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Peyton Clarke

Will my Social Security widow's benefits for 2025 include the COLA increase?

I'm turning 60 in December and just submitted my application for widow's benefits to start in January 2025. When the SSA claims specialist calculated my estimated payment amount, I wasn't sure if that figure already had the cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) included for 2025. The amount they quoted me was $1,874 monthly. Do new widow's beneficiaries qualify for the annual COLA in their first year? Or does that only kick in after you've been receiving benefits for a full year? Also, if the COLA isn't included in that estimate, when would I see the increase? Would it be automatic or do I need to contact SSA about it? Sorry for all the questions, but this is really important for my budget planning next year.

Vince Eh

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Yes, you'll get the COLA! When SSA calculates your widow's benefit starting in January 2025, it will automatically include any COLA that was announced in October 2024 (for 2025). You don't need to do anything special to receive it - it's built into everyone's benefits, even if you're just starting. The SSA typically announces the COLA in October for the following year. So the amount they quoted you might not include the 2025 COLA if they calculated it before the announcement. Your actual payment could be slightly higher once they apply the COLA percentage.

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Peyton Clarke

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Thank you so much for explaining! So do you think I should call them back in November to get an updated estimate that includes the 2025 COLA? I really need to know the exact amount for planning purposes.

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congrats on the widows benefit! i got mine last year and yes the COLA was in there from day 1. just remember the estimate they give u might change a little bit when they finalize everything

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Peyton Clarke

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Thanks for sharing your experience. Did your final amount end up being pretty close to the estimate they gave you initially?

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The $1,874 estimate they provided may or may not include the 2025 COLA, depending on when you applied and how they calculated it. Here's how it works: 1) If you applied recently and they calculated your benefit before the October 2024 COLA announcement, then no, that estimate wouldn't include the 2025 COLA 2) All beneficiaries receive the COLA starting with their January payment, regardless of when they started receiving benefits 3) The COLA is applied to your primary insurance amount (PIA), which is the base figure used to calculate all benefits The calculation for widow's benefits is complex because it depends on several factors: your age at application (reduction for filing before your FRA), whether your deceased spouse took benefits early, and the maximum family benefit limit. If budget planning is critical, I'd recommend calling SSA after the 2025 COLA is announced (usually mid-October 2024) to get the updated amount.

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Peyton Clarke

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This is incredibly helpful! I didn't realize there were so many factors involved. I'll definitely call after the October announcement to get the updated figure. Is there a specific department I should ask for when I call?

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Ezra Beard

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When I started getting my retirement benefits 2 years ago, I had the same question! The payment amount they first told me was actually wrong and I had to call them 3 different times to get it straightened out. So definitely double-check in December before your payments start.

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This is good advice. It's always wise to verify your benefit amount, especially before payments begin. Sometimes there can be discrepancies in how benefits are calculated, particularly with survivor benefits which have additional complexity.

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I've been trying to reach SSA for weeks about a similar issue with my widow's benefits calculation and keep getting disconnected or waiting for hours. I finally tried a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got through to an agent in under 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Regarding your question - yes, you'll get the COLA from day one of your benefits. The estimate they gave you probably doesn't include it yet though, since the 2025 COLA won't be announced until October 2024.

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Peyton Clarke

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Thank you for the tip! I've been dreading having to call them again because last time I was on hold for over an hour and then got disconnected. I'll check out that service if I have trouble getting through when I call in October.

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DOES ANYONE KNOW IF WIDOWS BENEFITS ARE TAXABLE?? I'm in a similar situation and just realized I haven't even thought about taxes! Sorry to hijack your thread but figured since we're both dealing with widows benefits...

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Vince Eh

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Yes, widow's benefits can be taxable depending on your total income. If your combined income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of your Social Security benefits) exceeds $25,000 for individuals or $32,000 for joint filers, up to 85% of your benefits may be taxable. You might want to start a new thread with your specific tax situation for more detailed answers.

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Aria Khan

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listen the SSA people dont even know half the time when you call they told me one thing and then my actual benefit was different so dont stress about the exact number now just know itll have whatever COLA they approve

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While frontline SSA representatives do their best, benefit calculations can be complex, especially for survivors. If you receive inconsistent information, consider requesting to speak with a Technical Expert who specializes in benefit computations. They can often provide more detailed and accurate information about how your specific benefit was calculated.

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Peyton Clarke

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I appreciate everyone's responses! I'm going to wait until after the COLA announcement in October and then call the SSA to get an updated estimate. It sounds like I'll definitely get the COLA increase included in my January payment, which is reassuring. I'm still a bit confused about how they calculate widow's benefits though. Is the $1,874 they quoted me based on my deceased husband's record alone, or does it also factor in my own work history somehow?

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That's an excellent question about the calculation. The $1,874 is based on your deceased husband's earnings record, not yours. As a widow, you're entitled to between 71.5% and 100% of your deceased husband's primary insurance amount (PIA), depending on your age when you begin receiving benefits. At 60, you'd receive 71.5% of his PIA. Your own work history becomes relevant if you're eligible for retirement benefits on your own record. In that case, you would ultimately receive the higher of either your own retirement benefit or the widow's benefit. You can actually switch between benefits at different times to maximize your payments - many widows take reduced widow's benefits early and then switch to their own (unreduced) retirement benefits at full retirement age if that amount is higher.

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@Tobias Lancaster explained it perfectly! Just to add a bit more context - since you re'applying at 60, you re'getting the earliest possible widow s'benefit which is why it s'reduced to 71.5% of your husband s'PIA. If you have your own work record and think you might qualify for a higher retirement benefit later, you could potentially do what s'called a restricted "application strategy." You d'take the reduced widow s'benefit now and then switch to your own retirement benefit at your full retirement age probably (67 if) it s'higher. This way you get some income now while letting your own benefit potentially grow with delayed retirement credits if you wait past full retirement age. Definitely worth asking SSA about both scenarios when you call for that updated estimate!

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Max Knight

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I went through this exact same process last year when I applied for widow's benefits at 62. The estimate they gave me initially did NOT include the COLA, but when my payments actually started in January, the COLA was automatically applied. One thing I wish someone had told me - keep all your paperwork from the application process! When I got my first payment statement, I compared it to my original estimate and could see exactly where the COLA increase was added. It made me feel more confident that everything was calculated correctly. Also, don't be surprised if your first payment is slightly delayed in January. Mine came about a week later than expected, but SSA said that's normal for new beneficiaries as they finalize all the calculations. The important thing is that you WILL get the COLA from day one - it's automatic for all Social Security recipients regardless of when you start receiving benefits. Good luck with everything, and I'm sorry for your loss. The whole process can feel overwhelming, but the SSA folks were actually pretty helpful once I got through to someone knowledgeable.

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Mei Liu

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Thank you so much for sharing your firsthand experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through this exact process. I definitely will keep all my paperwork - that's great advice about being able to compare the original estimate to the actual payment statement. I'm sorry for your loss as well. It's comforting to know that even though the process feels overwhelming right now, it does work out and the COLA will be included automatically. The tip about the first payment potentially being delayed is helpful too - I'll make sure to budget for that possibility in January. Did you end up calling SSA after the COLA announcement to get an updated estimate, or did you just wait to see what your actual payment would be?

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Zoe Stavros

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Peyton. I just went through a similar situation with my mother's widow's benefits application last year, so I wanted to share what we learned. The good news is that yes, you'll definitely receive the COLA increase starting with your first payment in January 2025! The COLA applies to all Social Security beneficiaries regardless of when they start receiving benefits. However, the $1,874 estimate they gave you likely does NOT include the 2025 COLA since it hasn't been announced yet (that typically happens in mid-October). So your actual monthly payment will probably be a bit higher than that estimate. One thing that really helped us was creating a simple spreadsheet to track all the information. We noted the original estimate, then when the COLA was announced in October, we calculated what the new amount should be (you can find COLA calculators online). When her first payment came in January, we could easily verify that everything was calculated correctly. Also, don't hesitate to call SSA in November or December to get that updated estimate with the COLA included - it really does help with budgeting and peace of mind. The representatives are usually pretty good about walking you through how they arrived at the final number. You're asking all the right questions, and it shows you're being smart about planning ahead. Wishing you all the best during this difficult time.

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Mohammed Khan

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Thank you so much, Zoe, for the kind words and practical advice! I really appreciate you taking the time to share what you learned from your mother's experience. The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I'm definitely going to set that up to track everything. It would be such a relief to be able to verify that the calculations are correct when that first payment arrives. I hadn't thought about looking for COLA calculators online, but that makes perfect sense. Being able to estimate what the updated amount should be after the October announcement will definitely help with my budgeting and give me more confidence when I call SSA for the updated estimate. It's comforting to know that other families have navigated this successfully. Thank you again for the thoughtful guidance during what is indeed a difficult time.

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I'm going through a similar situation with my father's survivor benefits right now, so I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here. From what I've learned through my own research and talking to SSA, the COLA is indeed automatic for all beneficiaries starting in January, regardless of when you began receiving benefits. The tricky part is that estimates given before the October COLA announcement won't include it. One thing I discovered that might be helpful - you can actually check the SSA website around mid-October when they announce the COLA percentage. They usually put out a press release with the exact percentage increase, and then you can calculate roughly what your new amount should be by multiplying your current estimate by that percentage. Also, I've found that calling SSA first thing in the morning (around 8 AM) tends to have shorter wait times than calling later in the day. Might save you some frustration when you call for that updated estimate! Best of luck with everything, and I'm sorry for your loss. It's clear you're being very thoughtful about planning ahead, which will serve you well.

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AstroAce

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Thank you for sharing your experience and the helpful tips! The timing advice about calling at 8 AM is really valuable - I'll definitely try that when I call for my updated estimate. And you're absolutely right about being able to calculate the rough increase myself once the COLA percentage is announced. It's reassuring to know there are ways to double-check the numbers. I appreciate everyone in this thread sharing their real-world experiences with widow's benefits and COLA increases. It's made me feel much more confident about the process and what to expect. Sorry for your loss as well, and I hope your father's survivor benefits situation gets resolved smoothly.

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