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I've been reading different posts about Social Security full retirement age and now I'm completely confused! Everyone seems to have a different FRA depending on their birth year. I'm turning 66 next month and already started Medicare Part A, but I'm wondering if I made a mistake by claiming SS benefits at 62. Nobody explained this FRA thing to me when I filed! I worked for 38 years at the same manufacturing company before health issues forced me to retire in 2021. When I became eligible for early SS benefits, I just applied right away since my pension wasn't enough to cover expenses. Now I'm worried I might have permanently reduced my benefit amount by not waiting until some magic "full retirement age" number. Can someone explain how I figure out what my actual FRA is? And is there anything I can do at this point to increase my monthly payment? Currently getting $2,210/month but struggling with inflation. Thanks for any help!
I'm reaching my full retirement age (FRA) in November 2024 and was planning to apply online for SS benefits starting January 2025. When I looked at my earnings record on the SSA website, I noticed my 2024 salary isn't showing up yet in my income chart. I'm earning significantly more in 2024 than some of my earlier years, so this year will definitely replace a lower income year in my top 35. Is there any advantage to waiting until my 2024 income posts to the system before I apply? Will it affect my monthly benefit amount? Or does SSA automatically recalculate once that income is reported? I don't want to leave money on the table, but also don't want to delay filing unnecessarily. Thanks for any advice!
Thank you all for the helpful responses! I'll go ahead and apply in October for my January start date. It's a relief to know that SSA will automatically recalculate and make adjustments once my 2024 earnings are processed. I appreciate everyone sharing their personal experiences too - it makes navigating this whole process much less stressful!
Just wanted to add one more consideration - make sure you understand the timing of when your benefits actually start vs when you apply. Since your FRA is November 2024, you can start receiving full benefits then if you want, or delay until January 2025 as you mentioned. But remember that each month you delay past your FRA (up until age 70), you earn delayed retirement credits that increase your benefit by about 0.67% per month. So if you delay from November 2024 to January 2025, that's 2 months of delayed credits which would permanently increase your monthly benefit by about 1.33%. Just something to factor into your decision along with the automatic recomputation for your 2024 earnings!
I just learned I'm eligible for spousal benefits that might be affected by the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and Government Pension Offset (GPO). My husband's been collecting SS retirement for 3 years, but I was getting a small pension from teaching (about $875/month). I just applied for my spousal benefits last month and the claims specialist mentioned I might be eligible for retroactive benefits. Here's what I'm confused about: Will they pay me retroactively for 6 months in 2025, or can they go all the way back to January 2025 (full 12 months)? The rep wasn't clear. And if I get a lump sum payment of say $8,500 for retroactive benefits, how will this affect my Medicare IRMAA surcharges? I'm already paying extra for Part B based on our 2023 income. Anyone dealt with this retroactive benefit/IRMAA situation? This whole WEP/GPO thing is giving me a headache trying to understand it!
When I was dealing with my WEP/GPO situation and couldn't get through to SSA on the phone, I tried Claimyr (claimyr.com) and they got me connected to a rep in about 10 minutes. Worth checking out if you're stuck in phone limbo - their video shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. The SSA rep I spoke with was really helpful and explained that the 6-month retroactivity is standard for spousal benefits, and walked me through how to handle the tax implications of the lump sum payment.
I'm also dealing with WEP/GPO issues and want to share what I learned from my experience. The 6-month retroactive limit is definitely correct for spousal benefits - I was hoping for more too but that's the standard rule. One thing that really helped me was keeping detailed records of all my pension information because SSA made errors in their initial WEP calculation. They had my pension amount wrong by about $50/month which affected my benefit reduction. Also, regarding the IRMAA impact, I'd strongly recommend setting aside about 15-20% of any lump sum you receive for potential future Medicare premium increases. When my lump sum hit two years later, my Part B premium jumped from the standard amount to an extra $70/month. It's frustrating but at least predictable once you understand the timeline. The whole WEP/GPO system really penalizes public servants but knowing what to expect helps with planning.
I'm turning 62 at the beginning of December 2024 and have submitted my application for early SS retirement benefits. Since I understand that Social Security is paid one month after the month you're eligible for, my first payment should arrive in February 2025. But I'm confused about WHEN in February I'll actually receive that first payment. Will it be deposited at the beginning, middle, or end of February? I'm trying to coordinate some bill payments and need to know exactly when that first deposit will hit my account. Does anyone here know the payment schedule for new retirees?
One more thing to be aware of - if February 2025 will be your first payment, make sure you have a budget plan for January. Many new retirees are caught off guard when they retire in December but don't receive any payment until February. This creates a gap month with no income. Just wanted to mention this in case you hadn't factored it into your planning.
Just wanted to add that you can actually check your exact payment date online once your benefits are approved. Log into your my Social Security account at ssa.gov and look for the "Benefit Verification Letter" or "Payment History" section. It will show you the specific dates when your payments are scheduled to arrive. This is especially helpful for that first payment since you'll be able to see exactly which Wednesday in February it's coming. Also, if you haven't already, make sure your direct deposit information is set up correctly in your account - it's much more reliable than waiting for a paper check to arrive in the mail.
My father passed away in November at 87 years old. Since he was pretty old-school, he never set up an online Social Security account. I'm working on getting his 2024 taxes prepared, but haven't received his Social Security 1099 form yet. I know these are supposed to be mailed by January 31st, but our mail has been unreliable lately. Should I wait another week before trying to contact Social Security about getting a replacement? I'm not even sure how to go about contacting them for this specific issue. Is there a dedicated number for tax document requests? I've heard their general line has crazy wait times. I've never handled a deceased parent's final tax filing before, so any advice on dealing with Social Security for this would be really appreciated!
my mom died last year too and i had same problem!! waited forever for her ss-1099 then gave up and did taxes without it. big mistake!! got a letter from irs 6 months later saying we underpaid taxes bc didn't report all her income!! had to file amended return and pay penalty and interest!! dont do what i did lol. definitely wait for that form or get an official replacement!!
OMG that sounds awful! Sorry you had to deal with that on top of losing your mom. The IRS can be so heartless sometimes. Did they at least reduce the penalty when you explained the situation?
hey just checking in - did you end up getting your dads 1099 yet? mine just came yesterday for my mom so maybe yours is on the way
Glad to hear it arrived! One more tip for your father's final return: if your father had any uncashed Social Security checks at the time of his death, those are considered income for the estate, not income for his final personal tax return. This is different from direct deposits received while he was alive, which do go on his final personal return. Just wanted to mention this since it's a common area of confusion.
That's a really helpful distinction about uncashed checks vs. direct deposits - I wouldn't have known that! Fortunately everything was direct deposit for my dad, but good to know for anyone else reading this thread. Thanks for all the detailed advice throughout this discussion, it's been incredibly helpful during a difficult time.
Nick Kravitz
Dont forget to look at other benefits too! My mom got widows benefits that were higher than her own SS check after my dad passed. They automatically should give you the higher amount but sometimes they miss things.
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Zoe Walker
AuthorThat's good to know - I'm widowed actually, but my husband didn't work much in later years because of his disability. I'll definitely ask about that when I speak with them. Thanks for mentioning it!
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Giovanni Rossi
I'm sorry you're going through this confusion, Zoe. It's unfortunately very common for people to feel overwhelmed by the Social Security system after they've already made their filing decision. One thing I'd like to add that others haven't mentioned yet - since you mentioned you're widowed, you should definitely explore survivor benefits from your late husband's record. Even if he had reduced earnings in his later years, his earlier work history might still provide you with a higher monthly benefit than what you're currently receiving on your own record. Also, regarding the earnings limit that Santiago's sister experienced - that's only temporary while you're under your FRA (which for you is 66 and 10 months). Once you reach your FRA, you can earn as much as you want without any reduction to your Social Security benefits. So if you're considering part-time work, it might be worth waiting until after you reach your FRA next year to avoid the earnings test penalty. The system really could be explained more clearly upfront, but don't beat yourself up too much about the early filing decision. Many people in similar health and financial situations make the same choice, and having that income for the past few years may have been exactly what you needed at the time.
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