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Dylan Hughes

Social Security benefits for disabled adult child - will switching from SSI to SSDI reduce her benefits when I claim at 70?

I'm planning to delay claiming my Social Security retirement until 70 to maximize my monthly benefit (only worked part-time for many years while caring for family). My daughter (38) is disabled from birth and currently receives SSI while living in a group home. Her SSI is about $943/month plus she gets some state supplement. I understand that when I start collecting retirement, she'll need to switch from SSI to SSDI as a Disabled Adult Child (DAC) on my record. But I'm worried because I calculated her DAC benefit would only be about $750/month (50% of my benefit). That's significantly less than what she receives now. Does anyone know what happens in this situation? Will she lose money when I claim? Can she stay on SSI instead? The SSA representative I spoke with seemed confused when I asked about this scenario. I'm trying to plan ahead since I turn 69 next month.

My son was in similar situation last year. When i retired he HAD to move to SSDI from the SSI. They dont give you a choice its automatic when parent claims SS. His payment went down about $200 a month to but then the state added more of there supplement to make up some of it. you should check with your state disability office!!

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Thanks for sharing your experience. Did your son live in a group home too? I'm wondering if her housing situation affects anything. Did your state automatically increase the supplement or did you have to apply for it?

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I work with families in this exact situation. Here's what you need to understand: 1. When you claim retirement benefits, your daughter will be required to file for Disabled Adult Child (DAC) benefits on your record. 2. If the DAC amount is less than her current SSI, she may qualify for continuing SSI payments to make up the difference. This is called "concurrent benefits" - receiving both a reduced SSI amount plus the DAC benefits. 3. The Medicaid coverage she likely has through SSI can continue under special protected status even if her SSI payment reduces to $0, through what's called "1619(b)" status. 4. The exact financial impact depends on your state's rules for supplemental payments and group home regulations. I suggest requesting a Benefits Planning Query (BPQY) from SSA, which will show all benefits she's eligible for, then consulting with a benefits planner at your local WIPA (Work Incentives Planning and Assistance) program. They provide free counseling for situations exactly like this.

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Thank you so much for this detailed information! I had no idea about concurrent benefits or the 1619(b) status for Medicaid. This is really helpful. I'll definitely request that BPQY report and look into the WIPA program. Do you know if her group home placement could be affected by this change?

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when my brother went from SSI to SSDI his group home took MORE of his money!! check the contract with your daughters home because they might just raise her "contribution" if her income source changes. we were so mad but nothing we could do.

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This is an important point. Group homes often have different fee structures based on benefit type. Some charge a percentage of income rather than a fixed amount, so if benefit sources change, the resident contribution can change as well. I recommend reviewing your daughter's residential agreement carefully.

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I HATE how SSA makes these rules so confusing!!!! My daughter has been on SSI for 20 years and nobody ever explained all these complicated rules about what happens when I retire. They just expect us to figure it all out ourselves while they keep changing the rules. And every time I call I get a different answer from those people. Its NOT FAIR to our disabled kids!!!!!

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Same boat here. Called SSA 5 times about my son's benefits when I retired and got 5 different answers! So frustrating when you're just trying to do the right thing.

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To directly address your question: Your daughter won't necessarily lose money in this transition. When a person transitions from SSI to DAC benefits, they can receive what's called "SSI continuance" if the DAC benefit amount is lower than their prior SSI. Additionally, most states provide supplemental payments to individuals in group homes. Critically, this transition provides a significant advantage: DAC benefits aren't subject to the same strict income and resource limits as SSI. This means your daughter may be able to have more savings or receive additional support without jeopardizing benefits. While the transition happens automatically, you should proactively submit an SSI continuance request when you file for your retirement benefits. Document everything carefully, as this transition can sometimes create administrative confusion.

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This is such a relief to hear! I was really worried she'd lose money each month. I didn't know about the benefit of having fewer restrictions on savings - that could actually be very helpful for her future. I'll definitely submit that continuance request and keep detailed records. Thank you!

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wait do u mean SSDI or DAC? my cousins disabled and gets SSDI not DAC? is that the same thing or diffrent?

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They're related but different. DAC (Disabled Adult Child) benefits are a specific type of SSDI that's available to adults who became disabled before age 22 and who have a parent receiving Social Security retirement or disability benefits. Regular SSDI is based on a person's own work history, while DAC benefits are based on the parent's work record. DAC is sometimes called CDB (Childhood Disability Benefits) in newer SSA materials.

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one other thing no one mentioned is your daughter might qualify for the ABLE account? my son has one and it lets him save money without effecting his benefits. you can put up to $18,000 a year in it i think. look it up :-) helped us alot

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That's an excellent suggestion. ABLE accounts allow eligible individuals with disabilities to save up to $19,000 annually without affecting benefit eligibility. Total account balances can grow to $100,000 without impacting SSI benefits, and Medicaid eligibility continues regardless of account balance. This is especially valuable for someone transitioning from SSI to DAC benefits, as it provides financial flexibility.

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Thank you everyone for the helpful advice! I've learned so much - I'm going to: 1. Request the BPQY report from SSA 2. Check with our state about supplemental payments 3. Review her group home contract for payment structure 4. Submit an SSI continuance request when I file for retirement 5. Look into setting up an ABLE account for her I'm so relieved to hear she can potentially keep her current benefit level with concurrent benefits, and that her Medicaid should be protected. This community has been incredibly helpful!

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You're so welcome! It sounds like you have a solid plan now. One small addition - when you contact your state disability office about supplemental payments, ask specifically about "Special Needs Assistance" or "State Supplementary Payment" programs for group home residents. Some states have different programs with different names, and you want to make sure you're getting the maximum available support. Also, definitely get everything in writing when you speak with SSA - it helps avoid confusion later. Wishing you and your daughter the best with this transition!

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Great point about asking for those specific program names! I've learned from this thread that each state can have different terminology for the same types of assistance. I'll make sure to ask about all possible supplemental programs when I call. And yes, definitely getting everything in writing - I've already started a file to keep track of all the different pieces of information. Thanks for the encouragement!

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Just wanted to add one more resource that might help - the National Disability Rights Network has state-by-state guides for benefit transitions like this. They often have specific information about how DAC/SSI transitions work in each state, including which supplemental programs are available. You can find your state's Protection & Advocacy organization through their website, and they provide free legal assistance for disability benefit issues. They helped my family navigate a similar transition and made sure we didn't miss any available programs. Given how complex these rules are and how much money is at stake, it might be worth reaching out to them too, especially since you're dealing with group home payments as well.

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This is incredibly helpful information! I had no idea about the National Disability Rights Network or that there were state-specific guides for these transitions. Given all the different moving parts (group home payments, state supplements, concurrent benefits), having legal assistance sounds like a really smart idea. I'm going to look up our state's Protection & Advocacy organization right away. It's reassuring to know there are free resources available to help navigate this complexity. Thank you for sharing this resource - it could make a huge difference in making sure we get everything set up correctly!

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I went through this exact situation with my disabled son two years ago when I filed for retirement at 70. Here's what actually happened in our case: When I claimed my retirement benefits, SSA automatically filed for DAC benefits on my son's behalf. His DAC amount was lower than his SSI ($680 vs $914), but he was able to keep receiving SSI to make up the difference through concurrent benefits. His total monthly income actually stayed almost the same. The big surprise was that his Medicaid continued without interruption, which was our biggest concern. And like others mentioned, not having the strict SSI asset limits has been really helpful - he can now have a small emergency fund without worrying about losing benefits. One thing I'd strongly recommend: when you file for your retirement benefits, specifically ask the SSA representative to note in your file that your daughter should be evaluated for concurrent SSI/DAC benefits. Don't assume they'll automatically do this - be proactive about it. Also, keep copies of everything and follow up if you don't hear back within 30 days. The transition took about 3 months to fully process, but there was no gap in her benefits during that time. Hope this helps ease your concerns!

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This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I needed to hear! Thank you so much for sharing the details of what actually happened with your son. It's reassuring to know that the transition went smoothly and his total income stayed about the same. I'm especially relieved to hear that Medicaid continued without interruption - that was one of my biggest worries. Your advice about being proactive and specifically asking SSA to note the concurrent benefits evaluation is really valuable. I'll definitely make sure to emphasize that when I file and will keep detailed records of everything. The 3-month processing time is good to know too - at least there shouldn't be any gap in benefits during the transition. It sounds like this change might actually be beneficial in the long run with the asset limit relief. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience - it's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who's been through this exact situation!

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I'm a caseworker at a disability advocacy center and see these transitions regularly. One crucial detail that hasn't been mentioned yet: make sure to request a "protective filing date" when you first contact SSA about your retirement benefits. This ensures your daughter's DAC application is backdated to when you first inquired, which can prevent any potential benefit gaps or overpayment issues. Also, since she's in a group home, verify with the facility administrator whether they participate in any "representative payee" arrangements for residents receiving different benefit types. Some group homes have specific procedures for handling the SSI-to-DAC transition that can smooth the process. The good news is that in most states, the total benefit package (including state supplements and concurrent SSI) for group home residents actually provides better long-term stability than SSI alone. The reduced restrictions on assets and income can be particularly beneficial if your daughter ever needs additional support services or equipment. Document everything and don't hesitate to escalate to a supervisor if you encounter confusion from SSA staff - this is a well-established process even though individual representatives may not be familiar with it.

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This is such valuable professional insight! The protective filing date tip is something I never would have thought to ask about - that could be really important to avoid any complications. I'll definitely request that when I first contact SSA about my retirement benefits. I hadn't considered that the group home might have specific procedures for handling this type of benefit transition. I'll reach out to her facility administrator to understand their process and see if they work with representative payees for different benefit types. It's encouraging to hear from your professional experience that the long-term outcome is usually better stability. The asset and income flexibility could really help if she ever needs additional support or equipment in the future. Your point about escalating to a supervisor if needed is also really helpful - I was worried about being "difficult" but it sounds like this is common enough that supervisors should be familiar with the process. Thank you for sharing your expertise - having guidance from someone who sees these transitions regularly gives me much more confidence about moving forward!

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I went through something similar with my nephew who's been on SSI since age 18 and is now 32. When my sister filed for retirement last year, we were terrified about the transition but it ended up working out better than expected. The key thing that helped us was getting connected with a SOAR (SSI/SSDI Outreach, Access, and Recovery) specialist through our local community mental health center. They knew exactly how to navigate the DAC/SSI concurrent benefits process and helped us submit all the right paperwork at the right time. One thing I'd add to all the great advice here - if your daughter receives any employment services or day programs through your state's developmental disabilities agency, make sure they're aware of the upcoming benefit change. Sometimes these programs have waiting lists or eligibility requirements that can be affected by benefit type changes, and you want to get ahead of any potential issues. Also, the transition actually opened up some opportunities we didn't expect - he was able to start a small part-time job without the strict SSI earnings penalties, and we set up an ABLE account like others mentioned. The whole process took about 4 months from start to finish, but his benefits never stopped during the transition. Sounds like you're getting excellent advice here and have a solid plan. These transitions are scary but the system does have protections in place for situations exactly like yours!

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Thank you for sharing your nephew's experience! It's so helpful to hear another positive outcome. I hadn't heard of SOAR specialists before, but that sounds like exactly the kind of expert guidance we could use. I'll definitely look into whether our local community mental health center has someone like that available. Your point about notifying her day program is really important - she does attend a vocational program through our state's developmental disabilities agency, and I hadn't thought about how the benefit change might affect her eligibility there. I'll contact them right away to make sure we don't run into any unexpected issues. The possibility of her being able to work part-time in the future without the strict SSI penalties is actually really exciting! She's always wanted to try working but we've been afraid it would jeopardize her benefits. It sounds like this transition might actually open up some new opportunities we hadn't considered. Thanks for the reassurance that the protections are in place - hearing all these real experiences from people who've been through it successfully is giving me so much more confidence about this whole process!

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I'm just starting to learn about all this - my mom is 67 and thinking about when to claim her Social Security, and I'm her disabled adult child (been on SSI since I was 22, now 35). Reading through all these responses has been incredibly eye-opening! I had no idea there were so many programs and protections I might be eligible for. A few questions if anyone has experience: Does the timing of when your parent claims make a difference for the DAC benefits? Like if my mom waits until 70 vs claiming at full retirement age? Also, I work very part-time (about 10 hours a week) under the SSI limits - would transitioning to DAC benefits change how much I can work? This thread has given me so much hope that this transition might actually be beneficial rather than scary. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences - it's making me feel like I should encourage my mom to start planning for this instead of worrying about it!

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Great questions! Yes, timing can make a difference for DAC benefits. If your mom waits until 70, her benefit will be higher due to delayed retirement credits, and your DAC benefit (which is typically 50% of her primary insurance amount) could potentially be higher too. However, you'll want to weigh that against continuing to receive SSI in the meantime. Regarding work - this is actually one of the big advantages of DAC benefits! The work incentives are much more generous than SSI. With DAC, you can earn up to substantial gainful activity levels (currently around $1,550/month for 2024) before benefits are affected, compared to SSI's much stricter $85 substantial gainful activity threshold. Plus, DAC has trial work periods and extended periods of eligibility that SSI doesn't offer. I'd definitely encourage you and your mom to request that Benefits Planning Query (BPQY) report mentioned earlier in this thread. It will show exactly what your benefits would look like under different scenarios. Also consider reaching out to a WIPA counselor - they can run projections for different timing options and help you both make the best decision. The transition really can be beneficial, especially for someone like you who's interested in working more!

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This is such valuable information about the work benefits! I'm in a similar situation with my adult daughter, and I've been worried about how the transition might affect her small part-time income. The fact that DAC benefits allow for much higher earnings ($1,550/month vs $85) is incredible - that could really open up opportunities for more meaningful employment. The trial work periods sound like an amazing safety net too. I'm definitely going to look into getting that BPQY report and finding a WIPA counselor to run different scenarios. It's amazing how this thread has turned my anxiety about this transition into genuine excitement about the possibilities it might create for our loved ones!

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As someone who transitioned from SSI to DAC benefits last year when my parent claimed at 70, I wanted to share my personal experience to add to all this helpful information. The transition was actually much smoother than I expected, and I'm now in a better position financially and personally. My DAC benefit amount was initially lower than my SSI ($812 vs $943), but with concurrent benefits, my total monthly income ended up being almost identical. The real game-changer has been the relaxed asset limits - I was finally able to start saving money without constantly worrying about hitting the $2,000 SSI limit. I opened an ABLE account like others mentioned and now have a small emergency fund for the first time in my adult life. The work opportunity changes have been incredible too. I went from being terrified to work more than a few hours because of SSI's earnings limits to now working 20+ hours a week under the much more generous DAC substantial gainful activity thresholds. Having that financial stability and purpose has been life-changing. My advice: don't let fear of the unknown keep you from pursuing this transition. Yes, it's complex and the paperwork takes time, but the long-term benefits are so worth it. Get that BPQY report, work with a benefits counselor, and document everything, but don't be afraid to move forward. This community's advice has been spot-on - there are real protections in place and the outcome is often much better than people expect!

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Thank you so much for sharing your personal experience with the transition! It's incredibly encouraging to hear from someone who actually went through it successfully. The fact that you're now able to work 20+ hours a week and have real savings for the first time is amazing - those are exactly the kinds of opportunities I was hoping this change might create for my daughter. Your point about not letting fear hold us back really resonates with me. Reading everyone's experiences in this thread has completely shifted my perspective from anxiety to cautious optimism. It sounds like the protections really do work and the long-term benefits are substantial. I'm definitely moving forward with getting the BPQY report and connecting with a benefits counselor. Having heard from so many people who've had positive outcomes gives me the confidence to pursue this transition proactively rather than dreading it. Thank you for taking the time to share your story - it means so much to hear from someone living the reality of how much better things can be on the other side!

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What an incredibly informative and supportive thread! As someone new to this community, I'm amazed by how much practical knowledge and real-world experience has been shared here. Dylan, your original question really struck a chord - it's clear this is a situation many families face but don't fully understand until they're in the middle of it. I'm particularly grateful for all the specific resources mentioned: BPQY reports, WIPA counselors, SOAR specialists, the National Disability Rights Network, and ABLE accounts. Having this roadmap of exactly where to go for help makes what seemed like an impossible maze much more manageable. The personal stories from those who've actually been through the SSI to DAC transition are invaluable. It's reassuring to see that while the process can be complex, the protections really do work and many people end up in better situations with more opportunities for work and savings. For anyone else reading this who might be in a similar situation - bookmark this thread! The collective wisdom here about protective filing dates, concurrent benefits, state supplements, and advocating with SSA representatives could save families months of confusion and potentially thousands of dollars. This is exactly the kind of community support that makes navigating these complex systems possible.

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I completely agree - this thread has been absolutely incredible! As someone who's also new to navigating these complex benefit systems, I'm blown away by how generous everyone has been with sharing their knowledge and personal experiences. The way this community has rallied around Dylan's question shows what online support can be at its best. I'm taking notes on all the resources mentioned too. It's amazing how many programs and protections exist that most people (including SSA representatives sometimes) don't seem to know about. Having this comprehensive list of where to go for help - from BPQY reports to WIPA counselors to Protection & Advocacy organizations - is like having a roadmap through what can feel like an impossible system. The personal success stories really make all the difference. Reading about Connor's experience going from fear about working to now working 20+ hours a week, or hearing how multiple families navigated the transition successfully, transforms this from a scary unknown into a manageable process with real benefits on the other side. This thread should definitely be pinned or saved somehow - it's a masterclass in how to approach SSI to DAC transitions with confidence and the right support team in place!

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