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As someone who just went through this process myself, I wanted to add that when you contact SSA about missing earnings, be prepared for it to take some time. In my case, it took about 6 weeks for them to review my documentation and update my record. They had to verify the information with my former employer. Also, since you mentioned planning to retire next year, keep in mind that if you're born in 1960, your full retirement age is 67, not the 66 and 10 months mentioned above. The FRA gradually increases based on birth year. You can find your exact FRA on the SSA website or in your online account. One more tip: if you do decide to claim early at 62, the reduction is permanent - it doesn't go back to the full amount when you reach FRA. So make sure you're comfortable with that lower monthly payment for the rest of your life before making that decision.

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This is all really helpful information! I'm actually born in 1959, so my full retirement age is 66 and 10 months. But you're absolutely right about the permanent reduction if I claim at 62 - that's definitely something I need to factor in carefully. Six weeks to process the earnings correction seems reasonable, and since I'm not planning to file until next year anyway, that should give me plenty of time to get everything straightened out first. I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here - it's making me feel much more confident about navigating this whole process. I think my next steps are: 1) gather all my old tax documents, 2) submit the correction request to SSA, 3) wait for the updated calculations, and 4) then make an informed decision about when to claim. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion!

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who works in retirement planning - this whole thread is a perfect example of why it's so important to understand all the moving pieces with Social Security! I see this confusion all the time with clients. The survivor benefits piece that everyone identified is huge - when someone loses a spouse, they can often end up with a higher total monthly income from Social Security than they had when both spouses were alive, especially if the deceased spouse had higher earnings. One thing I'd add to the great advice already given: when you're reviewing your earnings record, pay special attention to years where you might have had multiple jobs or changed employers mid-year. Those transitions sometimes create gaps in reporting. Also, if you ever worked for tips (restaurant, salon, etc.), make sure those tip amounts were properly reported - I've seen cases where the base wage was recorded but not the tips. Since you're planning to retire next year, this is also a good time to think about Medicare enrollment timing if you're not already covered through an employer plan. The Social Security and Medicare timelines don't always align perfectly, so it's worth planning both together.

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Thank you for the professional perspective! This is exactly the kind of comprehensive advice I was hoping to find. You're right about the tip reporting - I actually worked as a server for about 3 years in the early 90s and I'm not sure all those tips were properly documented. I'll definitely look into that when I'm reviewing my earnings history. The Medicare timing point is really important too. I hadn't even thought about how those enrollment periods might not line up with my Social Security claiming decision. I'll need to research that more so I don't accidentally create a gap in coverage or miss an enrollment window. It sounds like there are quite a few more details to consider than I initially realized, but at least now I have a clear roadmap of what to investigate. This community has been incredibly helpful in breaking down what seemed like a mysterious discrepancy into understandable factors.

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Great to see you've got a solid plan worked out! Just wanted to add one more consideration - since you mentioned you and your husband both work part-time, you might also want to factor in any state taxes on the IRA withdrawal depending on where you live. Some states don't tax retirement income at all, while others do. Also, when you do withdraw from the IRA, make sure to have taxes withheld if you think you'll owe them - nothing worse than getting hit with a big tax bill next April! Most IRA custodians will withhold 10-20% for federal taxes if you request it during the withdrawal process. Sounds like you've really thought this through carefully with everyone's input here. Best of luck with the car shopping!

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Thanks for bringing up the state tax angle - that's something I definitely need to check since we're in a state that does tax retirement income. And yes, having taxes withheld upfront is great advice! I'd rather have a little extra taken out than scramble to pay a big bill later. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their knowledge and experiences here.

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact scenario two years ago! I was 69 and needed to replace my HVAC system unexpectedly. Cashed out about $15K from my traditional IRA to cover it. Like others have said, your monthly SS benefit amount stays the same - that was my biggest concern too. The main impact was on taxes. Since my husband and I were already in the 85% taxable range for SS benefits, the IRA withdrawal just meant we paid regular income tax on that $15K (plus it made more of our SS taxable, but we were already at the max). One thing I learned after the fact - if you're going to do this regularly or have other large expenses coming up, you might want to consider doing smaller withdrawals over multiple years instead of one big lump sum. Keeps you from jumping tax brackets unnecessarily. The peace of mind from having reliable transportation was totally worth it for us. Just make sure to set aside about 25-30% of whatever you withdraw for taxes to be safe!

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One thing to keep in mind is that SSA typically reviews earnings annually, not monthly. So if your mom claims early and works above the limit, she likely won't see immediate withholding - it usually happens the following year after they process her annual earnings report. This means she could receive several months of full benefits before any withholding occurs. Also, I'd suggest having her create a my.ssa.gov account if she hasn't already. She can view her earnings record, get benefit estimates, and track any changes to her account online. This makes it much easier to stay on top of everything and catch any errors early. The decision really comes down to her specific circumstances. If she's facing immediate financial hardship and the early benefits would prevent more serious consequences (like losing her home), then the permanent reduction might be an acceptable trade-off. Just make sure you're both prepared for the complexity of managing the earnings test if she continues working.

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This is really helpful information about the timing of the earnings review! I didn't realize SSA processes this annually rather than in real-time. That could actually work in my mom's favor - she'd get several months of full payments before any withholding kicks in, which could help with her immediate cash flow crisis. The my.ssa.gov account suggestion is great too. I'll help her set that up so we can monitor everything and make sure her earnings are being reported correctly. You're absolutely right that this decision is very situation-specific. The mathematical "optimization" is important, but sometimes you have to weigh that against real-world consequences. In her case, keeping her home and maintaining financial stability for 18 months might be worth the permanent reduction, especially since she plans to work past FRA anyway. Thanks for the practical advice - it's exactly the kind of insight I was hoping to find here!

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I'm also navigating this exact situation with my elderly parent! One thing our financial advisor mentioned that might be helpful: if your mom does claim early and later regrets it, she has a one-time option to withdraw her Social Security application within the first 12 months. She'd have to pay back all benefits received (without interest), but it would be like she never filed at all - wiping out the permanent reduction. This could serve as a "safety net" if her financial situation improves unexpectedly or if the earnings withholding creates more complications than anticipated. Obviously not ideal since she'd lose access to the money she already received, but it's good to know the option exists. Also, make sure she understands that only EARNED income counts toward the earnings limit - things like pension payments, 401k withdrawals, investment income, etc. don't affect her Social Security benefits at all. Sometimes people think ALL income counts when it's really just wages and self-employment earnings.

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Grace, you're definitely not too late! I went through this exact same situation two years ago - also missed applying right at my FRA due to holiday chaos. The 6-month retroactive window that others mentioned is absolutely correct. I applied in February for January benefits and received my full January payment in March along with my February payment. The key is to apply online at ssa.gov as soon as possible and clearly specify January 2025 as your desired benefit start date. There's a specific question about this during the application process. Don't worry about the phone wait times - the online application is actually faster and you can save your progress if needed. You've got this!

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Thank you Amina! This is exactly what I needed to hear from someone who went through the same thing. It's so reassuring to know you got your full January payment even though you applied later. I'm heading to ssa.gov right now to get my application started. Really appreciate everyone's helpful advice in this thread!

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As someone who works with seniors on benefits applications, I want to emphasize what others have said - you're absolutely fine! The 6-month retroactive window is standard policy, and mid-January is still very early. When you apply online at ssa.gov, there's a clear section where you select your desired benefit start date - just choose January 2025. One tip: have your tax returns from the last 2 years handy when you apply, as the system may ask about your earnings history. Also, once you submit the application, you'll get a receipt number - save that! It helps if you need to call later with questions. The whole process usually takes about 30-45 minutes online and is much more reliable than trying to get through on the phone right now.

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This is really helpful Omar! I'm new to all this and wasn't sure what documents I'd need. Having my tax returns ready will definitely speed things up. Quick question - when you mention the receipt number, is that something that gets emailed to me right away after I submit? I want to make sure I don't miss it since I know how important it is to keep track of these things with government applications.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Ravi. Dealing with Social Security paperwork while grieving is incredibly difficult, but you're asking all the right questions. Yes, both your mother and stepmother can absolutely receive survivor benefits from your father's record. This is one of those situations where Social Security actually works in favor of families - multiple survivors can collect without reducing each other's benefits. Here's what you need to know: - Your mom qualifies as a divorced spouse (15-year marriage exceeds the 10-year minimum, and she never remarried) - Your stepmom qualifies as the surviving widow (married at time of death) - Both must apply separately using Form SSA-10 - Each will need: death certificate, their marriage certificate, and your mom will also need the divorce decree Important timing consideration: Your mom at 67 can get 100% of the survivor benefit, but your stepmom at 62 would only get about 81% if she claims now. If your stepmom can wait until her full retirement age (around 66-67), she'd get the full amount. Before applying, both should check their own benefit estimates on my.ssa.gov to make sure survivor benefits would actually be higher than their own retirement benefits. The process can be frustrating with phone wait times, but don't give up. Your father worked hard for these benefits, and both women are entitled to them. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.

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Thank you, Mei. This has been really helpful. I think I have a much clearer picture now of what both my mom and stepmom need to do. The timing aspect seems really crucial - it sounds like my mom should definitely apply soon since she's already 67, but my stepmom might want to think carefully about whether she can afford to wait a few more years to get closer to that 100% benefit amount. That 19% difference between claiming at 62 vs full retirement age could really add up over time. I'm going to help both of them create those my.ssa.gov accounts this week to check their own benefits first, then we can move forward with the applications. Thanks for being so thorough and compassionate - it really means a lot during this difficult time.

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I'm deeply sorry for your loss, Ravi. Losing a parent is never easy, and having to navigate Social Security benefits during such a difficult time adds extra stress to an already overwhelming situation. The great news is that both your mother and stepmother can absolutely receive survivor benefits from your father's record simultaneously. This is actually one of the more family-friendly aspects of Social Security - multiple qualified survivors can draw benefits without reducing what the others receive. Your situation breaks down like this: - Your mom qualifies for divorced spouse survivor benefits (married 15 years, which exceeds the 10-year requirement, and never remarried) - Your stepmother qualifies as the surviving widow (married to your father at the time of his death) Both will need to apply separately using Form SSA-10 and provide the necessary documentation: death certificate, their respective marriage certificates, and your mom will also need the divorce decree. One crucial point about timing: your mom at 67 can receive the full 100% survivor benefit, but your stepmother at 62 would only receive about 81% if she claims immediately. If your stepmother can afford to wait until closer to her full retirement age (66-67), she'd get significantly more. Before either applies, I'd strongly recommend they both check their own estimated benefits on my.ssa.gov to ensure the survivor benefits would actually be higher than their own retirement benefits - SSA pays whichever is higher, but not both. Your father earned these benefits through years of hard work, and both women are absolutely entitled to them. Take care of yourself during this process.

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Thank you so much, Lucy. Your explanation really helps clarify everything. I feel like I finally understand the full picture now. The fact that both my mom and stepmom can receive benefits without affecting each other is such a relief - I was worried there might be some kind of conflict between their claims. The timing advice about my stepmom is really important. That 19% difference between claiming at 62 vs waiting until full retirement age could mean thousands of dollars over the years. I'll definitely discuss this with her - she might be able to wait a bit longer if her current financial situation allows it. I'm going to help both of them set up those my.ssa.gov accounts this weekend to check their own benefit estimates first. It's good to know that step should come before applying for survivor benefits. Thank you for the reminder that my father earned these benefits through his hard work. That perspective really helps during what's been a very difficult few weeks for our whole family. Your compassionate response means more than you know.

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