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Anastasia Kozlov

Confusion with spousal benefits - received my SS benefit letter but no spousal excess mentioned despite deemed filing rule

I'm totally confused about this spousal benefit situation and hoping someone can explain what's happening. My husband started collecting his Social Security at 70 in March 2025 ($3,950/month). I just filed for my own benefits last month (I'm 66, born in 1959) so I'm taking them before my FRA which I know means a reduction. I got my Benefits Verification letter yesterday showing $1,450/month, which matches what my SS account showed for early filing. But here's what's confusing me - there's absolutely NO mention of any spousal benefits in the letter! My husband's FRA benefit (not his age 70 amount) is around $3,200, which is WAY more than double my benefit. So I should qualify for some spousal excess, right? Even with the reduction for filing early. I called SSA yesterday and the person said there was no record of me applying for spousal benefits at all, so they scheduled me for a phone appointment on January 16th. I got the confirmation email right away. But this morning my husband got an email from SSA about a phone appointment on January 17th that HE never requested! What's going on? We've been married for 42 years! I thought the whole 'deemed filing' rule meant SSA would automatically look at all benefits I might qualify for. I even specifically wrote in the 'Notes' section of my application that I was applying for spousal excess! I haven't worked since 2007, so my own benefit is pretty small. We both paid into Social Security our whole careers. Can anyone explain why they scheduled my husband for an appointment too? And I thought deemed filing was automatic - isn't that how it works?

Sean Flanagan

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This is a common issue with the way SSA processes spousal benefits! When you apply for retirement benefits, the deemed filing rule SHOULD apply, but sometimes the system doesn't automatically recognize and process the spousal component. Here's what's happening: SSA likely needs to verify your marriage details with both you AND your husband before processing the spousal excess amount. That's why they scheduled separate appointments - they need to speak with both of you to confirm details. The verification letter only shows your retirement benefit on your own record because that's the only part that's been processed so far. Once they verify everything, you should receive a modified amount that includes the spousal excess (reduced for early filing, as you noted). The separate appointments are completely normal in these situations.

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Thank you! That helps explain the separate appointments. Do you know if they'll backpay the spousal portion from my original filing date once they process everything? I'm worried about losing money during this processing delay.

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Zara Mirza

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i had almost the exact same thing happen!!! husband got benefits then when i applied they TOTALLY forgot to add spousal even tho i checked the box on the application. took 3 calls and them swearing up and down nothing was wrong before i finally got someone who knew what they were doing. the problem was that my record and husbands record wernt properly linked in there system. eventually got fixed but took like 2 months. and YES they did backpay from original filing date.

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Oh this is so reassuring! It's frustrating they told me nothing was wrong at first too. Good to know they'll backpay from the original date - that was really worrying me.

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NebulaNinja

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The issue you're experiencing stems from how SSA processes different benefit types. Deemed filing does apply in your situation, but it works differently than most people expect. When you file for retirement benefits, SSA automatically considers eligibility for spousal benefits, but they process them separately in their system. Regarding why your husband received an appointment notification: SSA typically needs to verify information with both spouses because they're accessing his earnings record to calculate your spousal benefits. They need his authorization since they're using his information. Your spousal excess will be calculated as approximately 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (his FRA benefit) minus your own full retirement benefit, then reduced for early filing. Since you filed at 66 and your FRA is 66 and 6 months (for someone born in 1959), you'll see about a 3.3% reduction in the spousal portion. Important: Make sure to attend both appointments, as they need information from both of you to properly process the spousal component. Once processed, your benefits will be adjusted retroactively to your filing date.

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Thank you for this detailed explanation! It makes much more sense now why both appointments are needed. I definitely won't miss either one. Is there any documentation I should have ready for these phone appointments to make sure everything goes smoothly?

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Luca Russo

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This EXACT thing happened to me last year! First they sent me just my retirement, then 3 months later they "discovered" I was entitled to spousal benefits too!!! The SSA is completely BROKEN these days. They can't even follow their own rules about deemed filing! They're supposed to automatically check for all benefits but their computer systems don't talk to each other properly. I had to fight for THREE MONTHS to get the additional spousal amount and backpay. Don't miss either of those appointments!!! The separate appointments thing is because they're stuck in the 1980s with their processing systems. Good luck!!

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Nia Wilson

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omg yes same here! took forever to get my spousal added even with deemed filing. so frustrating!

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NebulaNinja

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To address your specific question about deemed filing - yes, it absolutely applies in your situation, but there's a procedural aspect that's important to understand. Deemed filing means that when you apply for either retirement or spousal benefits, you're deemed to have filed for both. However, SSA still needs to process each benefit type, and they often handle your own retirement benefit first, followed by the spousal component. What likely happened is that your application was correctly filed under deemed filing rules, but the spousal portion is still in processing. The separate appointments suggest they need additional information or verification before finalizing the spousal calculation. After both appointments, you should receive an updated award letter showing: 1. Your reduced retirement benefit ($1,450) 2. Plus your reduced spousal excess (approximately 50% of husband's PIA minus your PIA, further reduced for early filing) All benefits will be paid retroactively to your initial filing date once processed.

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Zara Mirza

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this is exactly what happened with me! got retirement first, then spousal added later with backpay

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Thank you all for these helpful responses! I feel much better knowing this is a common issue with how SSA processes things. I'll definitely make sure both my husband and I attend our scheduled appointments. I might try calling them before then using that service someone mentioned because waiting another month is frustrating. It's ridiculous that their systems don't automatically handle this when deemed filing is supposed to be the rule. At least I know now I should eventually get the spousal excess with backpay to my filing date. I'll update after our appointments to let everyone know how it goes.

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Nia Wilson

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the appointment thing is totally normal. my wife and I went through this last year. they need info from both of you because they're checking his records too. just make sure you both answer the phone when they call!

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Thanks for confirming this is normal! Did you both end up getting the calls at the scheduled times? I'm worried about them not calling at the appointed time.

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Nia Wilson

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they called right on time for both of us. just make sure you answer even if it shows as unknown number!

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I went through something very similar when I applied for benefits last year! The deemed filing rule definitely applies to your situation, but SSA's processing can be frustratingly slow and disjointed. What you're experiencing is unfortunately pretty common - they process your own retirement benefit first, then handle the spousal component separately even though you filed for both under deemed filing. The fact that they scheduled separate appointments for both you and your husband is actually a good sign - it means they're actively working on processing your spousal benefits. They need to verify information from both of your records before they can calculate and add the spousal excess to your monthly payment. A few tips from my experience: 1) Keep all your confirmation emails for the appointments, 2) Have your marriage certificate handy if they ask for it, and 3) Don't be surprised if the process takes a few more weeks even after the appointments. The good news is that once everything is processed, you'll get backpay to your original filing date for the spousal portion. Your calculation sounds right - with your husband's higher benefit amount, you should definitely qualify for spousal excess even with the early filing reduction. Hang in there, it will get sorted out!

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