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Will my Social Security survivor benefits affect my disabled 18-year-old son's SSI eligibility?

I'm trying to understand how household rules work with SSA. My son is turning 18 next month and is in the process of being approved for SSI based on his disability (Adult Disabled Child). I'm currently receiving Social Security survivor benefits after my husband passed away last year. My question is whether my son will be considered his own household for SSI purposes once he turns 18, even though he still lives with me? I'm worried that my survivor benefits might reduce his SSI payment or make him ineligible altogether. Has anyone dealt with this situation? The SSA rep I talked to gave me a confusing answer about deeming and living arrangements that I didn't fully understand.

Dylan Mitchell

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Yes, your son should be considered his own household for SSI deeming purposes once he turns 18, even if he continues living with you. At that point, your survivor benefits shouldn't directly affect his SSI eligibility or payment amount. However, if you're providing food and shelter for him, SSA might apply something called the 'one-third reduction rule' which could reduce his SSI payment. Also, make sure he's applying for Adult Disabled Child (DAC) benefits on your deceased husband's record too, not just SSI, as those might provide higher benefits.

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Thank you so much for this explanation! The SSA rep never mentioned anything about a one-third reduction rule. Can you explain what that means? And yes, we are applying for benefits on his dad's record too, but I was told those might take longer to process than the SSI application.

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Sofia Morales

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my sons on ssi and turned 18 last yr. hes considered his own household now but they reduced his check becuz i pay for evrything. they call it the value of one third rule or somethin. so he gets less than the full ssi amount

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That's exactly what I'm worried about! So even though he's his own household, they still reduced his payment because you support him? Did they ask for details about your income too, or just about what you provide for him?

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Dmitry Popov

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So sorry about your husband. I went through something similar with my daughter. It's so confusing when you're dealing with multiple benefit types while grieving.

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Thank you. Yes, it's been overwhelming trying to manage all this paperwork and understand these complicated rules while still processing our loss.

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Ava Garcia

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The situation you're describing involves two important concepts: household composition for SSI and disability benefits for Adult Disabled Children. Let me break it down: 1. For SSI purposes, your son will indeed be considered his own household once he turns 18, meaning your income won't be "deemed" to him. This is good news. 2. However, as others mentioned, if you're providing food and shelter without charging him fair market value, the "Value of One-Third Reduction" (VTR) rule applies, reducing his maximum SSI by about 1/3. 3. More importantly, it sounds like your son might qualify for what's called Childhood Disability Benefits (CDB, formerly called Disabled Adult Child or DAC benefits) on your deceased husband's record. These benefits are often higher than SSI. 4. If he qualifies for CDB, he might not need SSI at all, or might receive a small supplemental amount. The most important thing is to make sure he applies for both programs. Many SSA representatives don't explain all the options clearly.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! We have applied for both programs, but the SSA rep mainly focused on the SSI application. I didn't realize the benefits on his dad's record were called Childhood Disability Benefits - the rep kept saying Adult Disabled Child which was confusing since he's still a teenager. Do you know if the one-third reduction still applies if I charge him a small amount of rent?

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StarSailor}

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I had this EXACT situation with my daughter. Your survivors benefits WON'T affect his SSI once he's 18, BUT if you don't charge him rent, they'll reduce his SSI by 1/3!!! What I did was create a formal rental agreement charging him $300/month (you can find templates online). Make sure it's close to "fair market value" for a room in your area. He can pay from his SSI. This avoided the reduction and actually gave us both more total money to work with. The SSA paperwork is RIDICULOUS but worth doing correctly!!!

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This is such a smart approach! I had no idea we could do this. Did you have to get the rental agreement notarized or anything? And did SSA question why you suddenly started charging rent right when he turned 18?

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Miguel Silva

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Dont forget that he might stil qualify for medicade even if he gets denied ssi. My nephew got denied but stil got the medical insurence. Some states hav different rules for medicade only claims.

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Thanks for mentioning that! We're definitely concerned about his health insurance too. I'll look into our state's Medicaid rules.

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Zainab Ismail

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Thank you for suggesting this service! I've been so frustrated with the phone system. I'll check out the video and try it. You're right that I need to get clear answers directly from SSA about our specific situation.

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Dmitry Popov

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Wait I'm confused now. Is SSI the same as SSDI? My cousin gets SSDI and nobody looks at his living situation at all.

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Dylan Mitchell

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No, they're completely different programs. SSI (Supplemental Security Income) is needs-based with strict income and resource limits. SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) is based on work credits. What the original poster is asking about involves SSI (which has household/living arrangement rules) and potentially CDB benefits (Child Disability Benefits) on a parent's record, which is different from regular SSDI. That's why this situation is particularly complex - multiple programs with different rules.

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Sofia Morales

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theres also a rule about how much money he can hav in the bank with ssi. only $2000 i think. but the other benefits from his dads record dont hav that rule

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Ava Garcia

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You're right. SSI has a $2,000 resource limit for individuals, while Childhood Disability Benefits (CDB) on the father's record don't have asset limits. This is another important advantage of the CDB benefits. Additionally, the OP should look into ABLE accounts, which allow disabled individuals to save more than $2,000 without affecting SSI eligibility.

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Thank you all so much for this helpful information! I feel much better prepared for his upcoming birthday now. I'm going to: 1) Make sure both the SSI and the Childhood Disability Benefits applications are being processed, 2) Create a rental agreement to avoid the one-third reduction rule, 3) Look into ABLE accounts for his savings, and 4) Use Claimyr to actually get through to SSA and confirm all of this information. This has been incredibly helpful!

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Ava Garcia

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Sounds like you have a great plan! One last tip - keep detailed notes of every conversation with SSA, including the date, representative's name, and what was discussed. If there's ever confusion later (which happens often), having these notes can be invaluable. Best of luck to you and your son!

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