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How to report foreign earnings to Social Security under totalization agreement?

I'm trying to help my husband maximize his future Social Security benefits, but we've hit a roadblock with his earnings record. He worked in Germany for about 3 years (2016-2019), and when we checked his Social Security statement online, that period shows zero earnings. Germany has a totalization agreement with the US, so I know those earnings should count somehow toward his SS benefits calculation. Has anyone gone through this process of reporting foreign earnings under a totalization agreement? Do we need special forms? Do we contact the German pension authority first or the SSA? We have all his income statements from Germany with the amounts he paid into their system. I've tried calling SSA twice but got disconnected after waiting for over an hour each time. Any advice would be really appreciated!

One important clarification on totalization that hasn't been mentioned: the agreement doesn't mean those German earnings will show up on his SSA earnings record the way US wages would. Instead, SSA will calculate something called a "theoretical benefit" as if all combined work periods were under US Social Security, then prorate it based on the percentage of work performed in the US. This means that after all your paperwork is processed, his earnings record might still show zeros for those years, but SSA will have internal documentation about the German covered employment that will increase his benefit calculation when he applies for retirement benefits. The most important document is the German equivalent of our Social Security statement showing covered earnings and contributions to their system.

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That makes sense - no wonder I was confused about how it would show up on his record. So even after all this work, his online SSA statement might still show zeros for those years, but the internal calculation will include them when he eventually applies for benefits? That's really helpful to understand so we don't think something went wrong when we check his record later.

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through this process with my husband's UK earnings about 3 years ago. The most frustrating part was that different SSA employees gave us completely different information each time we called or visited. One told us we didn't need any special forms, another said totalization doesn't affect benefit amounts at all, and a third said we needed to contact the UK first. What finally worked was finding an SSA employee who specialized in international cases. They explained that not all offices handle totalization agreements regularly, so it's worth asking specifically for someone with international experience when you make your appointment. Also, bring every single piece of documentation you have from Germany - even if they say they don't need it all, having extra paperwork available saved us from multiple trips. The good news is once it's properly processed, the benefit increase can be significant depending on his German earnings during those years. Good luck with the process!

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Can I try working while on SSDI at 65 without losing benefits before FRA?

I've been receiving SSDI for about 4 years now (I'm 65½) and am considering testing the waters with part-time work again. My Full Retirement Age is approximately 14 months away, and I'm worried about jeopardizing my disability benefits if I try working but can't sustain it. I still maintain my professional certifications and could earn around $5,200-6,000 monthly if I worked even part-time, which would be a huge financial help with inflation these days. The problem is my condition is unpredictable - I might manage 2-3 months then need weeks to recover. Has anyone navigated returning to work on SSDI this close to FRA? Do I need to wait until I automatically convert to retirement benefits? I've heard about Trial Work Period but don't understand if it makes sense at my age. Any advice is appreciated!

good luck whatever u decide! its hard finding the balance between health and money

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Very true. And that's why the TWP and EPE were designed - to let people test their ability to work without immediately losing their safety net. It's one of the better features of the disability program, even if the implementation can sometimes be problematic.

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As someone who navigated a similar situation, I'd strongly recommend contacting a WIPA counselor before making any decisions. They can run personalized scenarios based on your specific benefits and earnings projections. One thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned - if you do start working and find you can't sustain it, there's something called "Unsuccessful Work Attempt" (UWA) provisions that can protect you if you have to stop working due to your disability within 6 months. Given your unpredictable condition, this could be relevant. Also, since you're so close to FRA, you might want to calculate whether the potential earnings during TWP months plus any reduced benefits during EPE would actually exceed just waiting 14 months. Sometimes the math doesn't work out as well as it initially appears, especially when you factor in taxes and potential impacts on other benefits.

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When does SSA send Form 1099 for 2024? Mine always arrived in December before

I've been receiving Social Security retirement benefits for 6 years now and I've always gotten my SSA-1099 form in December of each year. It's now mid-January 2025 and I still don't have mine. Has the SSA changed their schedule for sending these out? I need it for my taxes and my accountant is already asking for all my documents. Should I be worried that something's wrong with my account? Anyone else still waiting for theirs?

I've been getting Social Security disability for about 8 years now, and I've noticed they seem to send them out in batches based on your Social Security number. People with numbers ending in certain digits get theirs first. My husband and I almost always get ours about 10 days apart even though we're at the same address. Maybe your SSN just puts you in a later batch this year?

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That's interesting! I never realized they might send them in batches by SSN. That could explain why mine came earlier in previous years.

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I work at a tax preparation office and can confirm that the SSA typically mails out 1099s throughout January, with the deadline being January 31st. What many people don't realize is that the forms are often available online several days before they arrive by mail. If you're having trouble with the SSA website, try calling their main number (1-800-772-1213) early in the morning - wait times are usually shorter between 8-9 AM. Also, if you use a tax preparer, they can often help you access your online account or work with estimated numbers while you wait for the physical form to arrive.

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Will my wife get my delayed retirement Social Security survivor benefits if I die after age 70?

I'm planning my retirement and trying to maximize benefits for both me and my wife. I'm thinking of delaying my SS benefits until I turn 70 to get that 8% per year increase. My FRA is 67, and my estimated benefit at that age would be around $2,850. By waiting until 70, I should get about $3,550 monthly. My concern is what happens if I pass away after I start collecting at 70. Would my wife (who has a much lower benefit - around $1,400 at her FRA) receive survivor benefits based on my age-70 increased amount of $3,550? Or would her survivor benefit be based on what I would have received at my FRA ($2,850)? I'm trying to make sure I'm making the right decision for both of us. If she wouldn't get the delayed retirement credits I earned as part of her survivor benefits, maybe I should file earlier? Any clarity on how survivor benefits work with delayed retirement would be really helpful.

Just to summarize what's been covered for clarity: 1. If you wait until 70 to claim and then pass away, your wife would receive your full benefit amount including delayed retirement credits as her survivor benefit (assuming she's at her FRA when claiming survivor benefits) 2. This is often the optimal strategy for married couples with disparate benefit amounts 3. If she claims survivor benefits before her FRA, they will be reduced 4. She has flexibility to claim her own benefit and survivor benefit at different times 5. COLA increases that accumulate while you delay will also be included in the survivor benefit Based on what you've shared, your strategy of delaying to 70 seems very sound, especially given your family longevity history and the significant difference between your and your wife's benefit amounts.

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Thank you for this clear summary! This discussion has been incredibly helpful in confirming my approach. I feel much more confident about my decision to delay benefits until 70 now that I understand how it affects survivor benefits.

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This is such a great discussion! I'm in a similar situation and have been wrestling with the same decision. One additional consideration I'd add is to make sure you and your wife both understand the "deemed filing" rules that might apply if she claims benefits before her FRA while you're still alive. If she files for her own retirement benefit before reaching her FRA and you're already collecting, she would be required to also file for spousal benefits at the same time (if eligible), and both would be permanently reduced. This could affect the timing strategy some couples use. Also, have you considered using the Social Security calculators on ssa.gov to run different scenarios? They can help you see the break-even points for different claiming strategies. Given your family's longevity and the significant benefit difference, delaying to 70 really does seem like the smart move for maximizing lifetime household benefits.

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Can I claim ex-spouse's Social Security benefits at 60 with disability but no SSDI qualification?

Need some guidance on ex-spouse benefits and early retirement options! I'm 62 with significant health issues that forced me to stop working last year, but unfortunately I don't qualify for SSDI (not enough recent work credits). My ex-husband and I were married for 27 years before divorcing, and he's been collecting SSDI since 2007. He just turned 67 and automatically transitioned to regular Social Security retirement. I understand I'm the higher lifetime earner, but wondering if I could still claim reduced ex-spousal benefits at 62 while letting my own record grow until my Full Retirement Age (67). I also receive a pension from my former employer of $2,350/month. Would the pension offset any ex-spousal benefits? Also curious if my health issues (though not officially SSDI-qualifying) might allow for any exceptions to early filing penalties? Thanks for any insights!

Based on what you've shared, here's my recommendation: 1. Request your Social Security statement through your my Social Security account to see exactly what your benefit amounts would be at different ages. 2. Calculate your ex-spousal benefit (approximately 50% of your ex's FRA benefit amount, reduced if you claim early). 3. Compare this to your own benefit at 62 vs. FRA. 4. Consider your health outlook and financial needs. In most cases where you're the higher earner, your own benefit will exceed the ex-spousal benefit, but you need the actual numbers to make an informed decision. Given your health concerns, don't automatically assume waiting until FRA is best - run the numbers for your specific situation.

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Thank you so much. I'll request my statement and run those calculations. I think seeing the actual dollar amounts will help clarify which option makes the most sense for my situation. I really appreciate everyone's thoughtful guidance!

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Welcome to the community! I'm dealing with a somewhat similar situation and wanted to share what I've learned through my own research. One thing that might be worth exploring is whether your health conditions could potentially qualify you for a disability freeze on your Social Security earnings record, even if you don't qualify for SSDI benefits. This wouldn't give you immediate benefits, but it could prevent those non-working years from dragging down your future benefit calculation. Also, since you mentioned you're 62 now (not 60 as in your title), you do have the option to file for your own reduced benefits immediately if your financial situation requires it. The key is getting those exact benefit estimates from SSA so you can make an informed decision based on your specific circumstances rather than general rules. Good luck with everything!

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