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So after talking with SSA directly (finally got through!), I can confirm what most of you have said - there is absolutely NO earnings limit after reaching FRA. The rep told me I can earn any amount in 2025 without affecting my benefits. She said my HR department was likely confusing my situation with the rules for people who claim before their FRA. Thanks everyone for your help! Such a relief to have this sorted out before I start my benefits.

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Glad you got official confirmation! It's always good to hear directly from SSA, even though the rule is very clear on this point. Enjoy your retirement and those last few months of work without any concerns about benefit reductions.

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sooo im turning 62 next month and want to start SS while still working part time. thats different from your situation right? i think i DO have an earnings limit??

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Yes, your situation is completely different. At 62, you're filing for early benefits (before FRA), so the earnings limit absolutely applies to you. For 2025, you can only earn $22,320 without penalty if you're collecting early benefits. Anything over that amount, and SSA will withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the limit. You might want to calculate whether it makes financial sense to claim early while still working.

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@Naila Gordon is exactly right. Since you re'filing at 62 which (is before your FRA ,)you ll'definitely have the $22,320 earnings limit for 2025. Just to add - those withheld benefits aren t'lost forever though. Once you reach your FRA, SSA will recalculate your benefit amount to give you credit for the months when benefits were withheld due to excess earnings. But while you re'under FRA and working, you ll'need to stay under that limit to avoid temporary benefit reductions.

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This is such a great question and the responses here are really comprehensive! I'm in a similar situation - turning 62 next year and considering early retirement but worried about making the wrong financial decision. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is how this strategy might work differently depending on your career field. I'm in tech where salaries have grown significantly over the past decade, so even a few years of higher earnings could potentially replace some much lower-earning years from the 1980s and 1990s in my calculation. Has anyone here specifically calculated how much their PIA increased per year of higher earnings? I'm trying to figure out if the potential benefit increase would justify dealing with the earnings test complexity, especially since I'd probably want to work remotely which might limit my earning potential compared to returning to a full corporate role.

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That's a really smart way to think about it! The career field definitely matters a lot. I'm also in tech and went through a similar calculation when I was considering this path. What I found is that if your recent years are significantly higher than your early career years (which is common in tech), even just 3-4 years of good earnings can make a meaningful difference. The PIA increase depends on how much those new high years replace your lowest years in the top 35. I used the SSA's online calculator to run different scenarios - you can plug in hypothetical future earnings to see how it would affect your benefit. One thing to consider with remote work is that you might actually have more flexibility to optimize your earnings timing around the annual earnings limit, since you could potentially control project timing or consulting income more easily than with a traditional W-2 role.

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This thread has been incredibly informative! As someone who's been agonizing over this same decision, I really appreciate all the detailed explanations about the earnings test, PIA recalculations, and delayed retirement credits. One additional consideration I'd add is the psychological aspect - I've talked to several people who took early retirement and then returned to work, and many said the biggest benefit wasn't necessarily the increased Social Security payment, but rather having the security of knowing they already had that base income locked in. It gave them more flexibility to be selective about work opportunities and negotiate better terms since they weren't desperate for income. For those considering this path, you might also want to factor in the potential healthcare savings if you can get employer coverage again - that alone could be worth thousands per year even if your SS benefit increase is modest. Just make sure you understand all the rules before making any moves, and consider consulting with a financial planner who specializes in Social Security strategies to run the numbers for your specific situation.

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This is such a valuable perspective, thank you! The psychological security aspect is something I hadn't fully considered but makes total sense. Having that guaranteed baseline income would definitely change the whole dynamic of job searching and negotiating. I'm curious about the healthcare piece you mentioned - for someone who takes early retirement at 62, works for a few years with employer coverage, then retires again before 65, what happens during that gap before Medicare kicks in? Would you be back to buying individual coverage on the marketplace, or are there other options like COBRA? The healthcare costs during those transition periods could definitely impact whether this strategy makes financial sense overall.

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who works in retirement planning - this whole thread is a perfect example of why it's so important to understand all the moving pieces with Social Security! I see this confusion all the time with clients. The survivor benefits piece that everyone identified is huge - when someone loses a spouse, they can often end up with a higher total monthly income from Social Security than they had when both spouses were alive, especially if the deceased spouse had higher earnings. One thing I'd add to the great advice already given: when you're reviewing your earnings record, pay special attention to years where you might have had multiple jobs or changed employers mid-year. Those transitions sometimes create gaps in reporting. Also, if you ever worked for tips (restaurant, salon, etc.), make sure those tip amounts were properly reported - I've seen cases where the base wage was recorded but not the tips. Since you're planning to retire next year, this is also a good time to think about Medicare enrollment timing if you're not already covered through an employer plan. The Social Security and Medicare timelines don't always align perfectly, so it's worth planning both together.

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Thank you for the professional perspective! This is exactly the kind of comprehensive advice I was hoping to find. You're right about the tip reporting - I actually worked as a server for about 3 years in the early 90s and I'm not sure all those tips were properly documented. I'll definitely look into that when I'm reviewing my earnings history. The Medicare timing point is really important too. I hadn't even thought about how those enrollment periods might not line up with my Social Security claiming decision. I'll need to research that more so I don't accidentally create a gap in coverage or miss an enrollment window. It sounds like there are quite a few more details to consider than I initially realized, but at least now I have a clear roadmap of what to investigate. This community has been incredibly helpful in breaking down what seemed like a mysterious discrepancy into understandable factors.

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One more thing to consider that I haven't seen mentioned yet - make sure you understand how working while receiving Social Security benefits might affect your payments if you're planning to retire but potentially do some part-time work. If you claim benefits before your full retirement age and continue to earn income, there's an earnings test that could temporarily reduce your benefits. For 2024, if you're under FRA for the entire year, Social Security deducts $1 from your benefits for every $2 you earn above $22,320. This changes in the year you reach FRA, and there's no earnings test once you reach your full retirement age. This might not apply to your situation, but it's worth knowing about since many people assume they can claim Social Security and continue working part-time without any impact on their benefits. The good news is that any benefits withheld due to the earnings test aren't lost forever - they're recalculated and added back to your monthly benefit amount once you reach FRA. Given all the complexity you've uncovered in this thread, you might want to consider meeting with a Social Security representative in person at your local office once you get your earnings record corrected. They can run scenarios for you and help you understand exactly how different claiming strategies would affect your specific situation.

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Just to add to what everyone else has said - you're absolutely right that 401k assets don't matter for regular Social Security retirement benefits! I went through this same process last year at 64. The online application was pretty smooth and they only asked about my work history and earnings, nothing about savings or retirement accounts. One tip: make sure you have your tax returns handy for the past couple years, especially if you had any self-employment income. They might ask you to verify some earnings if there are gaps in their records. Also, if you haven't already, definitely check your earnings record on your my Social Security account before applying to make sure everything looks accurate - I found a missing year from an old employer that I was able to get corrected before filing. Good luck with your application! The whole process was way easier than I expected.

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This is super helpful, thank you! I haven't checked my earnings record in a while so I'll definitely do that first. Did you have to wait long after applying to start receiving benefits? I'm trying to figure out my timeline since I'm still job hunting but might need the income sooner rather than later.

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For me it took about 6 weeks from application to first payment, but I applied about 2 months before I wanted benefits to start. You can actually choose your start date when you apply - you don't have to start benefits immediately. Since you're still job hunting, you might want to think about whether starting benefits right away makes sense, especially given the reduction for filing early that someone mentioned earlier. The timing can be tricky when you're balancing immediate financial needs vs. long-term benefit amounts.

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Great question and I'm glad you asked! Everyone here has given you solid advice - you definitely DON'T need to report your 401k for regular Social Security retirement benefits. I went through this exact situation two years ago when I applied at 62. Just want to emphasize what a few others mentioned: make absolutely sure you understand the financial impact of filing at 63 vs waiting. That permanent reduction is no joke - for me it was worth it because of health concerns, but it's a big decision. Also, since you mentioned being unemployed, don't forget that once you start collecting SS, if you do find work later, there are earnings limits until you reach full retirement age that could temporarily reduce your benefits. But again, 401k withdrawals won't count toward those limits if you need to tap into that money. The online application really is straightforward - just have your employment history ready and double-check your earnings record first like others suggested. Good luck!

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Thanks for sharing your experience! As someone new to all this Social Security stuff, it's really reassuring to hear from people who've actually been through the process. The earnings limit thing is something I definitely need to research more - I had no idea that was even a factor. Quick question: when you say the online application asks for employment history, do they want like exact dates and addresses for every job, or is it more general? I've had quite a few different positions over the years and I'm worried about getting all the details perfectly accurate.

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I'm new to this community and just wanted to say thank you to everyone who has shared their experiences and solutions in this thread! I'm facing the exact same representative payee email conflict issue - I'm my adult daughter's rep payee for her SSDI benefits and have been locked out of my own SSA account for over a year. Like so many others here, I was repeatedly told by regular SSA customer service that creating a new email was my only option, which I really didn't want to do. Finding this thread has been such a relief - it's incredible how this community has provided clearer, more actionable solutions than months of dealing with SSA directly. I'm particularly encouraged by Miranda's recent success story and all the specific terminology that's been shared here. The phrase "account separation due to representative payee email conflict" and the advice about asking for "Tier 2 technical specialists" are exactly the kind of insider knowledge I needed. I had no idea there were different levels of technical support or that using their internal language would make such a difference. I'm planning to try the Claimyr service first to reach technical support quickly, then use the specific approaches outlined here. For other newcomers reading this, what really stands out is how this community turned what seemed like an impossible bureaucratic problem into a manageable step-by-step solution. I'll definitely report back with my results to help future community members. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge - this is exactly the kind of support that makes navigating these complex government systems possible!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and discovered this thread while dealing with my own representative payee nightmare. I'm my spouse's rep payee for their disability benefits and ran into the exact same email conflict when trying to set up my personal SSA account. What's incredible about this community is how everyone has provided such detailed, actionable advice. I've been taking notes on all the specific phrases people have shared - especially that "account separation due to representative payee email conflict" terminology that seems to be the magic words for reaching the right technical specialists. I'm also planning to try the Claimyr service approach based on all the positive feedback here. The idea of actually reaching a human at SSA in 20 minutes instead of hours sounds almost too good to be true after my recent experiences with their phone system! It's so encouraging to see Miranda's recent success story and know that multiple newcomers like us are all preparing to use these same proven strategies. This thread has honestly been a lifesaver - I was starting to think I'd have to give up on accessing my own benefits information online. Looking forward to hopefully adding another success story to this incredibly helpful resource soon!

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I'm new to this community and absolutely amazed by how helpful this thread has been! I'm dealing with the exact same representative payee email conflict - I'm my elderly mother's rep payee and haven't been able to access my own SSA account for about 8 months now. Reading through everyone's experiences has given me so much hope after months of frustration. Like many others here, I was told repeatedly by regular SSA reps that creating a new email was my only option, but I really didn't want to manage multiple accounts either. Miranda's recent success story from last week is incredibly encouraging! The fact that she got it resolved in 45 minutes using the specific phrase "account separation due to representative payee email conflict" gives me the confidence to finally try this approach. I'm definitely going to use the Claimyr service to reach technical support quickly and ask specifically for Tier 2 specialists if needed. For other newcomers who might be reading this, what strikes me most is how this community provided clearer guidance in one thread than months of calling SSA directly. Having the exact terminology they use internally makes all the difference - I never would have known to ask for "account separation" specifically. I'll absolutely report back with my results to help future community members. Thank you to everyone who shared their solutions and experiences - this kind of detailed community knowledge is exactly what people like us need to navigate these complex government systems successfully!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also brand new here and just found this incredibly helpful thread while searching for solutions to my own representative payee email conflict. I'm my disabled veteran husband's rep payee and have been completely locked out of my personal SSA account for about 10 months now. Like you and so many others here, I was repeatedly told by regular customer service that creating a new email was my only option, which felt overwhelming since I already struggle with managing technology. Finding this thread has been such a relief - it's amazing how this community has provided step-by-step solutions where SSA's own representatives couldn't help. I'm particularly encouraged by Miranda's recent success and all the specific guidance about using phrases like "account separation due to representative payee email conflict." I had no idea there were different tiers of technical support or that using their internal terminology would make such a difference. I'm definitely planning to try the Claimyr service approach first, then follow the exact steps outlined here. What really stands out to me is how supportive this community is for newcomers like us. Everyone has taken the time to share not just what worked, but the specific details that made the difference. I'll definitely report back with my results too - the more recent success stories we can add, the better this resource becomes for future members facing this same frustrating situation. Thank you for adding your voice to this incredibly valuable discussion!

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