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One thing no one has mentioned: if your ONLY income is the $27,300 from SSDI, the calculation works like this: 1. Half of your SSDI ($13,650) is counted toward the threshold test 2. Since $13,650 is less than $25,000, technically NONE of your benefits would be taxable 3. However, the full calculation is more complex - your "combined income" includes half your benefits plus other income Either way, with the standard deduction, you'll likely owe nothing, but you should file to be in compliance. Use the free filing options available through IRS.gov.
Wait, this is confusing me now. So if my ONLY income is the SSDI, then half of that ($13,650) is what gets compared to the $25,000 threshold? And since that's under $25,000, none is taxable? That's different from what others said above.
Sorry for the confusion - I was mistaken in my explanation. For the threshold test, if SSDI is your only income, your "combined income" would be half your SSDI benefits. However, since your benefit is $27,300, half would be $13,650, which is below the $25,000 threshold. This means none of your benefits should be taxable. I recommend confirming this with a tax professional or using tax software to be certain.
I'm a newcomer here but wanted to chime in since I just went through this exact situation last month! I had $28,400 in SSDI last year and was terrified about taxes. Here's what I learned from my tax preparer: If SSDI is your ONLY income, your "provisional income" (which is what they use for the threshold test) is calculated as: half your SSDI + any other income + nontaxable interest. So for you, that would be $13,650 (half of $27,300) + $0 other income = $13,650 total. Since $13,650 is well below the $25,000 threshold, NONE of your SSDI should be taxable! But you should still file a return if you're required to (check the IRS filing requirements based on your age and filing status). I ended up not owing anything and actually got peace of mind from filing. The free tax software walked me right through it. Don't stress too much - you're likely in better shape than you think!
This is so helpful, thank you! As someone new to this whole tax situation with SSDI, your explanation really cleared things up. So if I understand correctly, since my only income is the $27,300 SSDI and half of that ($13,650) is below the $25,000 threshold, I shouldn't owe any taxes on it? That's such a relief! I was getting conflicting information above and was starting to panic. I'll definitely still file to be safe, but knowing I probably won't owe anything takes a huge weight off my shoulders. Thanks for sharing your recent experience - it's exactly what I needed to hear!
Congratulations on getting it resolved! It's frustrating how these seemingly small data discrepancies can completely lock you out of the system. Your experience highlights a major issue with SSA's online verification - they need exact matches across multiple databases that apparently don't always sync properly. Thanks for sharing the solution and following up with your success story. This thread will be really helpful for others dealing with similar verification problems.
This whole thread is such a perfect example of why so many people get frustrated with government services online! It's incredible that something as simple as a middle initial discrepancy can completely block access to your own benefits information. The fact that multiple databases don't talk to each other properly in 2025 is honestly embarrassing. But I'm glad there are workarounds like that Claimyr service - though it's sad that we need third-party services just to reach our own government agencies. Thanks for documenting this whole process, it'll definitely help others who run into the same wall!
This is such a comprehensive thread! As someone who works in government IT, I can tell you that these database synchronization issues are unfortunately very common across federal agencies. The SSA has multiple legacy systems that were built decades apart and don't always communicate seamlessly. What you experienced with the middle initial and address spacing discrepancies is exactly the kind of "dirty data" problem that plagues these older systems. The fact that you needed a third-party service to reach an actual person is really telling about the resource constraints at SSA. Their phone system is overwhelmed and their online verification is overly strict to prevent fraud, but it creates a horrible user experience for legitimate beneficiaries like yourself. Your documentation here will definitely help others - I'd recommend anyone facing similar issues to also screenshot their exact card information before calling, as agents often need to verify exactly what's printed versus what's in the system. Thanks for sharing the complete journey from problem to solution!
One thing nobody has mentioned: if your husband exceeds the annual earnings limit, SSA withholds benefits at the rate of $1 for every $2 earned above the limit. For 2025, the annual limit is approximately $22,320 (they adjust for inflation each year). Since he's earning $28,000 through May, that exceeds the annual limit by about $5,680, which would mean approximately $2,840 in benefits might be withheld. However, if he qualifies for the monthly earnings test in his first year of retirement, this won't apply as long as he earns under the monthly limit (about $1,860) in the months he's receiving benefits. Also worth noting: once he reaches FRA, they'll recalculate his benefits and give him credit for months they withheld benefits, potentially increasing his monthly amount going forward.
WHATEVER U DO, keep copies of EVERYTHING! my friend lost all his paperwork showing when he stopped working and SSA made him pay back like $9000!!! they claimed he was working all year when he wasnt!
The SSA is ALWAYS trying to short-change us!! My friend was told she'd get one amount then ended up with hundreds less per month. She fought it for months and finally got what she deserved. DONT give up!!
While I understand your frustration, it's important to note that in most cases, these aren't errors but rather the result of complex rules that even many SSA employees struggle to explain properly. The RIB-LIM rule is particularly complicated and often misunderstood. That said, it's always good to verify that calculations are correct by requesting detailed explanations from SSA.
I'm sorry for your loss, Gael. What you're experiencing is unfortunately common with the RIB-LIM rule that others have mentioned. I went through something similar when my mother passed - the initial estimate was much higher than what I actually received due to these complex calculations. One thing I'd recommend is requesting your husband's complete earnings record (Form SSA-7050-F4) along with that technical explanation others mentioned. This will help you verify that they're using the correct earnings history in their calculations. Sometimes there are errors in the earnings record that can affect benefit amounts. Also, if you do decide to request the detailed calculation, be prepared that it might take several weeks to receive it. The SSA doesn't generate these explanations routinely, so they have to create them specially upon request. But it's worth having for your records, especially since you're planning to switch to your own benefits at 70. The good news is that your survivor benefit strategy still makes sense - you're essentially getting paid to delay your own retirement benefits until they max out at 70, even if the survivor amount is less than you initially expected.
Thank you for the condolences and this really practical advice, Alfredo. I hadn't thought about requesting his complete earnings record - that's a great point about potential errors that could affect the calculation. I'll definitely ask for both that form and the technical explanation when I contact them. It's reassuring to hear that even with the lower survivor benefit, the overall strategy of waiting until 70 for my own benefits still makes financial sense. I appreciate you taking the time to share your experience!
Luca Esposito
Thank you all for the really helpful information. I'm going to share all these insights with my brother-in-law so he can make an informed decision. It sounds like waiting those 14 months would be ideal if he can swing it financially, but I better understand the tradeoffs now. I appreciate everyone taking the time to explain!
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Nia Thompson
•You're welcome! Just a final thought - he should definitely make an appointment with SSA directly before making his final decision. While the general rules are as we've described, his specific earnings record and situation might have nuances we can't see. And make sure he specifically asks about how his early filing would affect future spousal benefits based on his wife's record.
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Zara Rashid
I've been through a similar situation with my own family. One thing that might help is to calculate the actual dollar difference over time. If he takes $1,450/month now versus $1,750 at FRA, that's $300/month difference. But he'd also receive 14 months of payments ($20,300) that he wouldn't get if he waits. The breakeven point is usually around age 82-83. Given his wife's MS diagnosis, they might want to prioritize having more income available now for potential medical expenses and care needs. Sometimes the "optimal" financial decision on paper isn't the best decision for real-life circumstances.
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