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I'm sorry for your loss, Liam. As a newcomer to this community, I've been reading through all these helpful responses and wanted to add one more piece of advice based on my experience helping my mother with similar issues. When you call SSA on Monday, also ask them about the exact cutoff date they use for determining benefit eligibility in the month of death. While everyone here is correct that benefits aren't payable for November (the month she passed), there can sometimes be confusion about how they handle deaths that occur very early in the month. Since your aunt passed on November 3rd, this shouldn't be an issue, but getting their official policy clarification will help you understand exactly why the October payment (paid in November) is legitimate while anything for November would not be. Also, if you haven't already done so, consider contacting her bank to ask about their procedures for handling direct deposits after account holder death - some banks freeze accounts immediately upon notification while others allow final government payments to process normally. Having this information upfront can help you avoid any surprises when that November payment comes through.

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That's really helpful advice about asking for their official policy on cutoff dates, Mia. Even though November 3rd seems clearly in the "no benefits for November" category, getting their exact criteria will help me understand the reasoning and avoid any confusion. Your point about contacting the bank is also excellent - I should definitely find out their procedures for handling posthumous government payments before that November payment potentially arrives. It would be awful to have the payment frozen or create complications just because I didn't communicate with the bank properly. I'm putting together quite a comprehensive list of questions and actions for Monday thanks to everyone's input here. This community has really helped me feel prepared to handle this situation properly rather than just hoping for the best.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Liam. As a newcomer to this community, I've been following this conversation and I'm really impressed by how thorough and helpful everyone has been with their advice. You've received excellent guidance about the payment timing and process. I wanted to add one small but important detail from my own experience helping with my father's estate - when you call SSA on Monday, consider asking them for an estimated timeline for when the October payment might be processed. While others have mentioned it could take 2-3 weeks longer than usual, getting a specific timeframe from SSA can help you plan better and know when to follow up if the payment doesn't arrive as expected. Also, since you mentioned your aunt's payment was typically around $1,680, having that exact amount confirmed with SSA during your call can help ensure there are no discrepancies when the final payment does come through. You're clearly being very diligent about handling her affairs properly, and this community has given you a solid roadmap for navigating the SSA process. Wishing you the best as you work through this difficult time.

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I'm so sorry you're going through this - the system really failed your family when they didn't automatically transition her to DAC benefits at 18. As someone who's helped others navigate this maze, I'd add a couple things to the excellent advice already given: When you call SSA tomorrow, ask to speak with a supervisor if the first person doesn't seem knowledgeable about DAC benefits - not all representatives are familiar with these cases. Also, if your daughter has been without health insurance during this 6-year gap, mention that too since Medicaid eligibility often comes with disability benefits. The retroactive payment potential here is significant given the length of time, so definitely don't let them discourage you from pursuing this. You're being a great advocate for your daughter - keep pushing!

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Thank you so much for the encouragement! You're absolutely right about asking for a supervisor - I've learned from this thread that not all SSA representatives understand these specialized cases. And yes, the lack of health insurance has been a huge burden on our family during these 6 years. She's needed ongoing medical care and therapy that we've had to pay out of pocket for. I'm feeling much more prepared for tomorrow's call now thanks to everyone's advice here. It's amazing how this community has taught me more about navigating SSA in one day than I learned in years of trying to figure it out on my own!

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I'm a newcomer here but wanted to share that my sister went through something very similar. The key thing that helped us was documenting EVERYTHING - every phone call, every piece of mail, every submission. When we finally got to the hearing level, having that paper trail showing SSA's failures (like not reviewing submitted evidence) really helped our case. Also, when you call tomorrow, ask them to put notes in your daughter's file about the missing DAC review at age 18 - get the representative's name and ID number. That creates an official record of the system failure. One more tip: if they try to tell you it's "too late" for DAC benefits, that's not true - there's no time limit for filing if the review never happened in the first place. You've got this!

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Thank you for sharing your sister's experience! The documentation tip is really valuable - I wish I had been keeping better records from the beginning, but I'll definitely start now. Getting them to put notes in the file about the missing DAC review is brilliant - I wouldn't have thought to ask for that specifically. It's so helpful to hear from someone whose family went through the same situation and came out the other side successfully. Did your sister end up getting the retroactive benefits back to when she should have been reviewed initially?

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Fighting Social Security overpayment after SSA office errors - do I have any recourse?

I'm at my wit's end dealing with an SSA overpayment issue that wasn't even my fault! Back in March, a representative at my local office in Henderson made several mistakes during my initial interview. They set up my payments incorrectly (among other errors) which was eventually caught during a review. When I was notified, I immediately went to the office to fix it. The Henderson office told me I needed to repay ALL the money I'd received. I specifically asked if I could just suspend my benefits until everything was sorted out, but they claimed that wasn't an option. The rep insisted I had to sign some form (can't remember the number now) for them to fix anything. When I asked if I'd get my correct payment amount back eventually, they just said "you should." Over the next few months, I made at least 5 trips to the Henderson office only to be told "it's under review" each time. I finally discovered they'd transferred my case to the Springfield office without telling me! Now I'm in an even worse situation. Since I hadn't received any payments since November, I was really struggling financially. The SSA gave me 3 months of benefits as an advance, but now they're trying to claw back almost the exact amount they originally owed me before catching their mistake! Do I have any grounds to fight this clawback? And is there any way to report that the Henderson office needs serious retraining? If I have any SSA issues in the future, I'll drive the extra 45 minutes to Springfield because the Henderson people clearly don't know what they're doing.

I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now - SSA made errors during my disability review and now they're saying I owe back thousands of dollars that I never should have received in the first place. It's so frustrating when their mistakes become our financial burden! I've been following this thread closely and wanted to add a few things that have helped me: 1. **Document EVERYTHING** - I started keeping a detailed log of every phone call, office visit, and interaction. Include names, dates, times, and exactly what was said. This has been invaluable when different reps give conflicting information. 2. **Ask for supervisor notes** - When you meet with supervisors, ask them to add notes to your case file about what was discussed and any commitments made. This creates an official record that can't be ignored later. 3. **Consider filing a complaint with your state's disability advocacy organization** - They often have more pull with SSA than individual complaints and can sometimes resolve issues faster than the formal waiver process. The system is definitely broken, but don't give up. You clearly have a strong case since this was entirely their error and you tried to fix it immediately. Keep fighting - you shouldn't have to pay for their incompetence!

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Your advice about documenting everything is spot on! I wish I had started keeping detailed records from the beginning instead of just getting frustrated. I'm definitely going to start that log now and try to recreate what I can remember from my previous interactions. The suggestion about asking supervisors to add notes to the case file is brilliant - I never would have thought to request that. It's both comforting and infuriating to know that so many of us are dealing with the same issues. At least we can help each other navigate this mess! Thanks for sharing what's working for you - it gives me hope that persistence will eventually pay off.

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I'm so sorry you're going through this nightmare - it's absolutely infuriating when SSA's own mistakes become your financial burden! Reading through all the excellent advice here, I wanted to add one more resource that might help. Contact your local Legal Aid Society - many have SSA specialists who can help with overpayment waivers at no cost. They're often more effective than going it alone because they know exactly how to phrase things in "SSA language" and have established relationships with the offices. Also, if you haven't already, consider filing a complaint with the SSA Office of Inspector General (OIG) about the Henderson office's handling of your case. While it won't directly fix your overpayment issue, it creates an official record of their errors and might prevent others from going through what you're experiencing. The combination of the waiver request (SSA-632), personal conference with a Springfield supervisor, and having an advocate in your corner should give you the best chance of getting this resolved properly. Don't let them wear you down - you're absolutely in the right here and deserve to have their mistakes corrected without financial penalty to you.

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This is such valuable information - thank you for mentioning Legal Aid! I hadn't thought about getting professional help with the language and phrasing for my waiver request. That could make a huge difference since I've been struggling with how to present everything effectively. I'll definitely look into my local Legal Aid Society and see if they have SSA specialists available. Filing a complaint with the OIG about Henderson is also a great suggestion - even if it doesn't directly help my case, it might prevent others from dealing with the same incompetence. It's amazing how much helpful advice this community has provided. I feel like I actually have a solid plan now instead of just feeling overwhelmed and frustrated. Thank you for taking the time to share these resources!

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Just wanted to add something that might help with your planning - since you're considering delaying your benefits until 70, you might want to explore the "file and suspend" strategy that used to be available (though it ended in 2016). However, there's still a consideration called "restricted application" if you were born before 1954. But more importantly for your situation: your wife's spousal benefit is based on your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) at your full retirement age, NOT the delayed retirement credits you'd earn by waiting until 70. So her spousal benefit won't increase even if you wait. This means you might want to consider filing at your FRA (around 66-67) so she can start receiving her spousal benefits, rather than having both of you wait. The math can get complex depending on your ages and benefit amounts, so definitely consider running scenarios or consulting with SSA before making the final decision!

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This is really helpful information! I didn't realize that my wife's spousal benefit wouldn't increase even if I delay my retirement benefits until 70. That definitely changes the calculation - it sounds like there might not be much advantage to both of us waiting if she can start receiving 50% of my full retirement age benefit as soon as I file. Do you happen to know if there are any online calculators that can help model these different scenarios? It would be great to see the numbers side by side before making this decision.

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Yes, there are several good calculators available! The Social Security Administration has their own retirement estimator at ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/estimator.html that can help with basic scenarios. For more detailed spousal benefit planning, I've found AARP's Social Security Calculator and the calculators at MaximizeMySocialSecurity.com to be really helpful - they let you model different filing strategies and show the cumulative benefits over time. Many financial advisors also use software that can run these scenarios if you want professional help with the analysis. The key numbers you'll want to plug in are both of your current ages, your estimated monthly benefit at full retirement age, and different potential claiming dates. Don't forget to factor in that your wife can claim as early as 62 (though at a reduced amount) while you continue working and delay your own benefits if that makes sense financially.

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Thanks for those calculator recommendations! I'm new to navigating Social Security benefits and this thread has been incredibly informative. As someone just starting to research this for my own family situation, I wanted to ask - when using these calculators, should we be inputting our current estimated annual earnings or trying to project what our final earnings will be at retirement? I know Social Security uses your highest 35 years of earnings, but I'm not sure if these tools account for future wage growth or if we need to estimate that ourselves. Also, do most of these calculators factor in cost of living adjustments (COLA) when projecting future benefit amounts?

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this process with my own kids a few years ago. All the advice here is spot-on, especially about filing IMMEDIATELY! I can't stress this enough - the 6-month retroactive limit for children's benefits is real and it's heartbreaking how much money families lose by not knowing this. One thing I'd add is that when your brother calls SSA, he should specifically ask about "auxiliary benefits" for his children - that's the technical term they use. Also, make sure he mentions that he just received his disability approval so they understand the timeline. The family maximum calculation can be confusing, but even with the reduction, his kids should receive a meaningful amount. In my case with 2 children, we ended up getting about 75% of what the full 50% per child would have been due to the family cap. Your brother has already fought so hard for 5 years to get his disability - don't let SSA's confusing system cost his children thousands in benefits they're entitled to. File those applications this week if possible!

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This is such an overwhelming but helpful thread! I'm new to navigating all this SSA stuff and honestly feeling pretty lost. Reading about the family maximum and 6-month limits is making me realize how many complicated rules there are that they don't explain upfront. It's scary to think how much money families could lose just by not knowing the right terminology or deadlines. Thank you to everyone sharing their real experiences - it's so much more helpful than trying to decipher the official SSA website! I'm definitely saving this thread in case I ever need to help someone else through this process.

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I'm so glad to see this thread - it's helping me understand my own situation better! My sister just got approved for SSDI after a 3-year battle and I had no idea about the separate application process for children's benefits or the 6-month retroactive limit. Reading everyone's experiences here has been eye-opening. The SSA really should make this information more accessible upfront instead of families having to learn about these crucial deadlines after the fact. It's frustrating how many hoops you have to jump through when you're already dealing with so much stress from the disability process itself. Thank you to everyone sharing their knowledge - this community is invaluable for navigating these complex government systems!

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