Will applying for Social Security widow benefits affect my disabled daughter's SSDI survivor benefits?
I'm trying to figure out a complicated Social Security situation for my family. My 28-year-old daughter receives SSDI survivor benefits based on her late father's work record. She's been disabled since childhood and gets about $1,875 monthly. I'm turning 60 next month and considering applying for widow benefits, but I'm worried this might reduce my daughter's benefits somehow. Does anyone know if there's some kind of family maximum that would kick in if I start receiving benefits too? I really don't want to mess up her payments since she depends on that income completely. I called Social Security twice but got different answers each time, and now I'm confused and anxious about making the wrong move.
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Nalani Liu
You're asking a great question about survivor benefits coordination. The good news is that your applying for widow's benefits at age 60 will NOT affect your adult disabled daughter's SSDI survivor benefits. Her benefits are based on her father's earnings record, and they're completely separate from your widow's benefits. There's no family maximum that would apply across both of your benefits in this specific situation. However, be aware that taking widow benefits at 60 means you'll get a reduced amount (about 71.5% of your late husband's full benefit). You might want to consider whether it makes financial sense to take them now or wait until your Full Retirement Age (FRA) to get 100% of the survivor benefit.
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Thais Soares
•Thank you SO much for explaining this! I've been so worried about messing up her benefits. So there's really no connection between what I receive and what she gets? That's such a relief. About the reduced amount - I understand I'd get less by claiming at 60, but I'm dealing with some health issues and could really use the extra income now. Do you happen to know if I can switch to my own retirement benefit later if it would be higher? Sorry for all the questions, but you seem really knowledgeable.
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Axel Bourke
When I tried to get widow benefits last year, they told me there WAS a family maximum that affected everyone getting benefits on the same record!!! This system is so confusing and NOBODY gives the same answer twice. I spent 3 HOURS on hold only to be told something completely different from what I read online. The SSA website says there IS a maximum family benefit that applies to SSDI. So I don't know who to believe anymore. Has anyone else dealt with this family maximum thing with survivor benefits specifically??
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Nalani Liu
•You're right that there is a Family Maximum Benefit (FMB), but it works differently for different benefit types. For SSDI, there is indeed a family maximum (usually 150-180% of the worker's benefit). However, in this specific situation, we're talking about two different beneficiaries (mother and adult disabled daughter) potentially receiving different types of benefits (widow's benefits for mom, disabled adult child benefits for daughter). The key distinction is that once the adult disabled daughter is established on her own benefit payment stream, the mother's application for widow benefits won't trigger a recalculation or reduction. This is especially true since the daughter is an adult, not a minor child.
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Aidan Percy
my sister has disabled son gets survivors from his dad too. when she got her own SS at 62 it didnt change his payment any. i think ur fine
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Thais Soares
•Thanks for sharing about your sister's experience. That's reassuring to hear! I think our situations sound pretty similar.
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Fernanda Marquez
I worked at Social Security for 15 years before retiring, and I can confirm that your daughter's SSDI survivor benefits won't be affected by your widow's benefits. These are calculated separately. However, there's something important you should know: if you're considering applying at age 60, you might want to check if you qualify for disabled widow benefits instead of regular widow benefits. If you have medical issues that prevent you from working, the disabled widow benefit doesn't have the same reduction penalty. You'd need to meet disability criteria, but it might be worth exploring if your health issues are significant. Feel free to ask if you have any other questions about how these benefits interact.
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Norman Fraser
•wait i thought the disabled widow benefit still gets reduced if taken before FRA? is that different from regular widow benefits? this stuff is so confusing lol
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Kendrick Webb
I went through something similar with my disabled son after my husband passed. Waiting on hold with Social Security was impossible - I kept getting disconnected after 2+ hours of waiting. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual SSA agent in about 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent I spoke with confirmed that widow benefits and adult disabled child benefits are calculated separately, so one doesn't reduce the other. It was worth getting a definitive answer directly from SSA rather than stressing about potentially messing up my son's benefits.
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Thais Soares
•I've never heard of this service before! I'll definitely check this out. Getting disconnected after waiting for hours is so frustrating. Thanks for sharing this tip - I'd much rather talk to an actual agent than keep getting conflicting information.
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Norman Fraser
my aunt gets ssdi and her mom (my grandma) gets ssi and they had some family max thing come up so maybe its different for ssi vs ssdi? not sure but maybe thats why people are getting different answers anyway hope it works out for u and ur daughter!!
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Fernanda Marquez
•You've hit on a good point about why people get confused. SSI (Supplemental Security Income) and SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) have completely different rules. SSI is needs-based, and household income/living arrangements can affect payment amounts. SSDI is based on work credits. In this case, the original poster is asking about survivor benefits (based on a deceased worker's record) and widow benefits. These are separate determinations, which is why they won't impact each other.
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Hattie Carson
I just wanted to mention that when dealing with Social Security, always get the name of the person you speak with and ask them to make notes in your file about what they told you. I've had agents tell me completely contradictory things on different calls, and without documentation, it becomes your word against theirs. Regarding your actual question, I believe the others are correct that your application won't affect your daughter's benefits. The family maximum typically applies when there are multiple beneficiaries drawing from the same type of benefit on one person's record (like multiple children). Your widow benefit and her survivor SSDI are different categories.
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Thais Soares
•That's really good advice about getting names and asking for notes in my file. I'll definitely do that from now on. Thank you!
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Axel Bourke
OK but what about the benefit amount?? When my friend applied for widow benefits it was only like $950 a month!!! Is that even worth applying for?? No one has mentioned how much the OP might actually GET.
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Nalani Liu
•Good point about the benefit amount. Widow's benefits at age 60 are 71.5% of what the late spouse would receive at their full retirement age. So if the deceased spouse's primary insurance amount (PIA) was $2,000, the widow's benefit at age 60 would be about $1,430. The exact amount depends on the deceased spouse's earnings history. The OP would need to contact SSA to get an exact figure for her situation. Some people find it's worth taking even a reduced amount early, while others prefer to wait for a larger benefit. It's a very personal financial decision.
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Thais Soares
Thank you all so much for your helpful responses! I feel much more confident now that applying for my widow benefits won't impact my daughter's SSDI survivor benefits. I'm going to look into both regular widow benefits and possibly the disabled widow option that was mentioned. I'll definitely try that Claimyr service to connect with SSA faster - spending hours on hold only to get disconnected has been so frustrating. And I'll be sure to get the agent's name and ask them to document our conversation in my file. This community has been incredibly helpful! It's such a relief to understand how these benefits work together.
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