Social Security spousal benefits not mentioned in approval letter - do I need to apply separately?
I'm confused about the spousal benefit process with Social Security. Just received my retirement approval letter yesterday and there's no mention at all about ex-spouse benefits even though I think I qualify. On my application, I definitely filled out the marriage/divorce section with my ex-husband's name and SS number (we were married 12+ years). I assumed SSA would automatically calculate if I'm eligible for the higher amount based on his record, but now I'm wondering if I have to specifically request this? They never asked for marriage/divorce documents either, which makes me wonder if maybe my own benefit is already higher than half of his? But that seems unlikely since he earned significantly more than me during our working years. He started collecting at 62 about three years ago. Do I need to call SSA to specifically request the spousal calculation? Or will they automatically pay me whichever is higher? My benefit starts next month and I don't want to miss out on potentially higher payments!
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Fiona Sand
The SSA should automatically calculate whether you're better off with your own benefit or the spousal benefit (which would be up to 50% of your ex's PIA). Since you included his information on your application, they've already made this determination. If your approval letter only shows your own benefit amount, it's almost certainly because your own benefit is higher than what you'd get as a divorced spouse. A few things to understand: 1. The spousal/ex-spouse benefit maximum is 50% of his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), not 50% of what he actually receives 2. His PIA is what he would receive at his Full Retirement Age, not the reduced amount he gets for claiming at 62 3. If your own benefit is even $1 more than the spousal benefit, you'll only receive your own If you want to verify, you can call SSA and specifically ask them to confirm they considered the ex-spouse benefit in their calculation.
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Ellie Kim
•Thank you for explaining! I didn't realize the 50% would be based on his FRA amount rather than what he actually receives at 62. That makes more sense now. I'll call SSA just to double-check they considered it, but it sounds like my own benefit must be higher if they didn't mention anything in the letter.
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Mohammad Khaled
congrats on getting approved! they should have checked both automatically since u gave all that info. my sister went thru this last yr and her own benefit was higher too even tho her ex made way more $$ than her. weird how ss math works!!
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Ellie Kim
•Thanks! Yeah, the Social Security calculations are confusing. Did your sister have to do anything special to make sure they checked both options?
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Mohammad Khaled
•nope they just did it! but she did call them after to make sure & they told her they already checked both ways
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Alina Rosenthal
THEY NEVER TELL YOU EVERYTHING IN THOSE LETTERS!!! You absolutely need to CALL and specifically ASK about spousal benefits!!! My neighbor thought she was getting the right amount for 3 YEARS before finding out she should have been getting ex-spouse benefits the whole time!!! Social Security doesn't automatically give you what you deserve - YOU have to fight for it!!!
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Finnegan Gunn
•While it's always good to verify your benefits, this isn't quite accurate. SSA does automatically calculate and pay the higher of your own benefit or the spousal/divorced spouse benefit if you've provided the necessary information on your application. There are rare cases where information isn't properly processed, but generally the system works as designed. For the original poster: If you provided your ex-husband's information on your application as you mentioned, SSA should have already determined which benefit amount is higher. However, it never hurts to call and confirm this was done properly. Just be prepared for potentially long wait times when calling SSA directly.
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Alina Rosenthal
•That's EXACTLY what they want you to believe!!! The system is DESIGNED to underpay people who don't know their rights!!! Ask ANYONE who's dealt with them - they NEVER volunteer information about what you're entitled to!!
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Miguel Harvey
i think they probably already compared both and gave u the higher one. thats what they did for me last year when i applied. my ex made way more than me too but they said my own benefit was still higher cuz of something about the calculation and how long we were married. def call to check but dont stress too much til then
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Ashley Simian
My wife just went through this whole process. The thing with spousal benefits is they're reduced if you take them early, just like regular retirement. So if your ex took his at 62, and you're taking yours before your FRA, the spousal benefit might not be as good as it sounds on paper. In our case, my wife's own benefit ended up being like $40 more than the spousal benefit would've been.
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Ellie Kim
•That's interesting - I didn't realize the timing would affect it that much. I'm taking mine at my full retirement age (66 and 10 months), but he took his early at 62. I'm guessing that reduced what I might get as a spousal benefit.
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Fiona Sand
•Small clarification here - your ex taking his benefits early doesn't affect your potential spousal benefit. Your spousal benefit is based on his Primary Insurance Amount (what he would get at his FRA), not what he actually receives. However, if YOU take benefits before YOUR full retirement age, then your own spousal benefit would be reduced. Since you're waiting until your FRA, you wouldn't face that reduction.
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Finnegan Gunn
This is a common source of confusion. Here's what most likely happened: When you applied for benefits and provided your ex-spouse's information, the SSA system automatically compared two amounts: 1. Your own retirement benefit based on your work record 2. The divorced spouse benefit (up to 50% of your ex-husband's Primary Insurance Amount) The system then awards you the higher of these two amounts. If your approval letter only shows your own retirement benefit, it means your own benefit was higher than what you'd receive as a divorced spouse. You mentioned he made significantly more money, but remember that: - The divorced spouse benefit maxes out at 50% of his PIA - There's a formula for calculating benefits (90% of first portion of earnings, 32% of next portion, 15% of remainder) - Women often have lower lifetime earnings but the progressive formula helps boost the relative benefit amount This often results in a person's own benefit being higher than expected compared to a higher-earning spouse's record. For peace of mind, you can certainly call SSA to verify they considered both options.
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Ellie Kim
•Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! The formula breakdown helps me understand why my own benefit might be higher even though he earned more. I'll still call to verify, but I feel much better understanding the process now.
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Oliver Cheng
Last year when I was applying for my benefits, I had a very similar situation with my ex-spouse's record. I provided all his info on my application but got confused when my award letter only mentioned my own benefit. When I finally got through to SSA after calling for THREE DAYS (busy signals, disconnects, you name it), they confirmed they had already checked both records and my own was higher by about $187/month. Definitely worth calling to confirm, but if you included his information on your initial application, they should have already determined which benefit is higher. The fact they didn't request marriage/divorce documents is probably another sign that your own benefit is higher (they typically request those documents when they need to process a spousal benefit).
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Mohammad Khaled
•THREE DAYS?! omg that's crazy. i always see ppl complaining about the wait times but that's next level awful
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Oliver Cheng
•I know, right? I started calling right when they opened at 8am and would get busy signals for hours. When I finally got through, I'd be on hold for 1-2 hours only to get disconnected. The whole system is completely overwhelmed. The agent I finally reached told me they're severely understaffed nationwide.
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Ashley Simian
When my sister applied last year, she got really confused about this too. She was sure she'd get more from her ex's record because he was some big shot executive. Turns out her own benefit was higher because she worked consistently for 35+ years while he had some gaps in his record. The SSA looks at your highest 35 years of earnings, so consistent work history can sometimes win out over a few high-earning years.
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Ellie Kim
Thank you all for the helpful responses! I'm feeling much better now understanding that they likely did check both calculations already. I'll still call to verify (and try that Claimyr service someone mentioned since the wait times sound awful), but it makes sense that my own benefit might be higher even though my ex-husband earned more during his career. I've worked consistently for almost 40 years, so maybe that's why my own benefit ended up higher. The formula explanations really helped me understand how it all works. I'll update once I talk to SSA just in case it helps someone else with the same question!
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