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How owning an S corp rental property affects Social Security earnings limit after retirement?

I retired early last year at 63 and started collecting Social Security. I own an S corporation that holds a couple rental properties. The properties bring in about $2,600/month in income but I'm not actively managing them - I hired a property manager who handles everything. I'm getting confused about how this rental income through my S corp might count toward the yearly earnings limit ($21,240 for 2025 I think?). My tax guy is on vacation and I've been reading contradicting info online. Some places say S corp distributions don't count toward the earnings test, but others mention something about "substantial services" being the determining factor? Anybody gone through this with Social Security? Really worried about accidentally triggering benefit reductions!

CyberSamurai

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This is a good question that trips up a lot of people. With an S corporation, how the income affects your Social Security earnings limit depends on how the money flows to you. The key points: 1. Passive income (like rental income) generally doesn't count toward the earnings test 2. S corporation distributions/profits passing through to your personal return don't count as "earnings" for the SSA earnings test 3. However, if you're paying yourself a salary from the S corp, that DOES count 4. The "substantial services" test applies to whether you're actually WORKING in the business If you're truly passive and the property manager handles everything, and you're only receiving distributions (not salary), you should be fine. But document everything in case SSA questions it.

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Andre Dubois

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Thanks so much! I do take a small salary from the S corp ($800/month) because my accountant said I needed to take "reasonable compensation" for tax purposes. So I guess that part would count toward the limit? The rest comes as distributions quarterly.

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Zoe Alexopoulos

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I went through this EXACT situation last year! The salary portion definitely counts against your earnings limit, but the distributions don't. Keep really detailed records showing your limited involvement. My experience: SSA initially counted ALL my S corp income and reduced my benefits, but after I appealed with documentation showing the property manager handles daily operations, they reversed it and only counted my $12K salary. The key is proving you're not providing "substantial services" to the business. Document EVERYTHING!

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Jamal Carter

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thats good to know! did you need a lawyer to help with your appeal or could you do it yourself? my brother has rental properties too in his retirement

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Mei Liu

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My cousin says all rental property income affects benefits!!!! I thought ANY income counted. This is so confusing!!! Why does social security make everything SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND.

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CyberSamurai

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Your cousin is incorrect. The Social Security earnings test only counts EARNED income - meaning income from actually working. Rental income itself is considered unearned/passive income. However, if you're actively managing properties and taking a salary for that work, that salary portion would count. But standard rental income flowing through on your tax return doesn't count against the earnings limit.

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Liam O'Donnell

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I spend HOURS trying to get through to SSA to ask this exact question last year when I retired! Kept getting disconnected or waiting forever. Finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual SSA agent in about 20 minutes instead of waiting for hours. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Anyway, the agent confirmed what others are saying - only the salary portion counts against earnings test, not the S corp distributions. But get this IN WRITING because different SSA reps sometimes give different answers! I requested a formal written determination just to be safe.

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Andre Dubois

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Thank you - I'll check out that Claimyr service. I've been trying to reach someone at SSA for weeks! Getting something in writing sounds like a smart approach. Did you just ask them directly for a written determination?

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Amara Nwosu

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When I retired SSA counted my s-corp money and reduced my benefit! Make sure you tell them theres a property manager. I didnt and they assumed I was working.

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Zoe Alexopoulos

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This is a really important point. The burden of proof falls on YOU to demonstrate that you're not providing substantial services. Did you appeal their decision? You might be able to get retroactive payments if you can now prove you weren't actively working in the business.

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AstroExplorer

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I'm going through a similar situation with my Social Security benefits and S-corporation. The most important distinction is understanding what constitutes "substantial services" according to SSA. Based on my research and conversations with SSA, they consider factors like: - Hours you personally spend on business activities - The nature of your involvement - Whether your services are essential to operation In your case, having a documented relationship with a property management company is extremely helpful in proving your passive role. Make sure your property management agreement clearly outlines all their responsibilities. Also important: Report your salary from the S-corp on your Annual Earnings Report to SSA (you can do this through your my Social Security account online). Being proactive about reporting prevents unexpected benefit reductions later. The $800/month salary ($9,600 annually) is well below the 2025 limit of $21,240, so you should be fine.

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Andre Dubois

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This is incredibly helpful information. I'm relieved to hear my salary is under the limit. I'll definitely report it proactively. Should I also send SSA a copy of my property management contract to have on file, or just keep that ready in case they ask questions?

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Jamal Carter

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my accountant told me that the ssi people only look at the w2 from your corporation not the k1 part so its just the salary that matters for thr earnings test so your probably fine with just 800 a month

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AstroExplorer

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Your accountant is correct. SSA primarily looks at W-2 income (wages) for the earnings test, not the pass-through income reported on Schedule K-1. However, it's worth noting that "Social Security people" and "SSI people" are different programs - this earnings test applies to retirement benefits (RSDI/RIB), not SSI which has different income rules altogether.

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Mei Liu

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This whole system is RIDICULOUS!!! Why should you be penalized for being SMART enough to have investment income??? The government just wants to TAKE YOUR MONEY and make it IMPOSSIBLE to understand the rules. My brother lost THOUSANDS because of this earnings limit garbage.

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Zoe Alexopoulos

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The earnings limit isn't meant to be a penalty - it's based on the original concept that Social Security replaces lost wages when you retire. If you're still working and earning wages, you're not fully "retired" in their view. Investment income isn't penalized because it's not wages replacing your work. The earnings limit also goes away once you reach your Full Retirement Age (66-67 depending on birth year). After that, you can earn unlimited wages with no reduction in benefits.

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Andre Dubois

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Thanks everyone for the great information! To summarize what I've learned: 1. Only my $800/month salary counts toward the earnings limit, not the S corp distributions 2. I should proactively report this on my Annual Earnings Report to SSA 3. I need to keep documentation proving I'm not actively managing the properties 4. Getting something in writing from SSA about my specific situation is a good idea I'm going to try that Claimyr service to actually reach a human at SSA and request a written determination. Will also make sure my property management agreement clearly shows they handle everything. Feel much better about this now!

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AstroExplorer

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Great summary! One additional tip: When you speak with SSA, specifically ask about the "material participation" standard as it relates to your situation. This is the formal term they use when evaluating business involvement, and using their terminology helps ensure you get the most accurate information. Good luck!

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