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Can my daughter keep Social Security benefits after 18 with self-study GED prep & vocational training?

Hey everyone, I need some advice about my daughter's Social Security benefits. My son turned 17 last month and has been receiving dependent benefits since I started getting SSDI in 2016. He's had a rough few years - we had to relocate in 2020 after he experienced severe harassment at school that left him with serious anxiety issues. He needed extensive therapy for almost 3 years following the trauma. He's incredibly bright - reads at college level and is more knowledgeable about current events, philosophy, and music than most adults I know. However, the traditional school structure was really detrimental to his mental health recovery. After completing what would be considered 8th grade at an online academy, he stepped back from formal education to focus on healing. He's currently working toward his GED with plans to complete it by late 2025. He's also receiving mentorship in audio engineering which he's passionate about. The problem is he's turning 18 next month, and I'm worried about him losing his benefits. I received the SSA School Attendance Statement forms which list several qualifying education types: High School, Home School, GED prep, Technical, Vocational, and "Other." Would his current self-directed GED study combined with the vocational audio engineering training qualify to extend his benefits until 19? Or do we need to enroll him in something more formalized to maintain eligibility? I appreciate any guidance here - this income is really important for his support while he gets back on track.

My neighbor's kid got approved for benefits continuation by enrolling in a program that combined GED prep with vocational training. It was technically a "transition program" for students with special needs. Maybe look into whether your county has something similar? Sometimes they're run through the school district or county services.

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That sounds like exactly what we need! I'll research transition programs in our area - hadn't thought about approaching it from the special needs angle but that makes sense given his anxiety issues. Really appreciate the suggestion.

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Also check with your local vocational rehabilitation services - they sometimes have programs specifically designed for young adults transitioning to independence. Since your son has documented anxiety issues from the school trauma, he might qualify for additional support services that could help maintain his benefits while he pursues his audio engineering training.

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Widow's benefit calculation at FRA - based on deceased spouse's age 70 benefit or death age?

I recently lost my husband at age 66 (he never filed for Social Security) and I'm trying to plan my widow's benefits strategy. I'm 62 now and still working full-time at my office job. After researching on the SSA website, I found my widow's FRA is 66 and 8 months, when I can collect 100% of my late husband's benefit (which will definitely be higher than mine based on my earnings record). What's confusing me is exactly WHICH amount I'll receive. Is my widow's benefit based on: 1. What my husband would've received at the age he died (66)? 2. What he would've received at his FRA? 3. What he would've received had he lived to 70 (with delayed retirement credits)? If I wait until my widow's FRA to collect, my husband would've been 69 if still alive. Will I get the benefit amount he would've received with those delayed credits even though he never filed? Or does it max out at his FRA amount since he died before 70? I'm planning to wait until I hit my widow's FRA to avoid any reductions, but wondering if there's any advantage to filing earlier. My work income is about $75,000/year if that matters for any earnings test. Thank you for any guidance!

To summarize what appears to be causing confusion: 1. You WILL receive any DRCs your husband earned between his FRA and his death at 66. 2. You will NOT receive additional DRCs he might have earned had he lived longer (up to age 70). 3. Since you mentioned he died at 66, which was likely very close to his FRA, there may be very few DRCs involved (possibly just a few months' worth). 4. Given your still-working status and the fact that your own benefit at 70 would be less than the widow's benefit, waiting until your widow's FRA (66+8mo) appears to be the optimal strategy in your case. 5. Once you stop working or reach your FRA, don't forget to inquire about the possible 6 months of retroactive benefits that may be available if you file after your FRA.

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Thank you so much for this clear summary! This is exactly what I needed to know. I'll plan to wait until my widow's FRA at 66+8mo to file, and I'll definitely ask about those retroactive benefits.

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Just wanted to add one more important point that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand the difference between "deemed filing" and survivor benefits timing. Since you're 62 now, if you were to file for any Social Security benefits before your widow's FRA, you'd be subject to deemed filing rules that could permanently reduce your benefits. Also, I'd strongly recommend getting a personalized benefit estimate from SSA that shows your projected widow's benefit amount. This will help you make the most informed decision about timing. You can request this when you call SSA or visit a local office. Given your situation (still working full-time with good income, widow's benefit higher than your own), waiting until your widow's FRA definitely seems like the right strategy. Just make sure to apply a few months before you want benefits to start to avoid any processing delays!

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Can I just walk into SS office with marriage certificate for spousal benefits after reaching FRA?

Finally hit my Full Retirement Age this month (woohoo!) and should be getting my first Social Security payment in March. I submitted my application back in December. My husband is just 1 month younger than me and filed to start receiving his benefits in March (first payment coming in April). His benefit amount is more than double mine, so I definitely want to get the spousal benefit. My question is - should I just walk into my local Social Security office with our marriage certificate? SSA hasn't actually asked for it yet. Both our online applications still show we're only on Step 2 of the approval process. I've been trying to reach them by phone for days with no luck. Would showing up in person speed things up for the spousal benefit, or should I just wait for them to request documentation? Anyone had experience with this?

My advice after 30+ years dealing with SSA: always be proactive. Their systems are backlogged and understaffed. I'd recommend both calling AND visiting your local office with marriage certificate in hand. For calling, try exactly at opening time (usually 7am) on Wednesdays or Thursdays when call volumes tend to be lower based on my experience. Don't count on them figuring things out automatically.

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Thanks for the specific tip about Wednesdays and Thursdays! I'll definitely try that. And you're right, being proactive makes sense. I'm going to try calling one more time and then just go to the office next week.

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I went through this exact situation last year! My advice is to definitely bring your marriage certificate to the office, but call ahead first to see if you can schedule an appointment. Walking in without an appointment at most SSA offices means you'll be waiting 2-4 hours easily. When I finally got through by phone, they told me they had been waiting for my marriage certificate for weeks but never sent a request letter. Brought it in the next day and my spousal benefit was processed within 10 days. Also, make sure you bring a certified copy, not just a photocopy - they're particular about that. The extra $300/month I got was definitely worth the hassle!

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Social Security confusion: Disability, survivor benefits, and part-time work income - when should I switch to retirement?

I've been receiving SSDI for about 3 years (nerve damage from an accident) and I also get survivor benefits from my late husband who passed away in 2021. I'm 62 now and working part-time making around $1,600 monthly because my combined benefits just aren't cutting it with inflation these days. I'm completely confused about what to do next! Should I apply for my own retirement benefits now at 62, or wait until 67 or even 70? Can I somehow switch to a higher amount of my husband's benefits at some point? Will SSA automatically give me whatever pays the most, or do I need to specifically request changes? I've called the SSA three times and got three different answers! My local office is booked out 4 months for appointments. Any advice from folks who've navigated this mess would be SO appreciated.

While the system is certainly complex, SSA does provide decision tools and calculators on their website to help with these choices. That said, you make a valid point that many people don't receive optimal benefits because they don't understand all their options. This is why it's crucial to speak with a Technical Expert at SSA who specializes in retirement and survivors benefits, rather than relying solely on the information provided by the first representative you reach.

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I'm new to this community but facing a very similar situation, so thank you all for sharing your experiences! I'm 61 and recently started receiving SSDI after a workplace injury. My husband passed away last year, and I'm trying to understand when I should apply for survivor benefits and how that interacts with my disability benefits. Reading through this thread has been incredibly helpful - especially learning about the SGA limits and the importance of asking for a Technical Expert rather than just any representative. One question I have: if I'm already on SSDI, do I need to separately apply for survivor benefits, or will SSA automatically consider me for both? Also, has anyone here used the SSA's online calculators that were mentioned? Are they reliable for planning purposes, or should I only rely on what a Technical Expert tells me in person?

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Social Security survivor benefits question - if wife claims at 63 but I wait until FRA, what happens if I die?

I'm trying to figure out the survivor benefits situation for my wife and me as we plan for retirement next year. Here's our situation: my wife is 62 and I'm 61. My Social Security benefit will be about 50% higher than hers based on our earnings records. We're fortunate to have enough savings and investments that we don't immediately need to file for Social Security when we retire next year. I'm considering having my wife file at age 63, while I delay my filing possibly until my full retirement age (which I believe is 67). My concern is about survivor benefits if something happens to me. If my wife starts collecting at 63 (before her FRA of 67) and I pass away before I even file for benefits, would her survivor benefit be reduced permanently because she filed early? Or would she be able to get my full FRA benefit amount when she reaches her own FRA? I'm confused about whether her early filing for her own benefit would permanently affect any survivor benefits she might receive later.

Your strategy sounds solid. The only thing I'd add is that talking directly with SSA probably won't give you the strategic advice you're looking for - they'll explain the rules but typically don't provide planning strategies. A financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies might be more helpful. As for verification, the SSA.gov website has good information on survivor benefits if you want to confirm. Look under "If You Are The Survivor" section.

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Good point about SSA not providing strategic advice - I hadn't thought of that. I'll look for a financial advisor who specializes in this area. And I'll check out that section on SSA.gov too. Thanks again for all the help everyone!

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you might also want to consider the "restricted application" strategy if either of you is eligible. Since you're both born before 1954, you may have some additional claiming options that younger folks don't have access to anymore. Also, just a heads up - when you do eventually need to apply for survivor benefits (hopefully many years from now), make sure you have all the necessary documents ready. You'll need things like the death certificate, marriage certificate, and both of your Social Security numbers. Having these organized ahead of time can help speed up what is already a lengthy process during a difficult time. Your overall strategy sounds very reasonable given your financial situation and the benefit amounts you described. The flexibility to switch between benefits really does make this approach work well for many couples.

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