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I work at a local SSA field office and can confirm that backdating up to 6 months is absolutely allowed for retirement benefits - that phone rep gave you completely wrong information! This happens way too often unfortunately. When you come in, bring your marriage certificate, birth certificate, and documentation of your government pension amount. Ask specifically for a "protective filing date" of 6 months ago. Make sure they calculate BOTH your own benefit (reduced by WEP) AND spousal benefit (reduced by GPO) to see which is higher after all reductions are applied. One tip from the inside - if the first person you speak with seems unsure about WEP/GPO rules, politely ask to speak with someone who specializes in these provisions. Not all our staff gets regular training on these complex situations, but we do have specialists who handle them regularly. Good luck with your appointment! The backdated payments should help with those home repairs.
This is incredibly helpful to hear from someone who actually works at SSA! It's so frustrating that the phone reps aren't properly trained on these basic policies. I really appreciate the insider tip about asking for a specialist if the first person seems unsure about WEP/GPO - I definitely wouldn't have known to do that. It gives me much more confidence going into my appointment knowing what to ask for and what documentation to bring. Thank you!
Thank you so much for this insider perspective! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who actually works at SSA and can confirm what everyone else has been saying. I'm definitely going to ask for a WEP/GPO specialist right away - that tip alone could save me a lot of time and frustration. I've been putting this off for too long because the whole process seemed so overwhelming, but now I feel much more prepared. Really appreciate you taking the time to help!
I'm so glad you found an actual SSA employee to confirm what everyone has been saying! As someone who went through the WEP/GPO maze myself two years ago, I can't stress enough how important it is to get the right person who understands these provisions. One additional thing I learned - when they're calculating your GPO reduction, make sure they're using the correct pension amount. They need your GROSS monthly pension before any deductions for health insurance, taxes, etc. I initially gave them my net amount and it threw off their whole calculation. Also, don't be surprised if your first appointment takes longer than usual. WEP/GPO cases require more documentation review and calculations than standard retirement applications. But that backdating will definitely be worth the extra time - six months of payments is substantial money at our age!
@profile8 Yes, it's called the "Monthly Earnings Test" or sometimes the "Grace Year Rule." It only applies in the first year you receive benefits. It means that regardless of your total annual earnings, in any month you earn below the monthly limit AND don't perform substantial self-employment services, you'll receive your benefit for that month. This is particularly useful for people who have high earnings early in the year but then retire or substantially reduce their work mid-year. You can find this in the SSA's Program Operations Manual System (POMS) section RS 02501.080.
Thank you all so much for this information! This is exactly what I needed to know to plan properly. I think my approach will be to work full-time until I file, then immediately reduce to part-time to stay under the monthly limit. And I'll make sure to use that Claimyr service to connect with SSA directly to confirm all these details for my specific situation before I make any changes. You've all been incredibly helpful!
Just wanted to add one more consideration for your planning - make sure to factor in any potential cost-of-living adjustments (COLA) when calculating the earnings limits for future years. The $22,300 limit mentioned for 2025 is an estimate, and the actual amount could be slightly different when SSA announces it officially. Also, if you're planning to maximize your 401k contributions while working full-time, remember that those contributions will actually REDUCE your countable earnings for Social Security purposes since they're pre-tax deductions. This could help you stay closer to the earnings limit even while working more hours. Good luck with your planning - it sounds like you're being very thoughtful about this transition!
I want to add one more thing - if your brother is receiving Medicare due to his disability status, attending college won't affect that coverage either. Some people worry about losing health insurance, but education doesn't impact Medicare eligibility for disabled beneficiaries.
This is such a thoughtful question to ask on behalf of your brother! I'm a disability advocate and I can confirm that attending college generally does NOT jeopardize SSDI benefits. The Social Security Administration actually encourages education through several programs. One thing I'd add that others haven't mentioned - your brother might want to look into whether his college offers priority registration for students with disabilities. Many schools allow disabled students to register early, which can help him get classes that work better with his health needs and schedule. Also, if he does decide to pursue this, he should keep documentation of his educational goals and how they relate to managing his disability or potentially contributing to society in ways that work within his limitations. While it's not required, having that information can be helpful if any questions ever arise. The fact that he's considering this shows real strength and determination. Education can be incredibly therapeutic and provide that sense of purpose he's looking for, regardless of whether it ever leads to employment.
This is really encouraging to hear from a disability advocate! I love the idea about priority registration - that could make a huge difference for him since his energy levels can be unpredictable. And you're absolutely right about the therapeutic value of education. He's been feeling pretty isolated and discouraged lately, so having a goal and being around other people learning could be really good for his mental health too. Thank you for taking the time to share such detailed and thoughtful advice!
Emma, your strategy sounds very well thought out! I'm a former SSA employee and can confirm that what you're planning is absolutely correct. You can take your reduced retirement benefit at 62 and then switch to full survivor benefits at your FRA (67) if your husband passes away. A few key points to emphasize based on my experience: 1. When the time comes to switch, you'll need to specifically request survivor benefits - SSA won't automatically give you the higher amount. Make this request in writing or get written confirmation of your request. 2. The timing flexibility is one of the biggest advantages of your strategy. If your husband passes when you're 63-66, you can choose to either switch to reduced survivor benefits immediately OR continue your retirement benefit and wait until 67 for the full survivor amount. The choice depends on which amount is higher. 3. Document everything! Keep records of all conversations with SSA representatives, including names, dates, and what was discussed. This will help if there are any issues later. 4. Your break-even analysis at age 86 is smart planning. Given family health history and the 12-year age gap, taking benefits at 62 provides valuable income security during your early retirement years. The most important thing is that you understand your options and have a clear plan. It sounds like you've done your homework well!
Sophie, thank you so much for this confirmation from someone with actual SSA experience! It's incredibly reassuring to hear from a former employee that my understanding is correct. Your emphasis on getting everything in writing really drives home what others have said - I definitely don't want to end up in a situation where there's confusion about what was promised or agreed upon. The point about having flexibility on timing when choosing between reduced survivor benefits immediately versus waiting for full benefits at 67 is particularly helpful. I'll make sure to run those numbers when the time comes (hopefully many years from now) to see which option makes more sense financially. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your professional expertise here. It gives me much more confidence in moving forward with this strategy!
As someone who works in retirement planning, I want to add one more consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - the potential impact of Medicare decisions on your overall strategy. Since you're planning to take SS at 62, you'll still need to wait until 65 for Medicare eligibility. Make sure you factor in health insurance costs for those 3 years (62-65) when calculating whether taking benefits early makes financial sense. Also, once you're on Medicare, if you're receiving Social Security benefits, your Medicare Part B premiums will be automatically deducted from your monthly SS payment. This won't affect your survivor benefit calculation later, but it's good to know for budgeting purposes. Your strategy is solid, but healthcare costs during early retirement can be significant, so just make sure that's part of your overall financial picture when you file at 62.
Hunter Brighton
I'm going through something very similar! Filed my retirement application in late January for benefits starting in July 2025 (I'll be 67). No call from SSA either, and my status has been "under review" for about 5 weeks now. Like you, I kept seeing posts about people getting calls within days and started wondering if I'd done something wrong. Reading through all these responses has been so helpful - it really seems like delayed start applications are handled completely differently than immediate benefit applications. The explanation about SSA prioritizing cases by start date proximity makes total sense. Since we're both still months away from our benefit start dates, we're just not high priority right now. I'm definitely going to follow the advice about waiting until we're about 3 months out before getting concerned. It sounds like most people with straightforward cases like ours (past FRA, standard employment history) get processed without any contact needed. Thanks for asking this question - you've helped ease the anxiety for several of us in similar situations!
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Lauren Wood
•I'm so relieved to find others in the exact same situation! I filed my application about the same time as you for a September 2025 start date, and I've been having the same anxiety about not getting a call. It's really reassuring to see how many people have shared similar experiences and everything worked out fine for them. The explanation about SSA having different processing queues based on start dates makes so much sense - I had no idea that's how they prioritized applications. I was starting to think I must have made some mistake on my application, but it sounds like we're all just in the "normal waiting period" for delayed start cases. Thanks for posting this - it's amazing how much peace of mind comes from knowing you're not alone in this process!
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Leila Haddad
I'm dealing with the exact same situation! Applied online in mid-February for benefits starting in September 2025 (I'll be 66 and 4 months). Haven't heard a peep from SSA and my status has been stuck on "under review" for almost a month now. I was really starting to panic, especially after seeing so many posts about people getting calls within 48 hours of applying. But after reading through all these responses, I feel so much better! The explanation about SSA prioritizing immediate start cases first and then working backwards makes perfect sense. Since we're all still 5-6 months out from our benefit start dates, we're just not urgent cases right now. It's actually reassuring to know that no contact often means everything is proceeding normally for straightforward applications like ours. Thanks for posting this question - you've helped calm the nerves of quite a few of us who are in the same boat!
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Keisha Thompson
•I'm so glad to see I'm not alone in this! I applied around the same time as you (mid-February) for benefits starting in August 2025, and I've been having the exact same worries. It's incredible how much anxiety we put ourselves through when everything is actually proceeding normally! Reading all these responses has been like a masterclass in how SSA really operates behind the scenes. The fact that so many people have shared nearly identical experiences - no calls, "under review" status for weeks, then everything processing smoothly - really drives home that this is just how the system works for delayed start applications. I think I'm going to bookmark this thread to come back to if I start getting anxious again before my August start date. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's made such a difference in my stress level!
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