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Just wanted to add one more important point that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand the difference between "deemed filing" and survivor benefits timing. Since you're 62 now, if you were to file for any Social Security benefits before your widow's FRA, you'd be subject to deemed filing rules that could permanently reduce your benefits. Also, I'd strongly recommend getting a personalized benefit estimate from SSA that shows your projected widow's benefit amount. This will help you make the most informed decision about timing. You can request this when you call SSA or visit a local office. Given your situation (still working full-time with good income, widow's benefit higher than your own), waiting until your widow's FRA definitely seems like the right strategy. Just make sure to apply a few months before you want benefits to start to avoid any processing delays!

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Great point about deemed filing rules! I wasn't aware of that complexity. When you mention getting a personalized benefit estimate from SSA, do you know if they can show projections that include the delayed retirement credits my husband would have earned? I want to make sure I have the exact numbers before making my final decision on timing.

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I'm sorry for your loss, Aisha. I went through a similar situation a few years ago when my spouse passed away at 64. The information shared here is mostly accurate, but I wanted to add something important that my local SSA office emphasized: When you do apply for widow's benefits, make sure to bring documentation of your husband's complete earnings history if you have it (like his annual Social Security statements). This helps ensure they calculate his benefit correctly, especially for those final years when earnings might have been higher. Also, since you mentioned you're still working full-time, consider that once you do start collecting widow's benefits at your FRA, there's no longer an earnings test - you can work and earn as much as you want without it affecting your benefits. This is different from regular retirement benefits where the earnings test can apply even past FRA in some situations. One last thing - when you're ready to apply, consider visiting your local SSA office in person rather than just calling. For widow's benefits, they often need to review multiple documents, and doing it in person can prevent back-and-forth delays. The staff at my local office was incredibly helpful during a difficult time.

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm in a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly enlightening! I just hit my FRA this month and am dealing with the same spousal benefit questions. What really strikes me from reading everyone's experiences is how much you need to be proactive with SSA right now - their system seems completely overwhelmed. I'm taking notes on all the great advice here: try calling at 7 AM sharp on Wednesday or Thursday mornings when wait times are shorter, gather ALL documents beforehand (especially that certified marriage certificate from the county clerk, not just a copy), and don't wait for them to ask since applications apparently just sit there waiting for documents they never request. The success stories from people like Marcus Williams and Andre Moreau give me hope that once you get the right documentation to them, things can move relatively quickly. I'm planning to try the early morning calling strategy first, and if that doesn't work after a few attempts, I'll head to my local office with everything in hand. It's frustrating that we have to work this hard for benefits we're entitled to, but this community's real-world advice is exactly what people like us need. Thank you to everyone for sharing your experiences - it's so helpful to know others have successfully navigated this process!

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Welcome to the community, Emma! I'm also brand new here and just discovered this incredibly helpful discussion. Like you, I'm in almost the exact same situation - just reached FRA and trying to navigate the spousal benefit process with SSA's overwhelmed system. This thread has been such a goldmine of practical advice! I'm particularly impressed by how everyone emphasizes being proactive rather than waiting for SSA to reach out. The early morning calling strategy (7 AM on Wed/Thu) seems to be the most consistent recommendation, and I love how people like Malik Thompson shared specific tips about asking agents to make notes in your file. I'm also gathering all my documents now - certified marriage certificate from county clerk, both SS cards, IDs, and any correspondence. It's ridiculous that we have to work this hard just to get benefits we've earned, but reading success stories from Marcus Williams, Andre Moreau, and others gives me confidence that persistence really does pay off. Thanks for such a thoughtful summary of everyone's advice - it's reassuring to know there are others going through this exact process right now!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm in almost the exact same situation and this discussion has been incredibly helpful! I just reached my FRA last month and am waiting on my first payment while trying to figure out the spousal benefit process. Reading through everyone's experiences, it's clear that being proactive is absolutely essential with SSA's current system being so overwhelmed. The consensus advice seems spot-on: try the early morning calling strategy (7 AM on Wed/Thu) first, but don't wait too long before visiting the office with your certified marriage certificate and all supporting documents. What really stood out to me is how many people had their applications just sitting there waiting for documents SSA never actually requested - that's both frustrating and crucial to know! I'm planning to gather my certified marriage certificate from the county clerk, both our Social Security cards, photo IDs, and any correspondence from SSA, then try calling first thing tomorrow morning. If that doesn't work after a few attempts, I'll head to the office early next week. The success stories from people like Marcus Williams and Andre Moreau give me hope that once you provide the right documentation, things can move relatively quickly. Thanks to everyone for sharing such practical, real-world advice - it's exactly what newcomers like me need to navigate this process successfully!

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As someone who's also new to navigating Social Security complexities, I want to thank everyone for this incredibly informative discussion! I'm in a somewhat similar situation - 63 years old, receiving SSDI for the past two years due to chronic health issues, and also receiving reduced survivor benefits from my late spouse. Reading through all these responses has been eye-opening, especially learning about the importance of requesting a Technical Expert rather than just any representative. I had no idea that SSA won't automatically give you the highest benefit - that's crucial information! I'm particularly concerned about the work income limits after seeing the discussion about SGA. I've been doing some freelance work to supplement my benefits, and now I'm worried I might be close to that $1,550 threshold. The advice about Trial Work Period months is something I definitely need to look into. One question for the community: has anyone had success getting clear information about their TWP status during a phone call, or is this something that really requires an in-person appointment? Also, for those who've worked with Technical Experts, how far in advance do you typically need to schedule those appointments? My local office has been just as backed up as the original poster mentioned. Thanks again to everyone sharing their experiences - this community is a lifesaver for those of us trying to make sense of this complex system!

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Welcome to the community, Lucy! Your situation sounds very similar to what several of us are navigating. Regarding your TWP status question, I've found that phone representatives can usually tell you how many TWP months you've used, but getting detailed explanations about how it affects your benefits timeline is definitely better done in person with a Technical Expert. For appointment scheduling, I've had better luck calling first thing in the morning (8 AM when they open) or trying multiple offices in your region as @6d31d8f0f4bb suggested. Some offices have cancellation lists you can get on for earlier appointments. Your concern about freelance work is valid - definitely track those earnings carefully! The TWP threshold for 2025 is much lower than the SGA limit (around $1,050 vs $1,550), so you might be using TWP months even if you're under SGA. I'd recommend creating a simple monthly log of your freelance income to bring to your Technical Expert appointment. Also, since you have both SSDI and survivor benefits like the original poster, make sure to ask about the comparative analysis between your own retirement benefits at 70 versus maximizing survivor benefits. The strategies discussed here about taking the lower benefit early while letting the higher one grow could really apply to your situation too. Hang in there - we're all learning together!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm incredibly grateful for all the detailed information shared here! I'm 60 and recently started receiving SSDI after a workplace accident. While I don't have survivor benefits to consider, I'm learning so much from everyone's experiences about the importance of strategic planning with Social Security benefits. What really stands out to me is how crucial it is to specifically request a Technical Expert rather than just any representative - I had no idea there was a difference! I've been getting conflicting information from regular reps too, so this explains a lot. I'm also concerned about the work income discussion. I've been considering taking on some consulting work to help with expenses, but after reading about the SGA limits and Trial Work Period complexities, I realize I need to understand these rules much better before making any income decisions. For those who've successfully gotten appointments with Technical Experts - do they typically handle both SSDI work rules AND retirement/survivor benefit planning, or do I need separate appointments for different types of questions? Also, when you request the written summary that @6d31d8f0f4bb mentioned, do they provide that automatically or do you need to specifically ask for it during the appointment? Thank you all for creating such a supportive and informative community. Reading through everyone's experiences and advice has been incredibly helpful for understanding how to navigate this complex system!

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Your strategy sounds solid. The only thing I'd add is that talking directly with SSA probably won't give you the strategic advice you're looking for - they'll explain the rules but typically don't provide planning strategies. A financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies might be more helpful. As for verification, the SSA.gov website has good information on survivor benefits if you want to confirm. Look under "If You Are The Survivor" section.

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Good point about SSA not providing strategic advice - I hadn't thought of that. I'll look for a financial advisor who specializes in this area. And I'll check out that section on SSA.gov too. Thanks again for all the help everyone!

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you might also want to consider the "restricted application" strategy if either of you is eligible. Since you're both born before 1954, you may have some additional claiming options that younger folks don't have access to anymore. Also, just a heads up - when you do eventually need to apply for survivor benefits (hopefully many years from now), make sure you have all the necessary documents ready. You'll need things like the death certificate, marriage certificate, and both of your Social Security numbers. Having these organized ahead of time can help speed up what is already a lengthy process during a difficult time. Your overall strategy sounds very reasonable given your financial situation and the benefit amounts you described. The flexibility to switch between benefits really does make this approach work well for many couples.

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I went through something similar last year when I delayed my benefits for 8 months past FRA. The benefit verification letter only showed my base FRA amount, but when my first payment came through, it included all the delayed retirement credits correctly calculated. One thing that helped put my mind at ease was logging into my Social Security account and checking the "View Estimated Benefits" section - sometimes that shows a more accurate picture than the verification letter. Also, if you have your award letter from when you were approved in August, that should show the correct monthly amount including DRCs. The good news is that even if there is an error, Social Security is required to pay any back benefits owed once it's corrected. But based on my experience and what others have shared here, you'll likely see the right amount in October. Good luck!

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That's a great point about checking the "View Estimated Benefits" section! I didn't think to look there. I'll go check that out right now to see if it shows a different amount than the verification letter. And yes, I do have my award letter from August - I should probably dig that out and see what it says about my monthly amount. Thanks for the suggestion!

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I'm going through the exact same situation right now! I delayed my benefits for 5 months past my FRA and my benefit verification letter also only shows the base amount without the delayed retirement credits. Reading through all these responses has been really reassuring - it sounds like this is totally normal and the actual payment should include the correct amount with DRCs. I'm also scheduled to get my first payment in October, so I guess we'll both find out together! The explanation about the verification letter showing just the PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) makes a lot of sense. It's frustrating that their online system doesn't give us the full picture, but at least now I know not to panic about it. Thanks for posting this question - you probably helped a lot of people who are in the same boat!

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I'm so glad this post helped you too! It's reassuring to know we're not alone in this situation. The waiting game is definitely nerve-wracking, but after reading all the responses here, I feel much more confident that our October payments will include the delayed retirement credits correctly. It seems like the SSA's online systems just aren't great at showing the complete picture, but the actual payment processing usually works as it should. Fingers crossed for both of us that everything goes smoothly! I'll definitely try to remember to update this thread once I see my first payment amount.

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