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I feel so embarrassed after calling the Social Security office yesterday. I asked the rep about qualifying for benefits through 'windexing' and she thought I was talking about glass cleaner! There was this awkward pause and then she asked if I meant window cleaning services. I'm pretty sure I've heard this term somewhere related to Social Security benefits, but now I'm totally confused. My situation: My husband passed away when he was 56 (3 years ago), and I just turned 60 last month. I'm trying to understand how my survivor benefits will be calculated. Will they be based on my deceased husband's FRA/PIA, or will they be 'windexed' (whatever that actually means)? I think I might be mixing up terminology, but I've heard something about benefits being reduced or affected by some special calculation. Can anyone clarify what the correct term is and how survivor benefits actually work in my situation? Thanks in advance!
I've been trying to figure out how much I'd get from my husband's Social Security. He's 62 and planning to file for his retirement benefits next year. I'm 60 and haven't worked enough to qualify for my own benefit (was a stay-at-home mom most of my life). The SSA website says something about 50% of his benefit, but is that 50% of what he'd get at 62 or 50% of his full retirement amount? Does it matter when I file? And if I wait until I'm 67 (my FRA I think), would I get more than if I claim at 62? The calculators online are confusing me. If his monthly benefit at FRA would be about $2,800, how much could I expect to receive as a spouse?
Thank you all for the helpful information! One more question - if my husband decides to keep working after he starts collecting benefits (he only plans to work part-time), would that affect my spousal benefit at all?
If your husband works while collecting benefits before his FRA, his benefits might be reduced temporarily due to the earnings test (in 2025, $1 in benefits is withheld for every $2 earned above $23,100). However, this would not directly affect your spousal benefit calculation. If his continued work increases his PIA through higher earnings replacing lower earnings in his 35-year calculation, both his benefit and your spousal benefit could increase slightly. After he reaches his FRA, there's no earnings test, so he can earn any amount without it affecting his current benefits.
One thing that might help clarify this is to think of it in terms of timing strategy. Since you're 60 and your husband is 62, you have some time to plan this out optimally. Here's what I'd suggest considering: 1. Your husband could file at 62 and get his reduced benefit (~75% of his PIA) 2. You could wait until your FRA at 67 to claim spousal benefits and get the full 50% of his PIA ($1,400 based on your numbers) 3. This gives you 5 years to potentially work part-time and build up some of your own Social Security credits if desired The key insight that helped me was realizing that spousal benefits are calculated independently from what your spouse is actually receiving. So even if he takes the early filing reduction, your spousal benefit potential stays at that full 50% of his PIA as long as you wait until your FRA. Also, definitely get a my Social Security account set up online if you haven't already. The benefit estimators there will give you personalized numbers based on both of your actual earnings records, which is much more accurate than trying to calculate it manually.
I've been trying to figure out if my daughter (27) will ever qualify for Social Security benefits with her work history. She has some health issues and has only worked part-time jobs at or near minimum wage for the past 5 years. I did some math that I want to double-check with people who understand the system better: From what I've read, the 2025 amount for one work credit is $1,810. You need 4 credits per year (max) and 40 total for retirement eligibility. If she works just 25 hours/week at federal minimum wage ($7.25/hr), that's about $725/month or $8,700/year. Dividing $8,700 by $1,810 = 4.8 credits, which means she could earn her 4 max credits each year. So technically, even with limited part-time work at minimum wage for 10 years, she should qualify for at least some retirement benefits eventually, right? Or am I missing something about how the system calculates eligibility?
Just wanted to add that if your daughter is consistently working part-time, she should also keep detailed records of her earnings and work history. Sometimes there are errors in SSA's records, and having your own documentation can help resolve discrepancies later. Also, encourage her to create a my Social Security account online once she has a few years of work history. She can track her credits in real-time and get benefit estimates as her situation evolves. It's much easier to spot and fix errors early rather than years down the road when she's ready to apply for benefits. The fact that you're planning ahead for her future shows great foresight - many people don't think about this until it's too late to make strategic decisions about work history.
As someone who's navigated similar waters with a family member, I wanted to add that you might also want to look into your state's disability services and vocational rehabilitation programs. Many states offer job training, assistive technology, and workplace accommodations that could help your daughter increase her earning capacity while managing her health condition. These programs sometimes partner with employers who are specifically looking to hire people with disabilities, and they often provide ongoing support to both the employee and employer. It could be a pathway to higher wages or more stable employment, which would improve her future Social Security benefit calculations. Also, don't overlook that some part-time positions offer better hourly rates than minimum wage - remote customer service, data entry, or specialized skills she might develop could significantly boost those earnings within the same limited hours she can work.
There are several good resources for disability-friendly remote work! AbilityJobs.com and Getting Hired are specifically designed for job seekers with disabilities. FlexJobs also has a disability-friendly filter and tends to have higher-quality remote positions that pay above minimum wage. The Job Accommodation Network (JAN) at askjan.org has a searchable database of employers who have successfully accommodated workers with various health conditions - you can filter by remote work options. Many of these employers are actively looking to hire people with disabilities. Also check if your state's vocational rehabilitation office has partnerships with specific employers. In my state, they had direct connections with companies like Amazon (for remote customer service), several insurance companies, and tech firms that regularly hire remote workers with flexible schedules. The VR counselor can sometimes facilitate introductions and help negotiate accommodations upfront. LinkedIn has been surprisingly helpful too - searching for "remote" + "disability inclusive" or "neurodivergent friendly" brings up companies that actively promote inclusive hiring.
Great question! Some resources I'd recommend checking out: The Job Accommodation Network (JAN) has a searchable database of employers with good disability accommodation track records. Also look into FlexJobs - they specialize in remote and flexible work opportunities and often have positions that are naturally more accommodating to health conditions. Many federal contractors are also required to meet disability hiring goals and tend to have better accommodation processes. Your state's vocational rehabilitation office should have a list of local employer partners too. Don't forget to check if your daughter qualifies for any federal hiring preferences through programs like Schedule A if she's interested in government positions - they often have excellent benefits and accommodation policies.
Hi everyone, I'm getting ready to retire next year (turning 65 in April) and trying to figure out if my monthly annuity payments will affect my Social Security benefits. I have a pension annuity from my former employer that will pay about $2,100 per month, and I'm planning to claim my SS retirement benefits at my full retirement age. My financial advisor mentioned something about them being considered "income" and that I might need to pay taxes on my SS benefits, but wasn't clear if the annuity would actually reduce my SS payment amount. Does anyone know how the SSA treats annuity income? Will this affect how much I receive each month? Thanks in advance for any help!
Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses! Just to summarize what I've learned: 1. My private sector annuity won't reduce my actual SS benefit amount 2. However, it will count as income for tax purposes and might make my SS benefits taxable 3. I should consider tax withholding from my SS checks to avoid surprises 4. Since I'll be claiming at my FRA, the earnings test won't apply 5. I definitely need to consult with a tax professional before I retire This forum has been so helpful - much clearer information than I got from my financial advisor!
You've got a great summary there! One additional tip from someone who went through this transition recently - consider doing a "practice run" with your tax situation before you officially retire. You can estimate your combined income (annuity + half your projected SS benefit + any other income) and see where you'll fall tax-wise. Also, don't forget that if you have a traditional 401(k) or IRA, those withdrawals will also count toward your combined income for SS taxation purposes. It all adds up quickly! Having that tax withholding set up from the start like others mentioned is definitely the way to go. Good luck with your retirement planning - sounds like you're being smart about researching everything ahead of time!
Just opened my mail yesterday and got my COLA notice from Social Security showing my new payment amount for 2025. It said my monthly payment would increase to $1,875 starting in January. But when I checked my bank this morning, they only deposited $1,782! That's even LESS than what I was getting last year ($1,805). I checked my MySocialSecurity account online hoping to find some explanation, but there's absolutely nothing there about why my payment is lower. The online account still shows the old payment amount from December. Has anyone else had their actual deposit amount come in lower than what the COLA letter promised? Could this be a mistake or is there something they're not telling us about deductions?
For future reference, here's what I learned from my experience: The SSA and Medicare systems don't communicate well. Your COLA letter comes from SSA showing your gross benefit increase. Your Medicare Premium letter comes separately showing what you'll pay for Part B and any IRMAA surcharges. Then if you have a Medicare Advantage or Part D plan, those premiums may be deducted directly from your Social Security. Add in possible tax withholding, and you need to do the math yourself to figure out your actual deposit amount. The online MySocialSecurity account usually doesn't update with the new detailed breakdown until mid to late January.
This is such a common issue that trips up so many of us! I went through the exact same panic last year when my deposit was way different from my COLA letter. What helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track all the deductions: COLA amount minus Part B premium minus any IRMAA surcharge minus Medicare Advantage/Part D premium minus tax withholding (if any) = actual deposit amount. Now I do this calculation every December so I know what to expect in January. It's frustrating that we have to be our own accountants, but at least once you understand the system it makes sense. The key thing to remember is that your COLA letter is just showing the gross benefit increase - it doesn't account for any of the deductions that come out before your money hits the bank.
Demi Lagos
Just to add one more important point - you might want to compare what you'd get from your own retirement benefit (potentially reduced by WEP if your teaching wasn't covered by Social Security) versus your survivor benefit (reduced by GPO). In some cases, your own benefit might actually be higher, especially if you wait until your Full Retirement Age or later to claim it. Rules get complicated with the interplay between these provisions, which is why getting professional advice can be helpful. When I finally spoke with SSA, they ran both calculations for me, which was extremely helpful in my decision-making.
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Beatrice Marshall
AuthorThat's a great point! I worked enough in Social Security-covered jobs (about 12 years in the private sector) before teaching that I might qualify for my own retirement benefit. I'll definitely ask them to calculate both scenarios for me. Thank you for this suggestion!
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Giovanni Mancini
I'm so sorry for your loss, Beatrice. Navigating Social Security after losing a spouse is incredibly overwhelming, and the terminology doesn't help at all! Just wanted to add that since you mentioned working 12 years in the private sector, you should definitely ask SSA to run a detailed comparison. Sometimes people are surprised to find their own retirement benefit (even with WEP reduction) could be better than the GPO-reduced survivor benefit. Also, don't feel bad about the "windexing" mix-up - I've heard people confuse all sorts of Social Security terms! The representatives deal with genuine questions about everything imaginable, so I'm sure they've heard much stranger things than that. One more thing to consider: if your survivor benefit calculation does end up being very low due to GPO, you might want to explore whether delaying your claim could help in any way, or if there are any other benefits you might be eligible for. The rules are so complex that sometimes there are provisions that can help that aren't immediately obvious.
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