As someone who just went through this decision process last year, I'd echo what others have said about the tax planning being the most important factor. I was in a similar situation - retired at 63 with a pension and some investment income. I ended up starting my SS benefits in September, and it worked out well tax-wise. Here's what I learned: **Processing tip**: Apply about 3 months before you want benefits to start. I applied in June for September benefits and everything went smoothly. **Tax withholding**: Definitely submit Form W-4V with your application! I chose 12% withholding and it saved me from a big tax surprise. You can always adjust it later if needed. **Quarterly estimated taxes**: Since you have pension income, you might already be making quarterly payments. Factor your SS income into those calculations - your tax preparer can help estimate the impact. **One thing I wish I'd known**: Your Medicare premiums (when you turn 65) will be deducted from your SS benefits automatically. So if you're doing tax planning now, remember that your actual SS deposit will be reduced by those premiums starting at 65. The timing flexibility gives you some control over your tax situation, which is one of the few advantages of claiming early. Sounds like you're thinking about it the right way!

As a newcomer to this community, I'm finding this discussion incredibly valuable! I'm 62 and considering early retirement next year, so the timing strategies you're all discussing are exactly what I need to understand. One question I haven't seen addressed yet: if you delay starting SS until later in the year for tax planning purposes, are you essentially "losing" those months of benefits permanently? Or is it more about shifting the timing to optimize your overall financial picture? Also, for those who've gone through this process - did you work with a financial planner who specializes in Social Security timing, or were you able to figure out the optimal strategy on your own? The tax implications seem pretty complex when you factor in pensions, 401k withdrawals, and other retirement income sources. Thanks to everyone sharing their real experiences - it's so much more helpful than the generic advice you find on most websites!

my neighbor said she filed early for ss and then withdrew her application when she found out about the reduction. I think u have like a year to change ur mind? might be worth looking into

I'm SHOCKED no one has mentioned the break-even calculation yet!! For a $19 reduction, you'd need to calculate how many months it would take for the extra money from claiming early to equal the reduced amount over time. It's usually around 12-15 years for people claiming a year early, so for one month early it might be longer. But you NEED to calculate this based on your specific situation!

Based on your situation, filing now appears to be a sound decision. The calculation your financial advisor provided is accurate - the breakeven period of 17 years for those 4 months of delay is quite long, especially considering the survivor benefit would replace your retirement benefit when your husband passes. One clarification regarding work: at your age (past FRA), there is no earnings limit at all. You could work full-time earning any amount with no reduction in benefits. The earnings limit only applies before FRA. For a complete analysis, you might also want to consider: 1. Tax implications - additional income could potentially push you into a higher tax bracket 2. Medicare premiums - higher income can affect IRMAA surcharges with a 2-year lag But in most cases, these factors wouldn't outweigh the benefit of claiming now rather than waiting those additional 4 months.

I went through this same decision process about 18 months ago! My situation was very similar - I was 67 with a husband already collecting his higher benefit, and I was torn between taking mine early or waiting for FRA. After running the numbers with three different sources (SSA calculator, AARP calculator, and a fee-only financial planner), they all pointed to the same conclusion your advisor gave you. The math is pretty straightforward when there's a significant survivor benefit waiting in the wings. What really helped me make the decision was realizing that Social Security isn't just about maximizing the total payout - it's about having reliable income when you need it. Those monthly payments started covering our grocery bills and gave us breathing room in our budget immediately. One practical tip: when you file, ask about having taxes withheld if you think you'll owe. You can choose 7%, 10%, 12%, or 22% withholding. It's easier than making quarterly estimated payments later. Also, if you haven't already, set up a my Social Security account online - makes tracking everything much simpler. You're making a smart, well-researched decision. Don't let decision paralysis cost you those monthly payments!

I'm sorry for your loss, Lindsey. This is such a challenging time to be dealing with complex financial decisions on top of everything else. Just wanted to add one more consideration that I don't think anyone has mentioned yet: if you do decide to take survivor benefits at 60 and continue working, make sure you understand how the earnings test works with your specific work situation. The $22,320 limit mentioned earlier is for wages/self-employment income, but there are some nuances around things like bonuses, commissions, or irregular income that can affect the calculation. Also, while you're waiting to speak with SSA, you might want to gather your husband's Social Security statement (if you have access) and your own most recent statement. Having both of those when you do finally speak with an agent will help them give you much more accurate projections. The strategy you're considering can definitely work well, but as others have emphasized, it really depends on your specific numbers. Don't let the complexity discourage you from exploring all your options - you deserve to make the choice that gives you the best financial security for the years ahead.

I'm so sorry for your loss, Lindsey. Navigating Social Security decisions during such a difficult time is incredibly overwhelming. I wanted to share something that might help while you're trying to reach SSA - you can create an account on ssa.gov and access your Social Security Statement online, which will show your estimated benefits at different claiming ages. While it won't give you the exact survivor benefit calculations (since that requires your husband's record), it will at least show you what your own retirement benefit would look like at age 70. One thing I learned from my own experience with widow benefits is that timing really matters with the earnings test. If you're planning to work part-time and your income will be close to that $22,320 limit, you might want to consider the timing of when you claim and when you earn that income within the calendar year. Sometimes it's worth adjusting work schedules around benefit claiming to minimize the earnings test impact. Also, don't feel pressured to make this decision immediately when you turn 60. You have flexibility in when you file for survivor benefits - you don't have to claim them the moment you're eligible. Taking a few extra months to get solid information and run the numbers might be worth it for such an important long-term decision. The strategy you're considering is definitely used successfully by many widows, but as everyone has emphasized, the math really depends on your specific situation. Hang in there - you'll figure this out!

Great to see this got resolved! Just want to emphasize one more important point for anyone else reading this thread: if you're planning large withdrawals from retirement accounts or annuities, consider spreading them across multiple years if possible. While they won't affect your Social Security benefit amount, bunching large withdrawals into one year can push you into higher tax brackets and increase the taxation of your SS benefits significantly. A tax professional can help you strategize the timing to minimize the overall tax impact.

As someone who works in retirement planning, I want to add one more clarification that might help others: the Social Security Administration has a very specific definition of "earnings" that only includes wages from employment (W-2 income) and net earnings from self-employment. This is clearly outlined in their Publication 05-10069 "How Work Affects Your Benefits." What does NOT count as earnings for the Social Security earnings test: - Annuity payments - Pension benefits - IRA/401(k) withdrawals - Investment income (interest, dividends, capital gains) - Rental income - Social Security benefits themselves The confusion often comes from the fact that these same income sources DO count for determining if your Social Security benefits are taxable - but that's handled by the IRS, not SSA, and it's a completely separate calculation. Owen, you're absolutely safe withdrawing from your annuity without affecting your monthly benefit amount. Just keep good records for tax purposes!