs, and her banking info - Don't forget to ask about the $255 lump sum death benefit - If the first agent seems unsure about survivor benefits, politely ask to speak with someone who specializes in them The phone system is frustrating, but don't give up. That $1,500 monthly difference will be life-changing for your mom, especially at 84 when every dollar matters for her security and comfort. She worked hard her whole life and deserves this benefit. If phone calls become impossible, consider visiting your local SSA office in person. Sometimes face-to-face gets results when phone calls don't. Thinking of you both during this difficult time. You're being such a good advocate for her.

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience with your mother-in-law, Harper. It's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who just went through this process recently. I really appreciate the specific timing advice about Tuesday-Thursday calls and having everything dialed and ready right at 8:00 AM. The tip about asking to speak with someone who specializes in survivor benefits if the first agent seems unsure is really smart - I hadn't thought about that but it makes perfect sense. You're absolutely right that the $1,500 monthly difference will be life-changing for Mom, especially at her age. I'm feeling much more prepared now with all the advice from everyone here. The local SSA office visit is definitely going to be my backup plan if the phone system proves impossible. Thank you for the kind words about being a good advocate - she's been such a wonderful mom and deserves to get every benefit she's entitled to. I'll update everyone once we get through this process!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Grace. Losing a parent is incredibly difficult, and having to deal with bureaucracy during such a hard time makes it even more overwhelming. Your mom is absolutely entitled to your dad's full $2,750 survivor benefit since it's higher than her current $1,250! At 84, she's well past full retirement age and qualifies for 100% of his benefit amount. The fact that she filed her own benefits early at 62 won't reduce her survivor benefits at all - they're calculated completely separately. I went through this exact situation with my father-in-law last year. Here's what worked for us: - Call SSA at exactly 8:00 AM when they open - have the number ready to dial right at 8:00 - Try mid-week (Tuesday-Thursday) as Mondays and Fridays tend to be busier - If you get through to someone who seems unfamiliar with survivor benefits, politely ask to be transferred to a specialist - Consider using the callback option if available rather than staying on hold Make sure to have ready: death certificate, marriage certificate, both Social Security numbers, and her banking information. Also ask about the $255 lump sum death benefit. The $1,500 monthly increase will make such a huge difference in her quality of life. She's earned this benefit and absolutely deserves it. Don't give up if the first few attempts don't work - persistence pays off with SSA. If phone calls become impossible, visiting your local SSA office in person can sometimes get results when calls don't. Wishing you both the best getting this resolved quickly!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience with your father-in-law, Sophie! It's really comforting to hear from so many people who have successfully navigated this exact situation. The consistency in everyone's advice about calling right at 8:00 AM and trying mid-week gives me a lot of confidence in that strategy. I really appreciate the tip about asking to be transferred to a specialist if the first person seems unfamiliar - that could save a lot of time and confusion. Having the callback option instead of staying on hold sounds like a much better approach too. I've got all the documents gathered now and I'm planning to try first thing tomorrow morning (assuming it's a Tuesday-Thursday). The reassurance that Mom is definitely entitled to the full $2,750 means everything right now. You're absolutely right that she's earned this benefit after paying into the system her whole working life. Thank you for the encouragement not to give up - I'm determined to get this sorted out for her!

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As someone brand new to this community and just beginning to understand Social Security planning, this entire discussion has been incredibly enlightening! I'm still about 15 years away from 62, but I wanted to jump in because I had the exact same misconception that many others have shared - I thought there would be some kind of automatic notification or enrollment process when you become eligible. Learning that you maintain complete control and nothing happens until you actively decide to apply is such crucial information to know this far in advance. The breakdown of benefit percentages at different claiming ages that everyone has shared is really eye-opening - seeing that the timing decision could impact lifetime benefits by tens of thousands of dollars makes me realize I should start educating myself now rather than waiting until I'm closer to eligibility. I'm definitely going to create my Social Security account this week to start tracking my earnings history and getting familiar with the system. What strikes me most is how personalized this decision really is based on health, work plans, spousal situation, and so many other factors. It's clear that while I can start learning the basics now, the real strategic planning will need to happen much closer to decision time when I have a clearer picture of my circumstances. Thank you to everyone for sharing such practical, real-world experiences - this community provides exactly the kind of insights you can't get from government websites alone!

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Welcome to the community! As someone who's also completely new here and just starting to learn about Social Security, I really appreciate you sharing your perspective from 15 years out. It's so smart that you're thinking about this early - I wish I had started researching sooner! Like you and so many others in this thread, I had no idea that nothing happens automatically when you turn 62. I think there's something really empowering about knowing we have complete control over the timing rather than having to deal with some bureaucratic process we can't influence. The financial impact of the timing decision that everyone has outlined is honestly shocking - I never realized that waiting could mean such a huge difference in lifetime benefits. I'm also planning to set up my Social Security account this week after reading all these recommendations. What's been most valuable to me is seeing how this community shares real experiences and practical advice that you just can't find in official government resources. It makes such a complex topic feel much more approachable when you can learn from people who have actually navigated these decisions!

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As someone brand new to this community, I'm finding this discussion incredibly helpful! I'm about 8 years away from 62 but had the same concern about potential notification requirements when becoming eligible. It's so reassuring to learn that absolutely nothing happens automatically and you maintain complete control over when to apply. The breakdown everyone has shared about benefit percentages at different claiming ages is really eye-opening - I had no idea that delaying could mean such a significant difference in lifetime benefits. One thing I'm curious about as I start my planning: for those who mentioned the break-even analysis, are there any good online tools or calculators you'd recommend beyond the SSA's official calculator? I want to make sure I'm considering all the variables when I eventually need to make this decision. I'm definitely going to create my Social Security account this week to start tracking my earnings history. Thanks to everyone for sharing such practical, real-world experiences - this community is an amazing resource for understanding these complex decisions!

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One thing I don't see mentioned yet - make sure you keep checking your mail for any correspondence from SSA even after you get your first payment! Sometimes they send follow-up letters requesting additional documentation or notifying you of benefit adjustments that could affect future payments. I missed an important letter last year that was buried in my mailbox and it caused a temporary hold on my benefits. Also, once you start receiving payments, you can set up text alerts through your MySSA account to get notified when payments are deposited. Really helpful for peace of mind, especially in those first few months when you're still getting used to the new payment schedule.

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That's really good advice about watching for mail! I hadn't thought about setting up text alerts either. As someone just starting this process, it's helpful to know about all these little details that can make a difference. I'll definitely sign up for those notifications once we start getting payments. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Just wanted to add - if you're worried about the wait time, you can also check your bank account setup in MySSA to make sure your direct deposit info is correct. I had a friend who waited an extra 2 weeks because there was a typo in her routing number! Also, don't panic if your first payment amount looks different than what you expected - sometimes they do partial payments or adjustments in the first month and then it evens out. The key is just staying on top of your MySSA account and watching for any messages from them. Good luck with your retirement!

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I'm in a very similar boat - turned 62 last month and my ex won't be 62 for another 2 years! Initially I was frustrated about having to wait, but after reading through everyone's responses here, I'm starting to see this delay as a blessing in disguise. One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're still in touch with your ex (amicably), it might be worth having a conversation about his retirement plans. Not that it changes the rules, but knowing whether he's planning to file at 62 or wait longer could help inform your own strategy. My ex mentioned he's planning to work until 67, which actually doesn't matter for my ex-spouse benefit calculation, but it's good to know for planning purposes. Also, I found the SSA's online benefit calculators really helpful, but they can be confusing at first. Don't be discouraged if the numbers seem off initially - there are a lot of variables they factor in. The WEP and GPO calculators are particularly important if you have any government pension income. Sara, given that you were married 23 years, your ex likely has a substantial work history which could mean a decent ex-spouse benefit for you. Those extra 3 years of waiting might really pay off!

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Thank you for sharing your experience, StarSailor! It's so reassuring to hear from someone in almost exactly the same situation. You're right about this being a blessing in disguise - I'm starting to see it that way too after all these helpful responses. The idea about talking to my ex about his retirement plans is interesting. We're on decent terms, so I might casually bring it up. You make a good point about the 23 years of marriage likely meaning he has a substantial work history - I hadn't really thought about it that way, but you're probably right! I'm definitely going to spend some time with those SSA calculators, even if they're confusing at first. Thanks for the encouragement about those extra 3 years potentially paying off - I needed to hear that perspective!

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I'm currently dealing with a similar waiting period situation and wanted to share something that's been helpful for me. While you're waiting for your ex to turn 62, consider requesting a "Benefits Estimate" letter from SSA that shows projections for both your own retirement benefit and the potential ex-spouse benefit. This can give you a clearer picture of which option might be better when the time comes. Also, I learned that if you're currently receiving any other government benefits (like unemployment, disability, or even some state benefits), there might be coordination rules that could affect your Social Security strategy. It's worth mentioning these to SSA when you do eventually file. One last thing - keep track of any major life changes during these waiting years (health issues, significant income changes, remarriage considerations) as they could all impact your optimal filing strategy. The silver lining is that Social Security rules and benefit amounts can change, and sometimes waiting works out better than we initially expect!

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One additional consideration: If your own benefit at Full Retirement Age would be more than 50% of your ex-spouse's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), you might want to run the numbers on a different strategy. It might be worth delaying your own retirement claim and taking reduced ex-spouse benefits now (if you're eligible). The math gets complicated, but a good SSA agent can help you compare scenarios. Also, when calculating potential survivor benefits, remember that your ex receiving $4,900/month means he delayed until 70, receiving 132% of his PIA. Survivor benefits are based on that higher amount (including the delayed retirement credits), not his original PIA.

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As someone who recently went through a similar situation with my ex-husband's benefits, I wanted to share what I learned that might help clarify things. The key point that really helped me understand this was that survivor benefits and your own retirement benefits are completely separate calculations - taking one early doesn't affect your eligibility for the full amount of the other. Here's what worked for me: I took my own reduced retirement at 62 because I needed the income after losing my job. When my ex passed away two years later, I was able to switch to his survivor benefits, but I waited until my survivor FRA (which is different from regular retirement FRA - it was 66 for me) to get his full amount. The mistake I almost made was switching to survivor benefits immediately when he died because I thought "more money now is better." But waiting those extra months to reach survivor FRA meant getting about $800 more per month for the rest of my life. That math definitely works out better in the long run! One tip: keep copies of his Social Security statements if you can get them. It helped speed up the process when I applied for survivor benefits.

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Thank you so much for sharing your real experience! This is incredibly helpful. I'm in almost the exact same situation - lost my job and need to start benefits soon. Can I ask what year you were born? I'm trying to figure out my survivor FRA since everyone seems to have slightly different ages. Also, did you have any trouble getting copies of his SS statements after he passed? I'm wondering if I should try to get that information now while he's still alive, just in case.

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